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@deadtosin610 @JollyStine If every mature brother and sister desired to be an el

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine If every mature brother and sister desired to be an elder, I'd be expecting a revival to be on the verge...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine The "elect woman" is the church and the children is th

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine The "elect woman" is the church and the children is the church? That doesn't sound right.

@deadtosin610 @will_servant Was Paul⎯an overseer and apostle⎯the husband of one

@deadtosin610 @will_servant Was Paul⎯an overseer and apostle⎯the husband of one wife?

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It seems that overseer (episkopos) and elder (presbyte...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It s

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-35, but we don't know who they all are. He doesn't call them men.

Ac 20:17-35 debate

@deadtosin610 First, if the Bible doesn't "speak against" godly women pastoring, then they are not being encouraged to sin, right? I understand if you believe that men should be pastors and do it that way in your church, but you should not be thinki...

@deadtosin610 First, if the Bible doesn't "speak against" godly women pastoring, then they are not being encouraged to sin, right? I understand if you believe that men should be pastors and do it tha

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Please show me which males are called pastors in the New Testament so we can see how many are called this and determine whether women were not called pastors. Answer: No one is called a pastor. Jesus is called the chief She...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Please show me which males are called pastors in the New Testament so we can see how many are called this and determine whether women were not called pastors. Answer: No one

1Pe 5:4 general

Titus 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1 1Ti 3:1-13 debate

@deadtosin610 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 are often mistakenly thought to forbid women from being overseers. However, the only phrase that people base this on is the idiom "one-wife-husband" used for elders and deacons. A neutral pronoun is used, "tis...

@deadtosin610 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 are often mistakenly thought to forbid women from being overseers. However, the only phrase that people base this on is the idiom "one-wife-husband" used for e

@SKokenos @deadtosin610 Well, I did give a pretty thorough exegesis and you repl

@SKokenos @deadtosin610 Well, I did give a pretty thorough exegesis and you replied by switching the subject to another point. Was there something in my exegesis which you thought wasn't correct befor

1Co 11:3 question

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii 1Ti 2:15 says “the” childbearing (noun), not the verb, so it’s referring to a thing, not an action. 1Ti 4:3 talks about those who were forbidding marriage. But this does not seem to talk about s3x in marriage. P...

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii 1Ti 2:15 says “the” childbearing (noun), not the verb, so it’s referring to a thing, not an action. 1Ti 4:3 talks about those who were forbidding marriage. But t

1Ti 2:15 1Ti 4:3 debate

@st_gooby Allowing godly women to preach or teach true doctrine is apostasy? Sur

@st_gooby Allowing godly women to preach or teach true doctrine is apostasy? Surely you jest…

@AnonyNonni @OperHealAmerica We can get very used to only seeing men in certain roles that when a woman does it, it can feel wrong or out of place. But our feelings are not what ultimately should guide us. If the Bible doesn't prohibit a woman from b...

@AnonyNonni @OperHealAmerica We can get very used to only seeing men in certain roles that when a woman does it, it can feel wrong or out of place. But our feelings are not what ultimately should guid

@RahabTheHarlot2 @OperHealAmerica OHA says a teacher and office of overseer are very different. I asked, "In what way?" Overseers are to be able to teach and have sound character and a life consistent with the teachings...and of course desire to serv...

@RahabTheHarlot2 @OperHealAmerica OHA says a teacher and office of overseer are very different. I asked, "In what way?" Overseers are to be able to teach and have sound character and a life consistent

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I realize that abstaining from marriage would evidently be abstaining from s3x. But where in the text do you draw the conclusion that married women were abstaining from s3x with their husbands? I'm referring to t...

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I realize that abstaining from marriage would evidently be abstaining from s3x. But where in the text do you draw the conclusion that married women were abstainin

@deadtosin610 Teaching false doctrine through her behaviour? I honestly haven't

@deadtosin610 Teaching false doctrine through her behaviour? I honestly haven't heard anyone say that before. However, if 1Ti 2:12 has nothing to do with a godly woman teaching true doctrine, then ma

1Ti 2:12 debate

Titus 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1-13 general

@OperHealAmerica 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 do not prohibit women from being eld

@OperHealAmerica 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 do not prohibit women from being elders or overseers. https://t.co/QkexDUhLnJ

@OperHealAmerica @Gary5040390811 How is this a primary matter where you need to divide from your church? Where is a godly woman leading a church into truth ever considered a sin in scripture? Wasn't Paul writing to Timothy to stop "certain people" fr...

