Cheryl Schatz

Scott you said:

Hold on. “Adam had an obligation to protect Eve because he was not deceived.” Are you saying his obligation to protect Eve was not based on his relationship to/with her?

The Bible specifically says that Adam was not deceived. The Bible also shows that Adam was there while his wife was talking with the deceiver. The Bible also shows that we have an obligation to use the knowledge that we have been given for the benefit of our brother. Adam had an obligation to protect Eve because she was in the state of deception. In that state she was making a terrible choice which was determined by a lie. Adam failed Eve because he had the truth and he didn’t allow that truth to be used for her good.

The Bible never says that the man is the spiritual protector of the woman. In fact in many cases the woman has more knowledge than the man and she then has an obligation not to fail to give out the truth.

Would Adam have had the obligation to protect all 50 people if all 50 of them were deceived like his wife was? Absolutely! There is a great responsibility that comes with knowing the truth. We cannot leave our brother who has been taken captive by the enemy and when we are with knowledge as watchmen on the wall, stay silent and let them be led away to their death. God does hold us responsible.

Are the Father and the Son equal in their Deity? If not where is the defect in the Son in Heaven that requires Him to need protection?

You said:

A wife is obligatied to submit to all others in the body, as is the man. A wife also has an
obligation to submit to her husband- how else would God command it?

The bible is clear that submission is reciprocal, meaning going both ways, not just one way. A woman, a slave and a child would be told that they too need to submit. Yes, the gospel frees them and a slave, for example, has just as much authority in Christ as his master has, but Christ’s example is that even the greatest should act in humility and in submission to the need of the lesser. The best way to show love, is to submit to one another, preferring one another and treating the other with true humility and love. The one who refuses to submit shows a disregard for Christ and a failure to understand that submission and humility are Christian virtues, not virtues of women alone.