Dave

Great suggestion Frank, I too concluded that 1 Tim 2 was all Mike had to hold onto (see my comment on his blog).

The only prob with the argument you suggest is that he will probably go where Grudem goes (concerning Ephesians 5:21) and say “one another” does not mean “everyone to everyone”, but “some to others”. In other words, Colossians more accurately says “some should teach and admonish others”!

Grudem, naturally, is wrong! My contribution to our Blog Conference starting in a few days deals with this if you are interested in checking it out (how was that for a plug!). I cannot speak so much for Mike, but it appears that some comps you cannot tie down with logic, because logic is not what is of greatest importance, maintaining the hierarchy is 🙁