@OperHealAmerica @Gary5040390811 How is this a primary matter where you need to divide from your church? Where is a godly woman leading a church into truth ever considered a sin in scripture? Wasn't P

1Ti 1:3 question

@cuelove2u @OperHealAmerica What does it mean to you to have authority over men?

@cuelove2u @OperHealAmerica What does it mean to you to have authority over men? Do you think that a man can have "authentein" (the unique word translated "exercise authority" in 1Ti 2:12) over anyone

1Ti 2:12 debate

@OperHealAmerica @RahabTheHarlot2 In what way precisely? So a woman can all her

@OperHealAmerica @RahabTheHarlot2 In what way precisely? So a woman can all her life be the voice of God to people by giving instruction to the king and judging matters and giving prophecies, but cann

@OperHealAmerica The Bible does not forbid women from being pastors or elders. h

@OperHealAmerica The Bible does not forbid women from being pastors or elders. https://t.co/zgtqLeTHX9

@KodeshStorm @MikeWingerii Anything that we believe that is not true has some level of negative impact. But not all untruths constitute sin. The way you demark between what is sin and what isn't is whether it is a primary matter or secondary. The Bi...

@KodeshStorm @MikeWingerii Anything that we believe that is not true has some level of negative impact. But not all untruths constitute sin. The way you demark between what is sin and what isn't is wh

@Ichthusproject @JollyStine @will_servant @pastherandie @Crystalisives @CherylSc

@Ichthusproject @JollyStine @will_servant @pastherandie @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Are you referring to gender hierarchy and authority structures? If so, I agree!

@FreeAmongDead @smashbaals Deborah was usurping authority by telling Barak what

@FreeAmongDead @smashbaals Deborah was usurping authority by telling Barak what to do and being a faithful judge over Israel? She was never criticized in scripture and God appointed her and Barak was

@Crystalisives @pastherandie @Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Mike does seem to consider this as he basically says that he wouldn't force his wife and would try to come to agreement or not move forward. Sounds egalitarian to m...

@Crystalisives @pastherandie @Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Mike does seem to consider this as he basically says that he wouldn't force his wife and would try to come to agre

commentary

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Abstaining from marriage, not sex. Love y

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Abstaining from marriage, not sex. Love you sister, but I am not convinced this is the false teaching Paul was addressing.

@MikeWingerii This Bible is suspect from the name. But the fact they put revelat

@MikeWingerii This Bible is suspect from the name. But the fact they put revelations in the plural or used devine instead of divine seems like editorial mistakes. The serious mistakes are what I'd foc

@BiblesForFree @MikeWingerii Thus the "Cliff" style notes that I created, with e

@BiblesForFree @MikeWingerii Thus the "Cliff" style notes that I created, with egalitarian responses. Hope you can find them helpful.

@Disco_Missiles @MikeWingerii No, this is where Mike went off. Egalitarians have

@Disco_Missiles @MikeWingerii No, this is where Mike went off. Egalitarians have an issue with the complementarian view, not with "Biblical Christianity." We think the Bible teaches an egalitarian app

@KimberleeJayneW I'm not sure I know anyone who sees pastoral work as a physical job of taking a stick to wolves. Are you suggesting that if a woman was the pastor, that a beefy male-wolf would force his way in the front door and take over the church...

@KimberleeJayneW I'm not sure I know anyone who sees pastoral work as a physical job of taking a stick to wolves. Are you suggesting that if a woman was the pastor, that a beefy male-wolf would force

@Ichthusproject @pastherandie @jdpritchett @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I’m egali

@Ichthusproject @pastherandie @jdpritchett @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I’m egalitarian.

@JJacobs63985241 @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @jdpritchett @MikeWi

@JJacobs63985241 @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Haha... well, I wasn't referring to sexual unions. I was meaning exclusively male leadership groups (like elder c

@RoyGoorman @MikeWingerii Teaching something that's false doesn't make you a fal

@RoyGoorman @MikeWingerii Teaching something that's false doesn't make you a false teacher unless its on a primary matter (nature of God, the gospel, matters of sin, etc.). You are imagining that mal

@rofbethany How is it not a secondary issue? You even disagree with Mike, a comp

@rofbethany How is it not a secondary issue? You even disagree with Mike, a complementarian. God's judgment is not heavy upon us because of God's gifting and calling on godly women to pastor churches

@RoyGoorman @MikeWingerii Do you have your theology 100% perfect? I'd argue that everyone likely has some amount of false beliefs that they are just likely unaware of (or they'd fix them). In this case, I have studied it carefully. To say that egal ...

