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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-13

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Well, I didn't say it should be done without telling the elders, but that the elders are not the church. It would be probably wise to tell the elders first. However, my prior church added the elders as the third a...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Well, I didn't say it should be done without telling the elders, but that the elders are not the church. It would be probably wise to tell the elders first. Howeve

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@DeeGoingsGirl @pauldirks @KaeleyT Matt 18:15-20 and church discipline doesn’t even say “if he refuses to listen to the 1 or 2 (additional) witnesses, then take it to the elders”—no, it says “take it to the church” and that doesn’t mean to the “staff...

@DeeGoingsGirl @pauldirks @KaeleyT Matt 18:15-20 and church discipline doesn’t even say “if he refuses to listen to the 1 or 2 (additional) witnesses, then take it to the elders”—no, it says “take it

Matt 18:15-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, but the elders were not called to get him

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, but the elders were not called to get him to comply. Seems like Dee just waited until he finally did it (this specific time).

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Yes, everyone who is able bodied should do something to contribute, though clearly there are obvious cases where this doesn't apply. But are you saying that if there is something she isn't keeping up with, your opt...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Yes, everyone who is able bodied should do something to contribute, though clearly there are obvious cases where this doesn't apply. But are you saying that if ther

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Heb 5:12 says “In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!” If they could all be teachers, what’...

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Heb 5:12 says “In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not

Heb 5:12 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Where is the term “role” ever mentioned? And where

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Where is the term “role” ever mentioned? And where is teacher an office? Is not an elder said to be able to teach? As one can be both an apostle and elder/overseer, doe

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, P

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder I agree with you that pastor and elder/overseer should not be distin

@dougponder I agree with you that pastor and elder/overseer should not be distinguished. How anyone would get that a woman can be a pastor but not an elder makes no sense to me.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Elders are not meant to “rule” because they are not kings over the c

@dougponder Elders are not meant to “rule” because they are not kings over the church. They are servants carrying out a task and given a responsibility. They “care” for the Lord’s church.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John and Peter self-identify as elders. No one is explicitly identified as a bishop. How can you then argue that no women f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Isn’t it normal to use the male gender of words if either female or

@dougponder Isn’t it normal to use the male gender of words if either female or male is possible? Where do we see the text say anywhere, “and elder must not be a woman?”

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women just as men should shepherd younger men. The latte...

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women j

Titus 2:6-8 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) ⎯ Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or w

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Let's test this theory out, shall we?

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Let's test this theory out, shall we? Here's a command: stop suppressing women. I'm a man. I'm an elder. Will you listen? Or are you just not doing what

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Of course I have a pastor, it's not Winger but I do appreciate much of his work. There are female elders in my church (as you might expect). We are leaving the Reformed Church of Am...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Of course I have a pastor, it's not Winger but I do appreciate much of his work. There are female elders in my church (as you might

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I already explained that I just find it ironic that if the position of elder must be male that the word itself is feminine. I didn't say that elders must be women. You are deceptive in how you are framing what I said and ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I already explained that I just find it ironic that if the position of elder must be male that the word itself is feminine. I didn't say that elders must be women. You are

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam We don't interpret scripture by history, but by the text. - No-one is specifically identified as a pastor in the New Testament except Jesus. - Only two identify as elders (Peter and John), and they self identify. - No one i...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam We don't interpret scripture by history, but by the text. - No-one is specifically identified as a pastor in the New Testament except Jesus. - Only two identify as elders (P

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Right, but isn't it just funny that people are saying that being an elder must be male but the word itself is feminine? Don't you see the irony? Hey, I replied to a number of other things you stated. I hope you take the ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Right, but isn't it just funny that people are saying that being an elder must be male but the word itself is feminine? Don't you see the irony? Hey, I replied to a number

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the faith with a clear conscience, etc)⎯it also doesn't ...

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the fa

1 Cor 14:34 1 Tim 2:11 1 Tim 3:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explicitly identified as elders (Peter and John) - No one...

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explici

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What do you mean by be in authority over a man? Does ...

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@punkpublican I'm glad you allow women to evangelize! Wouldn't that be teaching someone the gospel? Being an elder is simply teaching and correcting to what the Bible says, not making new doctrine. What makes you think that this is the domain of m...

@punkpublican I'm glad you allow women to evangelize! Wouldn't that be teaching someone the gospel? Being an elder is simply teaching and correcting to what the Bible says, not making new doctrine.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility and a service to offer. About headship, take a loo...

