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@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals That translation misses the force of Paul’s words… "What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?" (1Co 14:36, KJV). The fact is that the word came out from...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals That translation misses the force of Paul’s words… "What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?" (1Co 14:

1Co 14:36 question

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Not referring to Tom or Ron, but there sure have been a lot of people coming out of the woodwork and breathing fire on egalitarians. I had a guy tell me he would not block me over his dead b...

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Not referring to Tom or Ron, but there sure have been a lot of people coming out of the woodwork and breathing fire on egalitarians. I had a

@kriesese @pastherandie @ronhenzel @smashbaals Paul’s use of that idiom does not mean a married man…else Paul (and Timothy) would be excluded. By the same reasoning, neither is this excluding women. Paul did not say “must not be a woman,” but is sayi...

@kriesese @pastherandie @ronhenzel @smashbaals Paul’s use of that idiom does not mean a married man…else Paul (and Timothy) would be excluded. By the same reasoning, neither is this excluding women. P

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Well, no, it’

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Well, no, it’s just all these made up yard sticks that get defined by men who try their best to obey commands that the scripture isn’

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I don’t blame Ron and Tom for trying hard to find a way for the complementarian view to fit scripture. Hopefully one day they will see more clearly. Unfortunately, men don’t have a lot of mot...

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I don’t blame Ron and Tom for trying hard to find a way for the complementarian view to fit scripture. Hopefully one day they will see more c

@pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, but not in Ron or Tom’s chur

@pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, but not in Ron or Tom’s church…

@ElonHasNoPP @kriesese @smashbaals No, that’s not true. I’m simply contending wi

@ElonHasNoPP @kriesese @smashbaals No, that’s not true. I’m simply contending with some who are misreading Paul.

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Hey, all the best with whatever restrictions you place on the women in your church. At my church, we don’t want to suppress the holy spirit’s work. We even open up the mic, show a slide outlining...

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Hey, all the best with whatever restrictions you place on the women in your church. At my church, we don’t want to suppress the holy spirit’s work

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yeah…they were outside any

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yeah…they were outside any church buildings, right? 🙄

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Why define the “whole churc

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Why define the “whole church” as one congregation? Isn’t the whole church defined by all believers? Sigh….why do I see Pharisee written all over t

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes and so long as you understand my disagreement and pressing you is simply to challenge your views and not to force your church to do something they don’t think is right. You are applying aposto...

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes and so long as you understand my disagreement and pressing you is simply to challenge your views and not to force your church to do something t

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals All this means is that: - church is not setup for questions, so no one is asking them, or - women in your church have resigned themselves to never speaking in church and they either know how to suppress th...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals All this means is that: - church is not setup for questions, so no one is asking them, or - women in your church have resigned themselves to never speaking

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RT @DeeGoingsGirl: The honeymoon phase of our marriage ended with the literal ho

RT @DeeGoingsGirl: The honeymoon phase of our marriage ended with the literal honeymoon for me and evangelical marriage teaching on roles a…

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So church is to be like a dictators

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So church is to be like a dictatorship (for adult females)?

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So girls (not yet women), boys and

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So girls (not yet women), boys and men can all ask questions? Even in school, does asking questions in class show lack of submission? Maybe in a dictator

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron says that they could ask the elders—then why is that not what Paul says? Why are only the women guided to ask the elders and not everyone? Tom, you say that Paul just wants to say that the questions s...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron says that they could ask the elders—then why is that not what Paul says? Why are only the women guided to ask the elders and not everyone? Tom, you sa

@LukeMasonVO @kriesese @smashbaals I’m actually asking them to people like you who should be better at reading Paul. Does Paul say non-sensical things? Does he contradict himself even in the very same portion of text (see 1Co 14:31 which says that al...

@LukeMasonVO @kriesese @smashbaals I’m actually asking them to people like you who should be better at reading Paul. Does Paul say non-sensical things? Does he contradict himself even in the very same

1Co 14:31 question

@kriesese @smashbaals V34-35 are Paul quoting and responding to the Corinthian l

@kriesese @smashbaals V34-35 are Paul quoting and responding to the Corinthian letter (1Co 7:1) https://t.co/WHlrSQuDIp

1Co 7:1 general

@SKokenos @smashbaals A disciple will eventually be a discipler of others. Whether or not they become full time pastors or not is not the concern. There are no limitations except those based on character and being sound in the faith. Even Moses sai...

@SKokenos @smashbaals A disciple will eventually be a discipler of others. Whether or not they become full time pastors or not is not the concern. There are no limitations except those based on chara

@kriesese @smashbaals The women are to keep silent? What about the single ones and the widows who don’t have husbands? What about those whose husbands are unbelievers? What about those whose husbands know less than them? “For you can all prophesy on...

