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@tom_barmadillo Well, I don’t think my take is unique. I think it’s the view of

@tom_barmadillo Well, I don’t think my take is unique. I think it’s the view of the apostles and the church of scripture that followed the apostles closely. And yes, many or most of the “great men” d

@JunusAnna I’m not sure I’d characterize this as hate. They think it is their lo

@JunusAnna I’m not sure I’d characterize this as hate. They think it is their lot in life. They are meant to rule over women as a responsibility. PS: the complementarians I know basically live like e

@smashbaals That’s not true! Paul was egalitarian—it’s all you men who struggle

@smashbaals That’s not true! Paul was egalitarian—it’s all you men who struggle to read Paul correctly. https://t.co/E3CoQIIMo7

@Just_A_Man67 @NicolasGold1 The issue here is you calling egalitarians prophets

@Just_A_Man67 @NicolasGold1 The issue here is you calling egalitarians prophets of Baal. When you were baptized, did you have to acknowledge the pastorate was solely for men?

@NicolasGold1 @Just_A_Man67 Complementarians and Patriarchalists are my brothers

@NicolasGold1 @Just_A_Man67 Complementarians and Patriarchalists are my brothers and sisters in Christ. While I believe Satan’s strategy is to convince people that women should be ruled and treated a

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals No, the qualifications don’t reference a man. I already showed you that. No male pronouns, tis is neuter and means anyone, and “one wife husband” is an idiom for faithful if married. Please list...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals No, the qualifications don’t reference a man. I already showed you that. No male pronouns, tis is neuter and means anyone, and “one wife husband”

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@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Grumpy, not a single pers

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Grumpy, not a single person is specifically identified as “pastor” so your argument falls flat. https://t.co/WrhPnz2cIL

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals I take Paul’s words as fu

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals I take Paul’s words as fully inspired, so my “opinion” isn’t to disregard Paul. Yes, God is not the author of confusion. The confusion comes fro

@rofbethany No. Show me where scripture says Christ rules over His bride or tak

@rofbethany No. Show me where scripture says Christ rules over His bride or takes authority over His bride.

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals That there are more men d

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals That there are more men does nothing to show that a female pastor is sinning by serving in this capacity.

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Again, you presume things: 1. That equal opportunity must mean we should see equal representation of M/F 2. That the NT explicitly names all pastors/elders 3. That God designates leadership to b...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Again, you presume things: 1. That equal opportunity must mean we should see equal representation of M/F 2. That the NT explicitly names all pas

@Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals “He will rule over you” isn’t a curse though. It’s a prophecy. God didn’t say, “I will make sure that he rules over you” nor did He say to Adam “you must rule over your wife” to show He gave Adam...

@Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals “He will rule over you” isn’t a curse though. It’s a prophecy. God didn’t say, “I will make sure that he rules over you” nor did He say to Adam “

@silentrnajority @russle_p2 I’ve been debating this issue because it is an issue affecting many women in the church. It also affects men who support women in leadership as 3 local churches I was interested in wouldn’t let me ever be a leader because ...

@silentrnajority @russle_p2 I’ve been debating this issue because it is an issue affecting many women in the church. It also affects men who support women in leadership as 3 local churches I was inter

@GarrettBWood You don’t get it, do you? Patriarchalists were just going with the

@GarrettBWood You don’t get it, do you? Patriarchalists were just going with the flow of the culture. Even other religions and atheists. Patriarchalists’ claim to be counter cultural wasn’t true for m

@jladamsbrown That’s right. And the Patriarchalists presumably don’t support sla

@jladamsbrown That’s right. And the Patriarchalists presumably don’t support slavery which the culture doesn’t support either. So there’s that too.

@Writerwhsmith @JamesPelton18 This is absolutely correct! It is a word used in the verb form only once in the New Testament and only 8 other times in antiquity. It is extremely rare and one would wonder why Paul chose this specific word to mean norma...

@Writerwhsmith @JamesPelton18 This is absolutely correct! It is a word used in the verb form only once in the New Testament and only 8 other times in antiquity. It is extremely rare and one would wond

@sethhezekiah No, silly. Heresy has to do with the fundamentals of the faith. No one has to repent of mutual submission to be a Christian. All of the people you listed went along with the culture when it came to women at least to some degree or anot...

@sethhezekiah No, silly. Heresy has to do with the fundamentals of the faith. No one has to repent of mutual submission to be a Christian. All of the people you listed went along with the culture whe

@russle_p2 @nic_mizeur Yes, the church subjects itself to Christ but Jesus liter

@russle_p2 @nic_mizeur Yes, the church subjects itself to Christ but Jesus literally subjected everything for His church. Subjecting oneself in this context doesn't mean to obey but to subject one's

@BBWoofield So now you have two possible meanings. How do you know which one applies here in Gen 3:16? In toil she shall bring forth children, yet her desire will be for her husband. Given the toil she will experience in childrearing, it is interes...

