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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-25

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not prevent qualified women from leadership. In fact, ...

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not p

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do these men need to be taught by women?" but "why do ...

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Paul is the one changing the gramm

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Paul is the one changing the grammar. I think your accusation is not against me but against the apostle Paul. I'm just trying to understand what he mean

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 I'm not starting from a pre-conceived idea of egalitarianism. I was raised with the idea that women were not allowed to preach and that the leadership role was male only. The CBE article you linked makes the following comment: "In J...

@BogdanOancea77 I'm not starting from a pre-conceived idea of egalitarianism. I was raised with the idea that women were not allowed to preach and that the leadership role was male only. The CBE art

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 Wait…so women can only read from the Bible if men are not present? What are men so scared of? So if a man walks into such a group so they stop and wait for him to leave? How can women be under a male overseer if a man would then ne...

@BogdanOancea77 Wait…so women can only read from the Bible if men are not present? What are men so scared of? So if a man walks into such a group so they stop and wait for him to leave? How can wom

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues & prophesying was allowed for everybody": a. About ...

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues &

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manuscripts, and verses 34-35 are contradicting what P...

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 Yes. Yes I am. If you don't believe me, listen to what John MacArthur says about this term in his message titled "Does the Bible Permit a Woman to Preach?" starting at around 2m 46s. He explains it means "disgraceful or shameful......

@BogdanOancea77 Yes. Yes I am. If you don't believe me, listen to what John MacArthur says about this term in his message titled "Does the Bible Permit a Woman to Preach?" starting at around 2m 46s.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift which might be included in "word of instruction" fro...

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift wh

1Cor14:6 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 that says that an elder must ...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unusual for any elder or deacon. Most are not mentio...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, it is certainly a good question. The qualifications for deacon are the same as elder aside for "must be able to teach" and we know Phoebe is a deacon(ness). Do we know the names of the elders in Ephesus? No, they ar...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, it is certainly a good question. The qualifications for deacon are the same as elder aside for "must be able to teach" and we know Phoebe is a deacon(ness). Do we kno

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii So I put my exegesis of 1 Cor 14:34-35 in a thread fo

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii So I put my exegesis of 1 Cor 14:34-35 in a thread for you. Enjoy. 😅 https://t.co/0UJxaSEb7U

1 Cor 14:34-35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Verses 11 and 12 contain an anarthrous noun (without the article), so in Greek, when we have a later reference with the article (v14 "the woman"), it is taken as an anaphoric reference back to the anarthr...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Verses 11 and 12 contain an anarthrous noun (without the article), so in Greek, when we have a later reference with the article (v14 "the woman"), it is t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light of Paul responding to matters raised in the Corinthian letter to him is that he quotes from their letter and responds or

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the wo

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the word? NONSENSE! Adam Clarke and Sir William Ramsay both take this as Paul quoting from the Corinthians (see below): http

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

19/23🧵Would Paul have used the oral law to back up his doctrine? Would he have described a woman’s voice as indecent, lewd, filthy, vile or foul? Given the context of the verses surrounding v34-35, I argue absolutely NOT! Paul replies back in the ...

19/23🧵Would Paul have used the oral law to back up his doctrine? Would he have described a woman’s voice as indecent, lewd, filthy, vile or foul? Given the context of the verses surrounding v34-35,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthi

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians and rebuking it. See the attached quote from the 1924 Montgomery translation of the New Testament which interpreted

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

14/23🧵Earlier in chapter 5 Paul noted the sexual immorality among them⎯so this is why he responded the way he does in ch 7. Paul shows how abstaining from things doesn't resolve the problem. See how Paul addresses this issue in the letter to the Co...

14/23🧵Earlier in chapter 5 Paul noted the sexual immorality among them⎯so this is why he responded the way he does in ch 7. Paul shows how abstaining from things doesn't resolve the problem. See how

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks, some don’t. Some use commas or colons. Imagine how easy it is to misunderstand this to mean that Paul was advocating

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from speaking in the assembly. Paul never gave validity to these oral laws to form the basis of the church. https://t.co/Q2aI

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

9/23🧵The Jews were not allowed to burn God's word, but if it came down to a choi

9/23🧵The Jews were not allowed to burn God's word, but if it came down to a choice between giving scriptures into the hands of women or destroying God's word, they were told that the scriptures should

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

7/23🧵There are Jewish oral rabbinical traditions (referred to as the oral law or traditions of the elders) which are captured in the Talmud. In the Talmud, women - are blamed for the fall of man - were to be heard and seen as little as possible - no...

7/23🧵There are Jewish oral rabbinical traditions (referred to as the oral law or traditions of the elders) which are captured in the Talmud. In the Talmud, women - are blamed for the fall of man - we

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

6/23🧵How could Paul be making the statement that women speaking in church is lik

6/23🧵How could Paul be making the statement that women speaking in church is like the disgrace of being a prostitute? Where is this reflected in the law?? https://t.co/ZpZYroN9Aw

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

4/23🧵In the local context, it seems clear that silent means to not speak or voca

4/23🧵In the local context, it seems clear that silent means to not speak or vocalize. It is applied to women (plural) and it applies in the context of the church. https://t.co/apPmHgixip

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

3/23🧵However, few churches if any take such a literal view. For one, there are

3/23🧵However, few churches if any take such a literal view. For one, there are clear scriptures permitting women to speak in church like in Acts 2:16 quoting from Joel 2:28-29. https://t.co/kJ9IjMKae

Acts 2:16 Joel 2:28-29 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

2/23🧵Taken out of its context and strictly literally, we would have: 1. No women

2/23🧵Taken out of its context and strictly literally, we would have: 1. No women preaching 2. No women singing 3. No women teaching children or adults 4. No women doing anything that requires vocaliza

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

1/23🧵Exegeting 1 Cor 14:34-35. Notice that silence is within the church, it's substantiated by 'the law' which subordinates and silences women, and the reason is because their voice is disgraceful. Being rude and interrupting is a different probl...