@kriesese @smashbaals The women are to keep silent? What about the single ones and the widows who don’t have husbands? What about those whose husbands are unbelievers? What about those whose husbands

@SKokenos @smashbaals Jesus didn’t choose any Gentile apostles either. Matt 28:18-20 tells them to make disciples of all nations “teaching them to follow all that I commanded you”—so if Jesus commanded his apostles to go and preach then those whom t...

@SKokenos @smashbaals Jesus didn’t choose any Gentile apostles either. Matt 28:18-20 tells them to make disciples of all nations “teaching them to follow all that I commanded you”—so if Jesus command

Matt 28:18-20 general

@smashbaals Then why do you believe that a woman is forbidden from serving as a

@smashbaals Then why do you believe that a woman is forbidden from serving as a pastor?

@carol66944 Why do you frame the opposing view as a "one-off marital dispute of

@carol66944 Why do you frame the opposing view as a "one-off marital dispute of usurping"? Are you referring to my view or that of someone else? I don't believe that authentein means "usurping authori

@KatKanada_TM @MikeWingerii I suspect you didn’t check up his quotes from egalit

@KatKanada_TM @MikeWingerii I suspect you didn’t check up his quotes from egalitarian sources, did you?

@KylePierce96 @Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii Yes, absolutely. Calvinists are my b

@KylePierce96 @Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii Yes, absolutely. Calvinists are my brothers in Christ as much as are complementarians. I am currently part of a reformed church.

RT @Emotionscoach: My ( egalitarian) response to MikeWinger’s statement that ega

RT @Emotionscoach: My ( egalitarian) response to MikeWinger’s statement that egalitarians need to repent for their teaching that is doing h…

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @ewarner88 @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Thanks. I only had to spend $11 this time to read the context. Collins himself admits that the wayyiqtol normally implies: "Genesis 2:19 seems to...

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @ewarner88 @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Thanks. I only had to spend $11 this time to read the context. Collins himself admits that the wayyi

Genesis 2:19 commentary

@ewarner88 @ronhenzel @pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotr

@ewarner88 @ronhenzel @pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Genesis is not history? I’m convinced that God actually wrote at least those first chapters of Genesi

@pastherandie @JohnGal63607182 @ryancduff @Whi79226Anthony @MikeWingerii It’s because he believes it harms the complementarian view that gender roles are to represent Christ and the church. He thinks there is a one way submission in that relationship...

@pastherandie @JohnGal63607182 @ryancduff @Whi79226Anthony @MikeWingerii It’s because he believes it harms the complementarian view that gender roles are to represent Christ and the church. He thinks

RT @AverageSc0t: Let's settle this: Has @MikeWingerii generally treat egalitari

RT @AverageSc0t: Let's settle this: Has @MikeWingerii generally treat egalitarian positions fairly, charitably, and accurately in his crit…

@garlicmofongo @brianaxelm Exactly. The best for hearers is to hear point and counterpoint. The church is meant to interact and not just monologue. I’ll be working on that with the remainder of Mike’s series, trying to find the time and the energy to...

@garlicmofongo @brianaxelm Exactly. The best for hearers is to hear point and counterpoint. The church is meant to interact and not just monologue. I’ll be working on that with the remainder of Mike’s

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii Probably the most egregious error with Mike Winger’s conclusion is how he has decided to present egalitarian teachings as something to repent of and which are so dangerous that he advises his followers to leave their egalit...

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii Probably the most egregious error with Mike Winger’s conclusion is how he has decided to present egalitarian teachings as something to repent of and which are so dangerous t

@ymmotrojam @914Ann Appreciate your tone, Tom. You are always gracious and are an example. The passage says that women need to be silent and ask their husbands at home. What about single women, widows, women with unbelieving husbands or husbands tha...

@ymmotrojam @914Ann Appreciate your tone, Tom. You are always gracious and are an example. The passage says that women need to be silent and ask their husbands at home. What about single women, widow

@Whi79226Anthony @ryancduff @MikeWingerii Please tell me how I’m sinning? My marriage is egalitarian. Mike says he doesn’t force his wife but they either come to consensus or delay the decision. That’s how egalitarian marriage works. How is my egali...

@Whi79226Anthony @ryancduff @MikeWingerii Please tell me how I’m sinning? My marriage is egalitarian. Mike says he doesn’t force his wife but they either come to consensus or delay the decision. That

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii I watched all 43 hours. I saw Mike misrepresenting egalitarian scholars frequently. It seemed like he got to a point where he got really frustrated as he found some issues that didn’t sit right with him and then he took aim...

