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Scripture Commentary article 2024-09-03

Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2023-12-13

A First Response to Mike Winger’s 11½ Hrs Video on 1 Timothy 2

A first response to Mike Winger's 11.5-hour Women in Ministry Part 12 video on 1 Timothy 2

1 Peter 5:2 1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-12

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii So…you are referring only to his 1 Tim 2:11-15 vid

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii So…you are referring only to his 1 Tim 2:11-15 video? He does have 13 videos in the series totally 43 hours.

1 Tim 2:11-15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-02

RT @ryanschatz: 6/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 5, final) 1 Timothy 2:15

RT @ryanschatz: 6/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 5, final) 1 Timothy 2:15 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 6-1. In 1 Tim 2:15, 'the woman' is said that she '…

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 2:15 1 Timothy 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-01

RT @ryanschatz: 5/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 4) 1 Timothy 2:13-14 ⎯⎯⎯

RT @ryanschatz: 5/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 4) 1 Timothy 2:13-14 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 5-1. In 1 Tim 2:13-14, Paul relates the problem back t…

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 2:13-14 1 Timothy 2:13-14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-29

RT @ryanschatz: 4/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 3) 1 Timothy 2:11-12 ⎯⎯⎯

RT @ryanschatz: 4/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 3) 1 Timothy 2:11-12 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 4-1. Paul then switches to the singular form in verse…

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:11-12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-29

RT @ryanschatz: 3/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 2) Context in 1 Timothy 2

RT @ryanschatz: 3/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 2) Context in 1 Timothy 2:1-10 In Chapter 2 and following the context of false teach…

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:1-10 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-28

RT @ryanschatz: 2/🧵Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 1) Context in 1 Timothy 1

RT @ryanschatz: 2/🧵Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 1) Context in 1 Timothy 1 "A Text Without A Context is Pretext for a Prooftext" Firs…

1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@ABlakeWhite Here's a diagram I created to show what's going on with 'a woman' a

@ABlakeWhite Here's a diagram I created to show what's going on with 'a woman' and 'the woman' in 1 Tim 2:11-15. https://t.co/nFcdCBmEDm

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@ABlakeWhite Here's the entire thread on 1 Tim 2:11-15. https://t.co/Re7txurXbV

@ABlakeWhite Here's the entire thread on 1 Tim 2:11-15. https://t.co/Re7txurXbV

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@ZachWLambert Most complementarians don’t believe that women can’t share the gospel. While I don’t agree with Zach on same sex unions, and I’m not sure how he gets his egalitarian views from 1 Tim 2:11-15 and 1 Tim 3:1-13, I agree with his conclusio...

@ZachWLambert Most complementarians don’t believe that women can’t share the gospel. While I don’t agree with Zach on same sex unions, and I’m not sure how he gets his egalitarian views from 1 Tim 2:

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-13

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Th

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning That certainly helped explain 1 Tim 2:11-15. You seem to be an expert in reading the obvious texts. What is meant in Matt

Matt 18:20 1 Tim 2:11-15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-10

@JollyStine @ronhenzel Mike Winger spent 4 hours in his 1 Tim 2:11-15 video on authentein but he threw out the idea that Paul may have been reaching back to an older Attic word to more accurately convey the meaning he needed for this situation. This ...

@JollyStine @ronhenzel Mike Winger spent 4 hours in his 1 Tim 2:11-15 video on authentein but he threw out the idea that Paul may have been reaching back to an older Attic word to more accurately conv

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii @pastherandie I taught all the following in four 1.5hr sessions: Gen 1-3, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13. The only reason @MikeWingerii needed 11 1/2 hours for this single passage in first Ti...

@DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii @pastherandie I taught all the following in four 1.5hr sessions: Gen 1-3, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13. The only reason @MikeWingerii neede

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@TWFtrish @ronhenzel @Jim7699 We’ve got better than that because there are excel

@TWFtrish @ronhenzel @Jim7699 We’ve got better than that because there are excellent exegetical and Biblically faithful explanations for 1 Tim 2:11-15 and the other passages seemingly restricting wome

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@will_servant @KimberleeJayneW I agree with you, but to be fair, the English translations of 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15; 3:1-13, Tit 1:5-9, etc can sound like they are restricting women. It can take work to undo the stuff we’ve been told is Biblic...