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@ChristVictorous An elder is simply someone who has exemplary and proven godly character, is able to handle the Word rightly, is capable of teaching, patient when contradicted, able to deal gently with those who contradict and correct false teaching,...

@ChristVictorous An elder is simply someone who has exemplary and proven godly character, is able to handle the Word rightly, is capable of teaching, patient when contradicted, able to deal gently wit

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC The doctrine that came out of this was set out by the Apostles⎯James, Paul, Peter, but it was also agreed to by the WHOLE church. James was the leader in this judgment but in verse 22 it was the whole church which inclu...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC The doctrine that came out of this was set out by the Apostles⎯James, Paul, Peter, but it was also agreed to by the WHOLE church. James was the leader in this judgment b

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@sympatheticNPC @graceforprize I think, however, that we still have teachers in the church in that elders must be able to teach. So the Holy Spirit does work through people. It's just that we shouldn't consider any elder or pastor as "the teacher" ...

@sympatheticNPC @graceforprize I think, however, that we still have teachers in the church in that elders must be able to teach. So the Holy Spirit does work through people. It's just that we should

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-23

@jdenehar Thanks for sharing your thoughts and chiming in. What are the specific husband/wife roles you are referring to? How do those apply to singles? what authority does your pastor and elders have? Can they tell you what kind of car you shoul...

@jdenehar Thanks for sharing your thoughts and chiming in. What are the specific husband/wife roles you are referring to? How do those apply to singles? what authority does your pastor and elders h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-13

@scribe_ezra I hear you. But Jesus says 2 or 3. I don’t think He made a mistake in His words. He says it again in both verses 19 and 20. If He is referring to a church gathering, would that mean that one of the two must be an elder or pastor? Or...

@scribe_ezra I hear you. But Jesus says 2 or 3. I don’t think He made a mistake in His words. He says it again in both verses 19 and 20. If He is referring to a church gathering, would that mean t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-13

@Michael_B_1970 @NormalGuy3090 @AlexisAdcock5 @Oneiorosgrip @RealPaulElam Matt 1

@Michael_B_1970 @NormalGuy3090 @AlexisAdcock5 @Oneiorosgrip @RealPaulElam Matt 18:20 speaks or 2 or 3. Why? Is it 2 or is it 3? What if it’s more than 3? If it’s 2 or 3, does one need to be an elde

Matt 18:20 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-13

Should it be 2 or is it 3? What if it’s more than 3? Does one have to be an el

Should it be 2 or is it 3? What if it’s more than 3? Does one have to be an elder? Maybe I should read the context… 🧐 https://t.co/uGxvzrMVng

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-13

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals Yes, he’s an apostle. Indeed, the qualifications are inspired from God and not just made up by Paul. But if a pastor or elder of overseer or bishop must be married and have multiple believing children, that means...

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals Yes, he’s an apostle. Indeed, the qualifications are inspired from God and not just made up by Paul. But if a pastor or elder of overseer or bishop must be marrie

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-13

@MonkeyAmongMen @mysanthrope1234 @RealPaulElam Which is it, 2 or 3? Does one of

@MonkeyAmongMen @mysanthrope1234 @RealPaulElam Which is it, 2 or 3? Does one of them have to be an elder?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-06

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals We were taking about elders/overseers/bishops/pastors not apostles. But you said Paul was an apostle and not an elder. I showed you scripture that an apostle can be both an apostle and an elder. The text literal...

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals We were taking about elders/overseers/bishops/pastors not apostles. But you said Paul was an apostle and not an elder. I showed you scripture that an apostle can

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-06

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals 1 Peter 5:1 (NASB 2020): “Therefore, I urge elders among you, as your fellow elder…” If Peter was both an apostle and elder, then we have a documented case of one being both. Paul was very obviously an overseer o...

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals 1 Peter 5:1 (NASB 2020): “Therefore, I urge elders among you, as your fellow elder…” If Peter was both an apostle and elder, then we have a documented case of one

1 Peter 5:1 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-06

@m_james76997 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals It's a great question. Maybe the next question you ought to ask is why He only chose Jews as apostles. Are we only to have Jewish pastors and elders? What do you mean by "How does it work if she's married"? It...

