gabby

I just found this website and have been reading extensively. This subject is of great interest to me, as I have seen abuse and then went to Church to hear messages of submission, which only served to promote the soul murder I already felt.

Thank you for making this blog a wonderful safe place to come to.

I have found that it makes no difference whether you sit in a conservative Christian congregation or any other congregation that puts an emphasis on gender roles in the Church and home, you will hear the same submission messages.

In reading about this Man John Piper, I have gotten the feeling that some here think this Man just doesn’t understand about the deeper issues of abuse, and therefore the odd answers to questions that were asked him. It is my opinion, that if one is considered to be intelligent and has empathy for another person’s feelings, that one wouldn’t have to understand the deeper issues of abuse, to know if someone is being abusive. Would Mr Piper speak to or treat his Wife in such a manner?, and If not, then why not?
Also, I believe that if a Pastor or a Church is told of criminal abusive behavior going on, then they should have a plan ahead of time to decide what they should do. Criminal behavior punishable by law, is a serious thing. In the end, Men should be told that criminal abuse will not be tolerated and hushed up and hid.

They should be told that Wives will not be told to go home and get in submission and that he hasn’t the right to expect her to submit.
Sometimes you just have to pull the kid gloves off, because like others have said, the abuser does not understand gentle reproach. I am tired of the Church being a haven for Men who have ideas of Male dominance and authority, and if you really get to the heart of the matter, these Men do not have a high opinion of Women as a whole.