@will_servant @KimberleeJayneW I agree with you, but to be fair, the English translations of 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15; 3:1-13, Tit 1:5-9, etc can sound like they are restricting women. It can tak

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 Tit 1:5-9 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@kwesi_crocs 1 Tim 2:11-15 has nothing to do with this. There was a specific wom

@kwesi_crocs 1 Tim 2:11-15 has nothing to do with this. There was a specific woman in Ephesus teaching false doctrine. What does that have to do with politicians? We have very bad and some very good p

1 Tim 2:11-15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@freedom4alltime “Women know their role, they’re just refusing to submit to it”—where does the Bible refer to gendered roles? Is this concept or the word “role” even in scripture? A woman exercising her gifts is not rebelling if she has studied 1 Co...

@freedom4alltime “Women know their role, they’re just refusing to submit to it”—where does the Bible refer to gendered roles? Is this concept or the word “role” even in scripture? A woman exercising

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@ball_dummy @William_E_Wolfe 1 Pet 2:25 refers to Jesus as the shepherd and overseer of our souls. What makes that require overseers to be only males? 1 Tim 3:1 uses “tis” which is neutral for anyone or someone. Paul doesn’t use male pronouns. 1 Ti...

@ball_dummy @William_E_Wolfe 1 Pet 2:25 refers to Jesus as the shepherd and overseer of our souls. What makes that require overseers to be only males? 1 Tim 3:1 uses “tis” which is neutral for anyone

1 Pet 2:25 1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@katsandhearts @Richard89885354 It’s ok. There’s others that do care who read. I also do this for later when someone asks me the same question. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is complex enough that it needs to be explained in various ways and I also need the practic...

@katsandhearts @Richard89885354 It’s ok. There’s others that do care who read. I also do this for later when someone asks me the same question. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is complex enough that it needs to be exp

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@Furly43974976 @William_E_Wolfe The thing is, while some have been searching all

@Furly43974976 @William_E_Wolfe The thing is, while some have been searching all over for evidence of women, we’ve got 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13/Titus 1:5-9, Gen 1-3 etc well covered

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-05

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote Trying to use ambiguity or showing that Paul wasn’t being explicit related to sex in these roles? I’m doing the latter. I have consulted all that Paul wrote on this. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is being completely misunderstood by comp...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote Trying to use ambiguity or showing that Paul wasn’t being explicit related to sex in these roles? I’m doing the latter. I have consulted all that Paul wrote on this. 1 Tim

1 Tim 2:11-15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-03

@OrthodoxBarbie I wonder if they forgot to read Gen 1:18 that says that both men

@OrthodoxBarbie I wonder if they forgot to read Gen 1:18 that says that both men and women rule together. 🤷‍♂️ Then there's the problem of misreading 1 Tim 2:11-15...maybe this can help anyone out th

Gen 1:18 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-25

@crkrimmel @MikeWingerii And if you want to skip many rabbit trails, I show how 1 Tim 2:11-15 can be understood from an egalitarian perspective in ~10 minutes. Mike actually gives his interpretation in the early part of his video in about the same am...

@crkrimmel @MikeWingerii And if you want to skip many rabbit trails, I show how 1 Tim 2:11-15 can be understood from an egalitarian perspective in ~10 minutes. Mike actually gives his interpretation i

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-25

It’s a challenging passage, but it doesn’t take THAT long to show how 1 Tim 2:11

It’s a challenging passage, but it doesn’t take THAT long to show how 1 Tim 2:11-15 isn’t forbidding women from teaching true doctrine to men—you just have to stick with the scripture. https://t.co/My

