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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@IceBucketsIBCM Yes, I totally agree that all of scripture is God-breathed! Yes,

@IceBucketsIBCM Yes, I totally agree that all of scripture is God-breathed! Yes, keep going back to what is written, absolutely! I'm not rejecting any of it.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@IceBucketsIBCM Here's a rough idea how I parse out 1Ti 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9 loo

@IceBucketsIBCM Here's a rough idea how I parse out 1Ti 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9 looking for Paul's intended meaning. https://t.co/QkexDUhLnJ

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@IceBucketsIBCM I'm not resisting God's word, though I do disagree with the complementarian version which has women being prohibited from places of leadership or "authoritative teaching" (whatever exactly that is...I think Mike thinks this is the tea...

@IceBucketsIBCM I'm not resisting God's word, though I do disagree with the complementarian version which has women being prohibited from places of leadership or "authoritative teaching" (whatever exa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@peace_got @AngEngland @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @

@peace_got @AngEngland @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii There's no basis for that idea in the OT. A Berean would have to question Paul a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Really? Which translation are you getting that from? Is there an imperative for the command ('must not')? To exclude females, he would have to say "must not be a woman." It's not there...or anywhere. Here...

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Really? Which translation are you getting that from? Is there an imperative for the command ('must not')? To exclude females, he would have to say "must no

@IceBucketsIBCM Yes, I totally agree that all of scripture is God-breathed! Yes,

@IceBucketsIBCM Here's a rough idea how I parse out 1Ti 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9 loo

@IceBucketsIBCM I'm not resisting God's word, though I do disagree with the complementarian version which has women being prohibited from places of leadership or "authoritative teaching" (whatever exactly that is...I think Mike thinks this is the tea...

@peace_got @AngEngland @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Really? Which translation are you getting that from? Is there an imperative for the command ('must not')? To exclude females, he would have to say "must not be a woman." It's not there...or anywhere. Here...

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii It is fairly normal in language to use the male construction if including both male and female. I can show you examples where aner, the word for male/husband is used to refer to person or people. To exclu...

@EtAbundatGratia @BarnabasBr30151 @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Actually, I’m more

@EtAbundatGratia @BarnabasBr30151 @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii A woman cannot be a husband and no one should be confusing between male and female. Yet just as Paul wasn’t a husband and still qualifies, this shows it’s not about male/female but about f...

@onegospel2021 @joyklaprade If you go by the Bible, you are wrong. I am not usin

@GyolaNevada @MikeWingerii It depends on why they went there. If they saw direct prohibitions on women and decided to disregard the Bible, then that bodes for more disregarding of the Bible. This is why it is important to for elders to really study a...

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii No circles required, just toleration

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii I said living at peace. That doesn’t

@pauldirks @JonKismetCalvin @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @pastherandie @5pur5y @Char

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii Right, it’s your church. But I’m a man and I’m asking what you would restrict me from in your church given I believe the scripture is egalitarian in the involvement of women in leadership. I can live at peac...

@Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Mike isn’t patriarchal. But I think I hear what you are saying that there is a patriarchal spirit behind these restrictions, so I’d agree with that. Without his call for egalitarians to repent and recommendation to loudly...

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii This is your interpretation on a deba

@peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @MargMowczko @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii There’s no imperative. The context is personal instruction to Timothy on how to deal with an unnamed woman teaching false doctrine. Paul doesn...

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii The WCF says nothing about women and leadership. I’d be willing to live at peace within the context of a complementarian church as I have for many years (which means I may share my views on certain passages but not in a divi...

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii Would you bar me from becoming a member at your church

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Paul was an overseer and wasn’t a h

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii I will worship with you. If I came to your church, wou

@peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @MargMowczko @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Actually, authority to lead and teach comes directly from Jesus and is given to all in Matt 28:18-20. Leaders in the church must have characte...

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii No, I have absolutely no problem with God’s Word. And

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii Where’s the command? 1Ti 2:12? That verse doesn’t even

@onegospel2021 @MikeWingerii Pathetic? This is not about sin. It is secondary, like Calvinism. Where is a godly woman teaching truth or pastoring ever called a sin? Where is it listed in any list of sins? Your claim is thoroughly and completely unju...

@mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Thanks for sharing your disagreement. I totally agree that scripture is true and should be treated as fully inspired in every word (even the grammar). Taken in context and rightly divided, we can fully trust the Bible for...

@ncksmith @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Mike sees male-only leadership as simply a matter of ordained order. He learns from women theologians, behaves in an egalitarian manner towards decision making with his wife, and is generally wanting women to pa...

It has now been 11 days since my response to @MikeWingerii’s last video in his Women in Ministry series and 3 since my appeal below. I thought I’d record myself for you Mike so you’d get to hear my tone and appeal in a way that may be easier for you...

@JonKismetCalvin @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Based on as charitable a reading as I can make for Mike, to him this is about following God’s order even if it might not make sense. He claims to...

@JonKismetCalvin @peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Mike still listens to women which is great. He just thinks that God wants there to be an authority ranking between male and female and only males...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii James also appears to ignore 1T 1. Why does he start at chapter 2? He also fails to see how his view of Paul’s teaching would be substantiated in the Old Testamen...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii He also said 1Ti 3:15 was about how “one ought to behave” but the context shows clearly that Paul is showing Timothy how *he* ought to behave to deal with the fal...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii That’s a complete misrepresentation. You are assuming your view to disprove mine. Again, I don’t expect you to become egalitarian. Just the modest goal of not sa...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii I’m sure there are people who demote Paul as you say, but I don’t and I’m fully egalitarian. I put that video from James White on my list of things to respond to ...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@ronhenzel @JollyStine On what basis is there not husband and wife in view in v1

@ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@pastherandie @peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii I don’t follow Beth Moore and her argument denigrates scripture and the inspiration of God. "He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii The original purpose of this thread was not to convert you to an egalitarian. It was asking comps to not treat us as in rebellion to God and to not divide our chu...

@pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Elders are servants not masters to be served. Qualifying is related to character and ability. The only difference between elder and deacon is the ability to teac...

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii The difference is if it bothered

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii I share a bit of my story i

@bezalelplace @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The thinking of these pastors is that there are other churches that believed like me. But I said I wanted to go to their church. They seemed faithful to the word and there are more things to consid...

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Ok, now I'm curious. I'd really like to understand your position. So only men can be pastors and leaders, so their is a hierarchy between leaders and congregants, right? Then only leaders can exer...

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii A third church I went to said the same thing. Loved the pastor and associate and the people. But he rather focused on Calvinism as I'm also not a Calvinist, so his concern was that I didn't share h...

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii As I was looking for another church, I asked the pastor if he was ok with someone who is egalitarian. Would he allow me to lead in some capacity or would I never lead anything. He said the latter, ...

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Not true. My last church had a mix of comp and egal. They only allowed men as lead pastor. I didn't agree with it, but tolerated it as a secondary issue. Egal is NOT the central issue. If it bothered m...

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@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii He also said 1Ti 3:15 was about how “one ought to behave” but the context shows clearly that Paul is showing Timothy how he ought to behave to deal with the fal...