Dave

Hi TL…you said,

“In Grk. hupotassomai (passive) has nothing to do with yielding to authority. Rather it is about arranging oneself under another. Whether that arranging is done voluntarily depends upon whether one is doing so at one’s own discretion (passive) or at the requests of another. Even if at the request of another, it does not indicate the authority of the other.”

I was thinking about this and was thinking, the whole thing can get very fuzzy. For starters, if we submit, and it is not voluntary submission, we might be submitting externally in action, but have we submitted internally – in our hearts? Also, if we are “forced” to submit, then does that not imply that the one who is forcing us is more powerful, has more athority etc…which surely leads us back to subordination!

I guess I am just wondering, can submission really be something that is not done passively – at our own discretion?

Frank, I have Webster’s, but I also used other dictionaries when I formulated my understanding of submission and subordination.