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

I drew a diagram showing the syntactic relationships of the terms Paul uses in 1

I drew a diagram showing the syntactic relationships of the terms Paul uses in 1 Tim 2:11-15. It's a bit busy but I tried to show the relationships between 'a woman', Eve, 'the woman,' she and they. h

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

Here's a summary post pinned to my profile of responses to various passages: 1 C

Here's a summary post pinned to my profile of responses to various passages: 1 Cor 14:34-45, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13, Titus 1:5-9, 1 Cor 11:3, Eph 5:22-23, 1 Pet 3:1-6. https://t.co/4tYGBalq90

1 Cor 11:3 1 Cor 14:34-45 1 Pet 3:1-6 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-05

Reading 1 Tim 2:11-15 carefully in context we see that Paul’s focus is Timothy and how he ought to be have in the Church of God in handling false teaching. Read chapter 1⎯how Paul refers to the purpose of stopping false teachers and their teaching f...

Reading 1 Tim 2:11-15 carefully in context we see that Paul’s focus is Timothy and how he ought to be have in the Church of God in handling false teaching. Read chapter 1⎯how Paul refers to the purpo

1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-13

@InnovationHQ2 @punkrockproseco @ADRoblesMedia It’s not crystal clear. In 1 Cor 14:34-35, Paul is quoting from the letter the Corinthians wrote to him and in 1 Tim 2:11-15 he is pointing out a situation that he left Timothy behind in Ephesus to deal...

@InnovationHQ2 @punkrockproseco @ADRoblesMedia It’s not crystal clear. In 1 Cor 14:34-35, Paul is quoting from the letter the Corinthians wrote to him and in 1 Tim 2:11-15 he is pointing out a situat

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@TeregianKunta @pauldirks @KaeleyT Wow, I just saw this! Thanks for the feedback. Hope you stick around and view some of my other posts on this subject. I hope to cover all the relevant passages…just finishing up 1 Cor 11:1-16, but got interrupted...

@TeregianKunta @pauldirks @KaeleyT Wow, I just saw this! Thanks for the feedback. Hope you stick around and view some of my other posts on this subject. I hope to cover all the relevant passages…ju

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

@MikeWingerii I go through my explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 without referring to

@MikeWingerii I go through my explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 without referring to Artemis. 😊 “Context is king…context is Uber King 👑.”—Mike Winger [ep12 07:13:25] https://t.co/Y0IdPyu8TO

1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

Here is another overview of 1 Tim 2:11-15 which is a bit longer than the short preface to my chart in the first post of this thread. Hopefully you find it helpful. For Mike Winger: I agree with you in that I don’t see Artemis involved in this situa...

Here is another overview of 1 Tim 2:11-15 which is a bit longer than the short preface to my chart in the first post of this thread. Hopefully you find it helpful. For Mike Winger: I agree with you

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

For a much more thorough explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 along with reference mater

For a much more thorough explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 along with reference material related to Genesis 2 and the creation order, see the following thread. https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

Here is an explanation by Dr. James White explaining how the anaphoric use works. It's a bit complicated, so I hope that this clip helps you understand how I arrived at this in my exegesis of 1 Tim 2:11-15. This is how I inferred that the anaphoric...

Here is an explanation by Dr. James White explaining how the anaphoric use works. It's a bit complicated, so I hope that this clip helps you understand how I arrived at this in my exegesis of 1 Tim 2

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 2:14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Mike’s position hasn’t fundamentally changed since he started commenting on 1 Tim 2:11-15 about 4 years ago. The major difference is he holds it much more strongly now, and he’s hopeful v15’s th...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Mike’s position hasn’t fundamentally changed since he started commenting on 1 Tim 2:11-15 about 4 years ago. The major difference is he holds it

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor Being able to share a view clearly and succinctly doesn't make it correct. 4 years ago, Mike gave his view of 1 Tim 2:11-15 in 11 minutes in a Q&A. That's what succinct looks like⎯not 11.5 hours. But yes, Mike was s...

