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I couldn’t quite read the entire thread however … a few points.

First, there is not such word as “buttle” or “rebuttle.” If this is just a little more Aussie humour then, forgive me, mate.

Kephale does not actually mean “authority” or “origin” but has been interpreted as metaphorically representing one or the other.

There is only one example of a person who is the kephale of his people in the LXX and that is Jephthah. I don’t find it a realistic example of how the word would normally be used in Greek literature. Why was no other leader called the kephale of his family, tribe or nation? There isn’t one.

Perhaps, Mark, if you provided some examples of kephale used to mean “leader” or “authority” that would help to start the conversation.

Well, I haven’t much more to say, except that Paul mingled with quite a few woman who appear to be free agents. I don’t know why God would want women to live contrary to their created nature, which is, with respect to personal authority, identical to that of the male.