Kay

“Or maybe “the presence of men” makes the situation ungodly, because only with their presence we have “church”?”

“They do not receive all the gifts that women do and if they are forbidden to receive part of God’s gifts, then is there something wrong with them?”

Well, what else would we expect if we begin separating parts of the The Body of Christ from one another? Uhh errr umm…doesn’t 1 Cor. 12 warn of the consequences of this very thing?
“The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!”
The Body is the Church.