@RoyGoorman @MikeWingerii Do you have your theology 100% perfect? I'd argue that everyone likely has some amount of false beliefs that they are just likely unaware of (or they'd fix them). In this ca

@immrwatcher Treating women equally and fairly harms the church and society? Wha

@immrwatcher Treating women equally and fairly harms the church and society? What are you smoking? Ok, let's take a look at what Mike actually said and how I respond to it. https://t.co/fcFc4OQ7AX

@donnadhoward Well, I'd love to find all the egalitarians too. I would like to e

@donnadhoward Well, I'd love to find all the egalitarians too. I would like to encourage them and show them how they are not disobeying God in these passages.

@B_Christs_Amb No one is calling 'biblical' marriages harmful as that presumes t

@B_Christs_Amb No one is calling 'biblical' marriages harmful as that presumes that the complementarian view is the biblical view. We are contesting that. Our disagreement is with complementarians, no

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD Sorry, where does he say "must not be a woman" or "must be a man"? Doesn't he use the same idiom "one-wife-husband" which is easily shown does not mean married since Paul ...

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD Sorry, where does he say "must not be a woman" or "must be a man"? Doesn't he use the same idiom "one-wife-husband" which

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD "a woman" is not always specific, but since the article is used with the noun in v14, this anaphorically indicates that the "a woman" is a specific woman. Paul said in 1Ti...

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD "a woman" is not always specific, but since the article is used with the noun in v14, this anaphorically indicates that t

1Ti 1:3 debate

@SHromyk_ Is this a matter of how much time one spends doing something? I have spent more time studying this than him, but that's not why I'm right. I'm right because the scripture agrees with me. Mike says this is secondary. So he cannot then go an...

@SHromyk_ Is this a matter of how much time one spends doing something? I have spent more time studying this than him, but that's not why I'm right. I'm right because the scripture agrees with me. Mi

@brianaxelm I appreciate that you are free to agree with Mike. What is unacceptable is to claim I'm sinning by disagreeing with him on something he stated was secondary. Mike is claiming that egalitarians are doing "great harm" to the church by the ...

@brianaxelm I appreciate that you are free to agree with Mike. What is unacceptable is to claim I'm sinning by disagreeing with him on something he stated was secondary. Mike is claiming that egalita

@biblemarriages The standard for leaders is monogomy. If a man has two wives pr

@biblemarriages The standard for leaders is monogomy. If a man has two wives prior to accepting Christ and they all become believers, is he to divorce one?

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m also not ignoring apostolic teac

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m also not ignoring apostolic teaching. However, I am not taking church history after the apostles as inspired and binding. #SolaScriptura

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m not setting aside any command of scripture. But I’m rejecting your faulty interpretation on biblical grounds. Even on your view, 1Ti 2:12 doesn’t have an imperative so how do you establish it as a comma...

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m not setting aside any command of scripture. But I’m rejecting your faulty interpretation on biblical grounds. Even on your view, 1Ti 2:12 doesn’t have a

1Ti 2:12 debate

@someguy0474 @DMurzea @MikeWingerii There is no disobedience to God. That is all

@someguy0474 @DMurzea @MikeWingerii There is no disobedience to God. That is all just a strawman assuming complementarian is the Biblical model, but that is what we are contesting! https://t.co/xmm4QI

@Oliverm05363868 @DMurzea @MikeWingerii But he calls egalitarians to repent of t

@Oliverm05363868 @DMurzea @MikeWingerii But he calls egalitarians to repent of their teachings. That's not what you do for secondary differences like Calvinism and Arminianism.

@SJWormer @DMurzea @MikeWingerii But the contention is the Bible does NOT prohib

@SJWormer @DMurzea @MikeWingerii But the contention is the Bible does NOT prohibit it. https://t.co/xmm4QIey8Q

@MackDonahue @Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii I do not believe that my egalitarian stance is unbiblical because I do not believe that "biblical marriage" is complementarian⎯which does not mean I'm erasing male and female, just that I don't believe the ...

@MackDonahue @Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii I do not believe that my egalitarian stance is unbiblical because I do not believe that "biblical marriage" is complementarian⎯which does not mean I'm erasi

@ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The scripture does not explicitly prohibit "women" from teaching others unless they are teaching "strange doctrines." Nowhere does Paul ever prohibit a godly woman from teaching truth to others including men. To do so would ...

@ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The scripture does not explicitly prohibit "women" from teaching others unless they are teaching "strange doctrines." Nowhere does Paul ever prohibit a godly woman from teach

Matt 28:18-20 general

@MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies You certainly detailed the reason why you take your position, so no, you are not trying to say that it is because of your position or title or authority that you are taking a particular stance. This seems clear. But I s...

@MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies You certainly detailed the reason why you take your position, so no, you are not trying to say that it is because of your position or title or authority that you are taki