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@TheGermanicist 1. “John 5:19 and 20:17 is true.” Yes but neither passage teaches the Father was once a man or that Jesus is a created being. Jn 5:19 shows submission to another’s will, not ontological inferiority. In Jn 20:17, “My Father and your Father” distinguishes His Sonship by nature…

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@TheGermanicist 1. “John 5:19 and 20:17 is true.” Yes but neither passage teaches the Father was once a man or that Jesus is a created being. Jn 5:19 shows submission to another’s will, not ontological inferiority. In Jn 20:17, “My Father and your Father” distinguishes His Sonship by nature…

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