Lin

The other side to this is that men are not being saved. One cannot continually be abusive and be saved. There, I said it. GASP.

So, these pastors like Piper, Grudem, Ware, Patterson and others who teach women to stay and take it (even for a season) are putting these bullies eternal life in jeporady. I fear they love preeminance so much they will never see this.

By suggesting that women endure such things so that her submission will bring him to repentance, makes her responsble for his salvation. She becomes responsible and therefore it becomes her fault: She did not pray enough or submit enough.

But this does not work with bullies. They do not verbally or physically abuse their boss everyday. They would not keep a job. So, they abuse the weakest one they can get by with. It only enables more abuse to stay and take it. And the teaching on authority tells the abuser he gets to decide what is abuse and what isn’t. He has it made. Why change? He believes he can stay in sin and be saved by the teaching of these comp pastors. Using all the adjectives in the world like Piper uses won’t change this. The bully defines ‘love’ differently than Piper defines it.

Why don’t these same comps teach the government to submit to Osama bin Laden? If we pray hard enough and submit to him, I am sure it will change him, right? Wrong. Osama himself said that they attacked the towers because they were sure America was too weak to fight back.

You have to understand the mind of a bully.