@m_james76997 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals It's a great question. Maybe the next question you ought to ask is why He only chose Jews as apostles. Are we only to have Jewish pastors and elders? What do yo

Ephesians 5:21 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-03

@Mosleya62Mosley @dannolane @Rach4Patriarchy Usually leaders are those who serve all and lead by example. They are mature, lead exemplary lives, are humble, Biblically faithful, and elders/overseers/pastors must be able to teach and correct false te...

@Mosleya62Mosley @dannolane @Rach4Patriarchy Usually leaders are those who serve all and lead by example. They are mature, lead exemplary lives, are humble, Biblically faithful, and elders/overseers/

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-31

@DaneTilley90581 @ShaneSpenc77 @smashbaals There is no distinction made based on

@DaneTilley90581 @ShaneSpenc77 @smashbaals There is no distinction made based on gender related to the office of elder/pastor/overseer. https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-06

@VinhasTJ @Brian_Sauve The qualifications for deacons is the same as elders asid

@VinhasTJ @Brian_Sauve The qualifications for deacons is the same as elders aside from being able to teach. So if you think women can be deacons then they can also be elders. https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-06

@Brian_Sauve The Bible doesn’t restrict elders to men just like it doesn’t requi

@Brian_Sauve The Bible doesn’t restrict elders to men just like it doesn’t require elders to be married and have multiple children. https://t.co/4tYGBalq90

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-29

Another thread on elders, overseers and pastors and whether gender is a factor.

Another thread on elders, overseers and pastors and whether gender is a factor. https://t.co/sy1fmBTHJq

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-29

@William_E_Wolfe Here’s a great thread on elders and whether there is a distinct

@William_E_Wolfe Here’s a great thread on elders and whether there is a distinction based on gender. https://t.co/sNDMY1pnpp

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-29

@William_E_Wolfe Please list the scriptures identifying all the men that were called pastors (ποιμήν) in the New Testament. (Hint: the only one specifically identified as a shepherd is Jesus). When you are done looking for that, look for all the me...

@William_E_Wolfe Please list the scriptures identifying all the men that were called pastors (ποιμήν) in the New Testament. (Hint: the only one specifically identified as a shepherd is Jesus). When

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-28

@sisi_siki_ Many feel that 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 teach that elders or overseers must be men because it says “husband of one wife.” However, this is an idiom for faithful if married. It is clear Paul didn’t require marriage just as he didn’t require h...

@sisi_siki_ Many feel that 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 teach that elders or overseers must be men because it says “husband of one wife.” However, this is an idiom for faithful if married. It is clear Paul d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-26

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to as a shepherd. - Name one person in the NT church...

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to

1 Tim 3:1-2 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals All churches have bi

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals All churches have bishops because its the same as elder/overseer/pastor.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Oh, please show me where Timothy is called a bishop? I see all these terms, bishop/overseer/elder/pastor to all end up meaning the same thing as they end up being used interchangeably, but ...

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Oh, please show me where Timothy is called a bishop? I see all these terms, bishop/overseer/elder/pastor to all end up meaning the same thi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishops/elders/pasto

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishops/elders/pastors/overseers are all interchangeable in scripture. We use the term elders and pastors. So no and yes.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishop/overseer (ἐπίσκοπος, episkopos) and elder (πρεσβύτερος, presbyteros) are used interchangeably in scripture when speaking of leaders in the church. We might use them differently now, ...

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishop/overseer (ἐπίσκοπος, episkopos) and elder (πρεσβύτερος, presbyteros) are used interchangeably in scripture when speaking of leaders i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-23

@OkieLibSherry @nakedpastor In this particular instance scripture says 7 men were chosen and gives their names. However, we have little details on specific people who are called deacons or elders in the New Testament. Only two (Peter and John) self...

@OkieLibSherry @nakedpastor In this particular instance scripture says 7 men were chosen and gives their names. However, we have little details on specific people who are called deacons or elders in

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-22

@AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @nakedpastor No one is called the “head” of any church. There is no lead pastor/shepherd indicated in scripture except Jesus (1 Peter 5:4). Also, Peter calls himself a fellow elder (1 Peter 5:1) so someone can be both an Apos...

@AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @nakedpastor No one is called the “head” of any church. There is no lead pastor/shepherd indicated in scripture except Jesus (1 Peter 5:4). Also, Peter calls himself a fellow

1 Peter 5:1 1 Peter 5:4 general
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