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gengwall

2009-11-11

I’ll take this one:

  1. Now in relation to ‘kephale’ I am a bit perplexed. I think once Cheryl posts my other paper which does show that kephale can mean authority it might help. But until then, since the issue at hand here is between ‘people’ and since anytime kephale is used between people it denotes authority it is easy to see it working here. I have shown how the passage is in fact dealing with the concept of authority between a husband and a wife, so why are people saying I have failed to show how this passage is dealing with authority. Maybe Cheryl or gengwell can be a bit more precise in their meanings or questions.

A. 1 Corinthians 12:21 (the very next chapter) uses the head and body metaphor specifically between people and the head is not in authority. Your declaration is demonstrably false.
B. You have not shown that the the passage is dealing with the concept of authority between husband and wife, you have just assumed it and declared it. Just because you say it is so, doesn’t mean it is so. There is nothing in this passage that deals with who is in charge, who is the leader, who “rules” in the marriage. Those are all presupositions from which you argue, not propositions your argument proves. Never does Paul say this passage deals with an authoritarian hierarchy in marriage. You ask me for specifics but that is what I’m specifically asking for from you. Show me where Paul either says or implies that this passage has to do with who is in charge in the marriage. From what I understand from your earlier posts, this passage has to do with “formal church”, not the chain of command in marriage. So show me.

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