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor Being able to share a view clearly and succinctly doesn't make it correct. 4 years ago, Mike gave his view of 1 Tim 2:11-15 in 11 minutes in a Q&A. That's what succin

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Take a look at this clip. Surely he has seen my explanation on this going around X as he talks about social media and I have been responding with this idea for months on any thread discussing 1 Tim...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Take a look at this clip. Surely he has seen my explanation on this going around X as he talks about social media and I have been responding with t

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Sorry for the delayed response on this.

@Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Sorry for the delayed response on this. I summarized my view of 1 Tim 2:11-15 in the following post which links to a thread of posts which goes into more deta

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-23

@MikeWingerii @hashim_warren And here’s another one where Mike gives his view on

@MikeWingerii @hashim_warren And here’s another one where Mike gives his view on 1 Tim 2:11-15. In question 19, there’s discussion of how to approach your pastor on this issue. Question: is the past

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-23

@BogdanOancea77 @ingersoll_bob @MikeWingerii I agree there are lots of poor egalitarian arguments, especially on 1 Cor 14:34-35 and definitely on 1 Tim 2:11-15. So far, he hasn’t covered my view. He has known about it for 5 years now. Have you rea...

@BogdanOancea77 @ingersoll_bob @MikeWingerii I agree there are lots of poor egalitarian arguments, especially on 1 Cor 14:34-35 and definitely on 1 Tim 2:11-15. So far, he hasn’t covered my view. He

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-23

RT @ryanschatz: @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren And here’s another one where Mike g

RT @ryanschatz: @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren And here’s another one where Mike gives his view on 1 Tim 2:11-15. In question 19, there’s di…

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@ZacharyGarris Now, I haven’t reviewed what this lady is teaching, but godly women should not be prevented from teaching correct doctrine whether it’s to women or men. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is typically used to restrict women. However, in context and with ...

@ZacharyGarris Now, I haven’t reviewed what this lady is teaching, but godly women should not be prevented from teaching correct doctrine whether it’s to women or men. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is typically used

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@Mr_Clean2120 @amydiehl Have you even read the commentaries on this passage? They are all over the place, inconsistent, contradictory. Many even say outright that they don’t know what it means…especially verse 15. What historical interpretation of...

@Mr_Clean2120 @amydiehl Have you even read the commentaries on this passage? They are all over the place, inconsistent, contradictory. Many even say outright that they don’t know what it means…espec

1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@masonmennenga What is the evidence Paul didn’t write 1 Timothy? This is a clas

@masonmennenga What is the evidence Paul didn’t write 1 Timothy? This is a classic work of the apostle Paul. Rather, people are misreading what Paul says in 1 Tim 2:11-15. https://t.co/rBGS8Fof6Y

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

Looks like there are quite a few who want to hear what Mike has to say in respon

Looks like there are quite a few who want to hear what Mike has to say in response to my interpretation of 1 Tim 2:11-15. Well I’m certainly looking forward to it also! https://t.co/P4p53y2MP6

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@OregonTrashTalk @metathomist The pope is wrong on this. So many misread Paul’s

@OregonTrashTalk @metathomist The pope is wrong on this. So many misread Paul’s intention in this passage in 1 Tim 2:11-15. https://t.co/rBGS8Fof6Y

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@Wll24986 @Protestia I consider 1 Tim 2:11-15 “real” and consider myself to be c

@Wll24986 @Protestia I consider 1 Tim 2:11-15 “real” and consider myself to be conservative and holding closely to the fundamentals of the faith. https://t.co/rBGS8Fof6Y

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-19

@MikeWingerii Mike announces at 8:32 of the video that his 1 Tim 2:11-15 video—t

@MikeWingerii Mike announces at 8:32 of the video that his 1 Tim 2:11-15 video—the longest he has ever made—is in editing and should be up very soon. https://t.co/1RFXRf5ZL8

at 8:32 1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-19

Mike Winger is about to release his longest video teaching on 1 Tim 2:11-15. I

Mike Winger is about to release his longest video teaching on 1 Tim 2:11-15. I want to remind you what a Biblically consistent interpretation of this passage looks like. @MikeWingerii https://t.co/r

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
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