@BBWoofield So now you have two possible meanings. How do you know which one applies here in Gen 3:16? In toil she shall bring forth children, yet her desire will be for her husband. Given the toil

Gen 3:16 question

@BBWoofield First, there's no mention of God cursing the man or the woman, only the ground and the serpent (more than all the animals, so the animals are cursed too). What Ge 3:16 is saying is that Eve's desire or longing for her husband will be des...

@BBWoofield First, there's no mention of God cursing the man or the woman, only the ground and the serpent (more than all the animals, so the animals are cursed too). What Ge 3:16 is saying is that E

Ge 3:16 general

@RebeccaAVelo I'm not sure that the statement "hated most people" is an accurate

@RebeccaAVelo I'm not sure that the statement "hated most people" is an accurate representation. But you are right, their view of women is very depressing. Sorry⎯I had to show the patriachalists and c

@humbledoulos Paul indicates that his purpose in writing this personal letter to Timothy (in which we can all learn many things) was "to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach strange doctrines" (1Ti 1:3). Later ...

@humbledoulos Paul indicates that his purpose in writing this personal letter to Timothy (in which we can all learn many things) was "to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people

1Ti 1:3 commentary

@Peacemaker811 Yes! The idea that the wall was torn down in Christ means there w

@Peacemaker811 Yes! The idea that the wall was torn down in Christ means there was a wall before the church was started. Too bad many in the church in the following years didn’t get the memo.

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@humbledoulos The typical verses from scripture are not promoting the view of su

@humbledoulos The typical verses from scripture are not promoting the view of subduing women. Paul is dealing with false teachers in 1Tim; stopping all women from teaching is not in line with dealing

@JamesPelton18 Except Paul is refuting those he is quoting from the letter the C

@JamesPelton18 Except Paul is refuting those he is quoting from the letter the Corinthians wrote. And in 1Ti 2:11-12, Paul is dealing with a specific wife in Ephesus who is teaching false doctrine.

1Ti 2:11-12 general

@sethhezekiah @Forms_Respecter Long before the church men were dominating women.

@sethhezekiah @Forms_Respecter Long before the church men were dominating women. It goes all the way back to Eden, I'm afraid.

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Oh boy, Grumpy. Are you suggesting that as Jesus is the Lord and master that the husband is the lord and master over his wife? Because that's not Paul's argument here. Paul's argument is to agai...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Oh boy, Grumpy. Are you suggesting that as Jesus is the Lord and master that the husband is the lord and master over his wife? Because that's not

@spaceangelvoice I'm not a fan of the everything that came from the age of enlightenment, but yes, in Paul's writing we have very clearly that there is a new unified "person" that is called the Christian and the walls that formerly existed are now to...

@spaceangelvoice I'm not a fan of the everything that came from the age of enlightenment, but yes, in Paul's writing we have very clearly that there is a new unified "person" that is called the Christ

@springbrease @KaeleyT Thanks for asking. The comment I get from a lot of patriachalists is that their view reflects the view of the church fathers and 2000 years of church history. And they are right (though it doesn't reflect the view of the apostl...

@springbrease @KaeleyT Thanks for asking. The comment I get from a lot of patriachalists is that their view reflects the view of the church fathers and 2000 years of church history. And they are right

@geekyguyjay But God didn't curse the woman or the man. If you look at the test, He cursed the ground and the serpent (and the animals). The "patriarchy" culture I'm referring to isn't even from the Old Testament, it's from the time after Jesus. It'...

@geekyguyjay But God didn't curse the woman or the man. If you look at the test, He cursed the ground and the serpent (and the animals). The "patriarchy" culture I'm referring to isn't even from the

@NathanCTrilogue Yes, married. So the men of the past couldn’t extract themselv

@NathanCTrilogue Yes, married. So the men of the past couldn’t extract themselves from the culture of their day and then we egalitarians are being told that we are falling prey to our modern culture?

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Where is a slave’s preach

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Where is a slave’s preaching highlighted? Where is a slave called an elder or pastor? The same questions you ask of women can be asked of slaves

@th3muse A life goal might be to aim to be last. While Paul appears to be first

@th3muse A life goal might be to aim to be last. While Paul appears to be first because of his prominence in the New Testament, he is frequently rejected and explains how he and the other apostles are

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals I agree, God is not progressive. Yet there are some things that changed in the church like the divide between Jew and Gentile and yes, between male and female. No one is saying that it has to be 50/50. It’s not ...

