Dave

“Grudem are so inclined to male preeminance that he teaches in his book on feminism that God is subordinate to us when HE helps us.”

Once again he has swapped “submission” for “subordination” – but this time in relation to God with us! He will stop at nothing!

Due to the influence of culture, and the fall, and biology etc, how can we establish in a concrete way what “difference” there is between male and female other than differing roles in reproduction? I only feel safe talking about biblical distinctions, which to me does not work along gender lines as much as individual lines. We are each, as believers, individuals – dealt with personally by our Father who gives his Holy Spirit to us to work in each of us as He desires, so that we are all a part of one body, though different parts.

Why would this be outlined to us in scripture, but not male/female distinctions, if indeed they are of such importance?

Hey Mark, I am in Australia (Sydney). Where are you from in Oz?