Lin

Wow, I am late to this discussion. But a few things after skimming over the last thread.

Mark made a comment about egalitarianism sliding into homosexuality. This is a huge strawman. For one reason, historical fact teaches different. It was the partriarchal cultures that were so accepting of homosexuality. It was normal in patriarchal cultures! Women were viewed as property and for child bearing reasons. They had almost no education and were homebound. It was quite normal for men to take on male partners. Reading about Roman and Greek cultures is a wake up call when folks use this strawman.

I just wanted to mention that the definition of teshuqua in Gen 3:16 is really a problem for most modern translations. And most comps translate Gen 3:16 as Eve being punished for ‘usurping Adams leadership’. That is not true and a horrible disservice to the Body of Christ to teach such a Blasphemy.

I know some egals have differed here but if we look at modern word meanings ‘desire’ is not the best interpretation. Too many see it as sexual desire.

We know that the early church would have most likely been reading the Sept. and would have understood Gen 3:16 to mean that Eve was ‘turning’ from God and toward her husband. That is what God was saying would happen as a result of sin.

But comps teach women to ‘turn’ toward their husbands for leadership. They teach this as a Christian virtue. But the truth is that we should turn to God for leadership.

My view is that if we cannot get Gen 1-3 right, we cannot understand the rest at all.

One more thing, Mark mentioned that Adam was NOT with Eve when she ate. I have found this view interesting. Comp preachers differ on this. Piper says he was there. McArthur says he was not there.

I believe scripture teaches that Adam was there.