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals I agree, God is not progressive. Yet there are some things that changed in the church like the divide between Jew and Gentile and yes, between male and female. N

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals No my grumpy friend. Paul was counter cult

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals No my grumpy friend. Paul was counter cultural. This passage is Paul’s personal instruction to Timothy whom he left behind to deal with the false teachers about h

@susie40647926 Hi Susie! It’s a struggle because something doesn’t seem right. For example, a few verses before Paul writes that women must keep silent, he writes: "…When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a to...

@susie40647926 Hi Susie! It’s a struggle because something doesn’t seem right. For example, a few verses before Paul writes that women must keep silent, he writes: "…When you assemble, each one has a

Some say that egalitarians are just letting the culture influence their view of

Some say that egalitarians are just letting the culture influence their view of scripture. Let’s take a trip down memory lane and see who is aligning more with culture, shall we? Aristotle: “Silence

@Here4Now0829 @sssssss09775798 “One wife husband” is an idiom not a requirement for them to be married men. Paul wasn’t married and is most definitely an overseer, and Timothy doesn’t appear to be married either. “If a MAN desire…” is a bad translat...

@Here4Now0829 @sssssss09775798 “One wife husband” is an idiom not a requirement for them to be married men. Paul wasn’t married and is most definitely an overseer, and Timothy doesn’t appear to be mar

@ronhenzel @smashbaals Well, all but the churches in scripture. But you are right. The church really was influenced by the culture. Let’s see just how culturally relevant your view is: Aristotle: “Silence is a woman’s glory.” Sophocles: "Silence gi...

@ronhenzel @smashbaals Well, all but the churches in scripture. But you are right. The church really was influenced by the culture. Let’s see just how culturally relevant your view is: Aristotle: “Si

@ryancduff Silence is a woman’s glory? Wow. Just like a pet.

@ZRWJ_ @jtdxn_ Why didn’t the apostles form a crusade against the Romans?

from 7:1 1Co 14:34-35 general

@Chainsaw59598 All scripture is inspired, including 1Co 14:34-35. Like Paul does

@Chainsaw59598 All scripture is inspired, including 1Co 14:34-35. Like Paul does a number of times in 1Co starting from 7:1, he quotes from the letter from the Corinthians and refutes them. https://t.

@Here4Now0829 Oh that’s cute. Let’s start with the list of men called pastor in

@Here4Now0829 Oh that’s cute. Let’s start with the list of men called pastor in the New Testament. If you can’t find any, that might shed light on the answer to your question.

@Grump_Old_Man Why don’t you tell me how 1Ti 3:11 only speaks about the wives of

@Grump_Old_Man Why don’t you tell me how 1Ti 3:11 only speaks about the wives of deacons and not the wives of elders given that “one wife husband” is stated for both?

1Ti 3:11 question

@Grump_Old_Man Everyone who follows me is probably laughing right now because I

@Grump_Old_Man Everyone who follows me is probably laughing right now because I literally spend all my time explaining this stuff from scripture. Ok, here we go again… https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

@MikeStalingrad @BeanofChrist @jtdxn_ Show me a single example of where the Apostles interpreted this as taking a place in government. None of them did. And they were all martyred for preaching the gospel, not for trying to enact anti-abortion laws (...

@MikeStalingrad @BeanofChrist @jtdxn_ Show me a single example of where the Apostles interpreted this as taking a place in government. None of them did. And they were all martyred for preaching the go

@MikeStalingrad @BeanofChrist @jtdxn_ I was referring to the Great Commission, s

@MikeStalingrad @BeanofChrist @jtdxn_ I was referring to the Great Commission, silly. Your mandate is to make disciples and teach DISCIPLES to obey everything God commanded to the apostles. You are no

@Grump_Old_Man So the wives of elders have no restrictions? They can be filthy h

@Grump_Old_Man So the wives of elders have no restrictions? They can be filthy heathens?

@Grump_Old_Man If God’s intent was to accept Gentiles fully and have them being pastors and leaders and preachers, why wouldn’t he have captured one Gentile sermon? See how this works Grumpy? Name anyone who is called pastor? How about anyone spec...

@Grump_Old_Man If God’s intent was to accept Gentiles fully and have them being pastors and leaders and preachers, why wouldn’t he have captured one Gentile sermon? See how this works Grumpy? Name a

@Grump_Old_Man “A man” and all the “he”‘s are inserted in English. The Greek has

@Grump_Old_Man “A man” and all the “he”‘s are inserted in English. The Greek has tis meaning anyone/someone and no other pronouns. Women is in v11 which you didn’t include in the image. Women *likewi