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii I watched all 43 hours. I saw Mike misrepresenting egalitarian scholars frequently. It seemed like he got to a point where he got really frustrated as he found some issues t

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii To me—the call for egalitarians that share their views to repent and those who attend egalitarian churches to leave loudly needs a blowhorn. It is like lobbing a grenade at the church and walking away. He says it’s secondar...

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii To me—the call for egalitarians that share their views to repent and those who attend egalitarian churches to leave loudly needs a blowhorn. It is like lobbing a grenade at

@Whi79226Anthony @MikeWingerii Nothing to do with hurt feelings—Mike has lobbed a grenade at the church and walked away by telling those who disagree with him on secondary matters that they have to repent and recommending others who agree with him to...

@Whi79226Anthony @MikeWingerii Nothing to do with hurt feelings—Mike has lobbed a grenade at the church and walked away by telling those who disagree with him on secondary matters that they have to re

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii I already noted in a personal appeal to Mike that he can remain a complementarian. What he cannot do, however, is call fellow believers to repent over secondary matters, pressing his conscience on others who disagree with h...

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii I already noted in a personal appeal to Mike that he can remain a complementarian. What he cannot do, however, is call fellow believers to repent over secondary matters, pre

@freemarketeer1 @DustyMayT @MikeWingerii What is a gross mischaracterization? Women are to be subordinate in the church in that if they feel called to teach (the authoritative scripture) or serve as a pastor, they have to remain subordinate to men (i...

@freemarketeer1 @DustyMayT @MikeWingerii What is a gross mischaracterization? Women are to be subordinate in the church in that if they feel called to teach (the authoritative scripture) or serve as a

@MateoChenta @MikeWingerii Mateo—respectfully, we don’t fellowship with people who are in unrepentant sin—not even to eat with them. But Mike says it is secondary and states clearly that egalitarians are his brothers and sisters in Christ. He wants ...

@MateoChenta @MikeWingerii Mateo—respectfully, we don’t fellowship with people who are in unrepentant sin—not even to eat with them. But Mike says it is secondary and states clearly that egalitarians

@DustyMayT @MikeWingerii Mike replied to someone else’s question about how he se

@DustyMayT @MikeWingerii Mike replied to someone else’s question about how he sees the difference between egalitarians and Calvinists in q10 of his last 10 questions video. I will be responding to hi

@BlueGiant42 @MikeWingerii Mike is considered by a pastor by many of his audience of nearly 700k on YouTube. He is the most popular level advocate today for complementarian teaching. That in itself is fine—he is allowed to hold his own views on thing...

@BlueGiant42 @MikeWingerii Mike is considered by a pastor by many of his audience of nearly 700k on YouTube. He is the most popular level advocate today for complementarian teaching. That in itself is

@JustinPickerel @MikeWingerii Justin, respectfully—no. Everyone has something incorrect. We need to be convinced that we are wrong, and this is a secondary doctrine just like Calvinism. Mike thinks it has greater impact because in his opinion it affe...

@JustinPickerel @MikeWingerii Justin, respectfully—no. Everyone has something incorrect. We need to be convinced that we are wrong, and this is a secondary doctrine just like Calvinism. Mike thinks it

@Valiant12312 @MikeWingerii Jeremiah—respectfully, you cannot continue in unrepe

@Valiant12312 @MikeWingerii Jeremiah—respectfully, you cannot continue in unrepentant sin and remain in Christian community. Mike literally dropped a grenade on the church and walked out “cause I got

@MikeWingerii Mike, you called Egalitarians “who tell people about the teaching” to repent. One repents of sins. You can’t do that, Mike—you said yourself this is secondary. You certainly can hold to your complementarian views—even though I disagree...

@MikeWingerii Mike, you called Egalitarians “who tell people about the teaching” to repent. One repents of sins. You can’t do that, Mike—you said yourself this is secondary. You certainly can hold to

@JustinPickerel @MikeWingerii Because he said it was secondary and then told us

@JustinPickerel @MikeWingerii Because he said it was secondary and then told us to repent of teaching it which means it’s a sin—which is not secondary. So which is it??

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@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotr

@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I think God left the original statement out of the text to challenge Complementarians and Patriarchal

@MikeWingerii You definitely gave us your opinion for 43 hours. But then when yo

@MikeWingerii You definitely gave us your opinion for 43 hours. But then when you are challenged by someone who knows what they are talking about, you don’t respond. Can we start with your call for eg

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @ewarner88 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Male covenantal headship is being read into the account. All that the account states is that Adam was created first in time sequence and therefore expe...

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @ewarner88 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Male covenantal headship is being read into the account. All that the account states is that Adam was

@TheJayHemingway @Randynafso999 Yes, this is why it’s important to show people w

@TheJayHemingway @Randynafso999 Yes, this is why it’s important to show people what the Bible actually teaches.