Dave

Great to have you back Mark…I assume assignments at PTC are not helping your time shortage!

I do not see any created order in these verses. What I see is information regarding image and glory of God and purpose of creation, as well as origin of creation (funny that…v. 8!) but nothing about “order”.
Regarding point 6, I was not saying there was created order…I actually referred to origin, but was asking a question about whether this is related to your understanding of created order. Sorry that was not clear!

Regarding: “Dave I don’t dismiss what verse 11 and 12 bring. I didn’t think I did that, maybe I wasn’t clear. This is consistent with what we saw in Gen, namely its not good to be alone, we need each other, God created us for each other. But this doesn’t negate the creation order of 7-10, it supports it. How do you reconcile the creation order with your view?”

But verse 12 is describing what happens NOW…and how it is fundamentally different to the Genesis account (not created order – but origin). Paul is introducing new info, is he not? “…for as woman was made from man, so man is NOW born of woman.”

How do I reconcile the created order with my view? Not sure what I need to reconcile…perhaps I am missing something obvious, or perhaps what I have explained answers this?

With regards to how I translate kephale…I think we agree…I translate it depending on the context I find it, however I recognise that it has been used metaphorically in the sence of source/origin/pre-eminate/mouth. I believe that these are very closely related and often interchangeable.

I agree with gangwell with regards to the NT usage of kephale in regards to authority. I believe that Col 1:18 shows an example of kephale to NOT mean authority…I believe it is very clear. Perhaps you could give us an example of where it is clear that it means authority?