pinklight

Hi Gazza,

Firstly regarding #41 I was actually refereeing to verse 28 not 29 – got my referencing mixed up.
I don’t think that verse 29 really speaks to the idea that the roles are identical. Am I wrong here?

Which roles? Please do point them out! I only read commands – be blessed, multiply and eat. Verse 29 doesn’t speak to roles at all.

Re# 42 I fully agree that they both have equal rulership – just as they have equal parts to play in multiplying – but we know for sure that in multiplying each has a different role to play so how is it different when it comes to rulership

We know for sure that each has a different function because one was made male and one was made female (v27) so one can naturaly bear children and the other cannot. A woman doesn’t play giving childbirth, it’s just a natural function. It doesn’t logicaly follow that since both were commanded to multiply and one was male and the other female that therefore it is different when it comes to rulership. How is it different when it comes to food?

Re #44 You say that God gave the command to multiply or “be fruitful and increase in number” but not parenthood. I fear that we are merely dealing with semantics; I used the term parenthood, although it was not in the text to sum up the process God was anticipating in the command being fruitful and increasing.
Either way God commanded them to multiply and God clearly created male and female thus creating the requirement for each to fulfil a different role to multiply. Though it cannot be done by either alone each has to do their bit or it won’t happen. It is exactly because multiplying can not be done that each has to fulfil their role to obey the command.

Gazza, in #32 you said “but parenthood was a task given equally to both but with distinct roles within it.” It’s not semantics though to one it could look like semantics. Since God gave a command to multiply rather than parental roles, it cannot be sematics. A command cannot be a role. There is not one mention of “role” in the text. As long as one was made male and the other female they can obey the command to multiply.

Re #43
You ask “What exactly has been said that is beyond what is conveyed in the text?” I feel that Cheryls statement “ Where is the difference in design here? There is no difference at all. There is only equality.” Goes beyond the text as I have explained previously I feel that the text open to the possibility of roles within the equality – I still don’t feel that anyone has pointed out why this is can not be so.

How come if what Cheryl said goes beyond the text then you are the one asking about possibilities that are not in the text, roles that the text doesn’t say a word on, and not able to answer her question on where the difference in design is? seems to me that you are projecting onto what Cheryl said/asked what you yourself are trying to do.