Dave

Frank, I did a quick check and I can find consistant and fundamental differences between submit and subordinate. Submission has to do with the will of the person submitting, while subordination has to do with hierarchy. Subordination works on the principle of a natural order, strength, authority and power etc.

It seems to me that this is fundamental stuff is we are going to understand what happens in the Trinity. I cannot see any evidence for subordination of the Son, only submission. Obviously this then comes back to how comps view hierarchy in the church and marriage. God created us all equal, and so we, like the Trinity can submit to each other. It is actually impossible for us to be subordinate to one another (in my understanding), because “order” does not allow for you to be “below” me while I am also “below” you. Can’t happen! I would be interested in knowing your conclusions!

Cheryl and Karen, as one of the blokes, it is a joy.