Cheryl Schatz

Kristen,
Yes, I see that we will have to agree to disagree, but that’s okay. There will come a time when we will all agree to everything, but it isn’t quite yet.

You said:

“Lamb Who was slain” is part and parcel of what it means to be the Christ.

I agree. That is why I believe this has to be the Word made flesh and cannot be about the Word as Spirit alone. The Spirit cannot die. This is why the Word HAD to be made flesh so He could become our Kinsman Redeemer and sacrifice Himself. The Lamb is a human who was sacrificed on our behalf.

You also said:

I also think that “all things” in Col 1:15 and 1 Cor. 8:6 probably means “all things”

I agree it means all things in Col 1:15. But the term “Christ” is not used in that passage. The term “Christ” IS used in 1 Cor. 8:6 but it is present tense not past.

I think the weakness of your position is implying that the Spirit (who is called the Word) is said to have died. I think that opens a can of worms about what was resurrected – a Spirit?

Thanks for sharing your position and I am sure it gives us all something to think about and wrestle through. Who knows who both could be wrong in our positions and may need to be corrected in the future. I leave myself open to that.