Cheryl Schatz

Mark #83,
You asked:

1. So you do believe that quote ‘the man’ is ONLY refering to Adam and that it is not refering to Eve in the banishment.

Yes. Only Adam sinned deliberately, only Adam brought sin into the world and only Adam was made from the ground so it could only be “the Adam” the one man who was driven out of the garden to work the ground that he was made from. Is that clear enough?

2. I am understanding that you only believe in the one sin nature (from Adam). Sin is attributed to Adam, and therefore Eve did not have a different sin nature to Adam.

This is worded rather awkwardly. The Bible never says that Eve had a sin nature and we know that Eve did not bring sin into the world and none of her descendants inherited a sin nature from her. They all inherited the sin nature from Adam. The sin nature is the nature of rebellion. Eve did not have that. If you disagree you will have to show me from the Scriptures your proof.

3. This was quite clear that you DO believe that Eve was not a threat to the tree of life- even as a sinner. Thanks

Eve is not called “a sinner” but she did sin. She fell into sin through deception. She did not have a nature of rebellion and she could not have inherited that nature from Adam since she was created before he sinned. There is no evidence that Eve would have deliberately rebelled against God after Adam fell.

4. Again it was clear that you believe 3:16 is propheticaly fulfilled by Eve ‘following’ Adam out of the garden. You therefore reject she was banished. Thanks

I am saying that Eve was not banished from the garden as she was not in rebellion. God gave a prophesy to Eve in Genesis 3:16. This prophesy can be helpful to understand why Eve left the garden. Is this helpful?

5. Again i understand that you believe that this quote of Eve’s was a direct revelation to her seperate to the one given to Adam in Gen 2. Thanks. One last thing- was this quote that Eve gave, given to her ONLY or to her and Adam in your opinion?

God spoke to Adam directly when there was only Adam and God. There was also a time that the woman was alone with God. There is no doubt that He spoke to her then. However it appears that the words that the woman quoted to the serpent were a prohibition given to both of them because the direct quote uses the plural form not the singular.

Sorry for the slow answer. I have to try and talk here only after i complete my other work.

Ditto. I am often awol for long periods of time too so I fully understand the term “busy”. I am hoping that things will settle down for me because I have a book to write and right now I don’t have time to work on that project.

Also i want to try and give a comprehensive answer so that i am not continually told that i am avoiding questions. I’m sure you understand

Great! I have met too many complementarians who practiced being evasive, so I will take you at your word that you are going to try hard not to be seen as avoiding the questions. Also it is very commnendable that you are trying hard to understand so that you don’t misrepresent my point of view.