1/23🧵Exegeting 1 Cor 14:34-35. Notice that silence is within the church, it's substantiated by 'the law' which subordinates and silences women, and the reason is because their voice is disgraceful.

1 Cor 14:34-35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. There was no hierarchy or authority structures created...

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. Ther

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul referring to authority and hierarchy to explain the...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@marauder34 @_nomadic_soul @AMS_Perkins Well…authorities on the other side were silenced. They said something and were fired, defrocked and kicked off social media. Which begs the question: when someone is willing to lose their job for speaking up ...

@marauder34 @_nomadic_soul @AMS_Perkins Well…authorities on the other side were silenced. They said something and were fired, defrocked and kicked off social media. Which begs the question: when som

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii In the meantime, do you have an issue with my exegesi

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii In the meantime, do you have an issue with my exegesis?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@farmingandJesus “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind,

@farmingandJesus “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.”

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii No, that's not quite what I think is going on here. There appears to be a specific couple in the Ephesian church where the woman is deceived and teaching false doctrine and the husband who knows better (possibly he's even ...

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii No, that's not quite what I think is going on here. There appears to be a specific couple in the Ephesian church where the woman is deceived and teaching false doctrine and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@BrotherBoaz @PastorMark Fair enough. It's definitely mostly a guy thing to do

@BrotherBoaz @PastorMark Fair enough. It's definitely mostly a guy thing to do what Mark said. Probably the female equivalent is social media 24/7 with the rest mostly the same. I guess I'm saying

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@PastorMark Good point. But it makes me wonder...is it ok for women to do that?

@PastorMark Good point. But it makes me wonder...is it ok for women to do that??

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii 1) Does Paul say the woman is not also the glory of God? No. 2) No, rather since Eve was made from Adam's flesh and bone Adam's transgression applies to all humanity. Adam's sin was different than Eve's; God considered i...

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii 1) Does Paul say the woman is not also the glory of God? No. 2) No, rather since Eve was made from Adam's flesh and bone Adam's transgression applies to all humanity. Ada

Hosea 6:7 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii To subject yourself to one another simply means to submit to and serve one another's needs. Jesus demonstrated this when He humbled Himself to become a man and die on our behalf, washing the feet of Judas ...

@BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii To subject yourself to one another simply means to submit to and serve one another's needs. Jesus demonstrated this when He humbled Himself to become a man

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Thanks for the reply. Ephesians 5:21 says that we are to subject ourselves to one another; verse 22 doesn't contain the verb (it is implied). Therefore, what it cannot mean is that wives are hierarchicall...

@BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Thanks for the reply. Ephesians 5:21 says that we are to subject ourselves to one another; verse 22 doesn't contain the verb (it is implied). Therefore, w

Ephesians 5:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii That is precisely what the egalitarian view is.

@justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii That is precisely what the egalitarian view is. That there are no gender based hierarchy or authority structures promoted in the Bible for families and churches.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii 1) Both men and women were made in God's image! The woman, however, is both the glory of man and the glory of God since she was made from the man. 2) Adam's sin is important because he sinned with knowledge (Eve was decei...

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii 1) Both men and women were made in God's image! The woman, however, is both the glory of man and the glory of God since she was made from the man. 2) Adam's sin is importa

1 Tim 2:14 1 Tim 2:15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii Central to the 'in house' debate on this issue has to do with whet

@MikeWingerii Central to the 'in house' debate on this issue has to do with whether one side sees the other as 'in sin' and creating division over this (ie. the SBC kicking out churches who allow wome

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii As an egalitarian, I agree with points #1-4. I take issue with #5 because it says there is an inherent hierarchy and authority structure between the husband and wife and between males and females in the church. That said, if you do a ...

@MikeWingerii As an egalitarian, I agree with points #1-4. I take issue with #5 because it says there is an inherent hierarchy and authority structure between the husband and wife and between males a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@NateSchlomann For much of history, male authority over their wives was commonpl

@NateSchlomann For much of history, male authority over their wives was commonplace. Could we say the same that complementarians were just imbibing from the cultural water tap?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@rightresponsem For much of history, male authority over their wives was commonp

@rightresponsem For much of history, male authority over their wives was commonplace. Could we say the same that complementarians were just imbibing from the cultural water tap?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii @kamkorderx @jones_shaun Belleville’s excellent research on Authen

@MikeWingerii @kamkorderx @jones_shaun Belleville’s excellent research on Authentein is critical to this discussion. https://t.co/q2RauE3Gfv

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii Most of these are just guesses that don’t hold up. Egalitarians a

@MikeWingerii Most of these are just guesses that don’t hold up. Egalitarians are fundamentally on the right track but many guess on these hard passages. For a view that is consistent with all the d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii Although Belleville’s analysis of authentein and the lexical probl

@MikeWingerii Although Belleville’s analysis of authentein and the lexical problems with BDAG is sound, her interpretation of verse 12 still doesn’t make sense. For another view that I think works se

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@Cityguy2011 @_nomadic_soul @DrFrankTurek Our equality is based on our humanity.

@Cityguy2011 @_nomadic_soul @DrFrankTurek Our equality is based on our humanity. Women are not a different species! In the Genesis account, the woman was made from Adam’s flesh and bone indicating t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek I don't disagree with you, but we're talking about what Paul wrote and you seem to be avoiding admitting things I pointed out from Paul's text that are right in front of you. Once you ad...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek I don't disagree with you, but we're talking about what Paul wrote and you seem to be avoiding admitting things I pointed out from Paul's

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