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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-04

@JustinH31123559 You are welcome! I really want to bring peace to this issue, so

@JustinH31123559 You are welcome! I really want to bring peace to this issue, so I'm trying hard to fairly represent Mike on his points and highlight the inconsistencies. I really hope it helps the br

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-04

@CharmyRosewolf He does encourage people to check him and says several times tha

@CharmyRosewolf He does encourage people to check him and says several times that he is not the authority, but it sure doesn't seem this way in his conclusions. The last video made this really clear t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-04

@mvpompa @ryancduff Again, it's about calling for wisdom and grace for those who

@mvpompa @ryancduff Again, it's about calling for wisdom and grace for those who are trying to figure out how to apply complementarian and patriarchal views, not for dealing with egalitarians.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-04

This is exactly my sense of what Mike has said about Egalitarians over his serie

This is exactly my sense of what Mike has said about Egalitarians over his series. https://t.co/qrLE2JYlER

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-04

@mvpompa @ryancduff Mike's concern for wisdom and grace seems to be related to what he refers to as 'the difficult questions,' ie. whether a mom can continue to teach her now adult son, or whether a woman can teach on a Wednesday evening meeting, or ...

@mvpompa @ryancduff Mike's concern for wisdom and grace seems to be related to what he refers to as 'the difficult questions,' ie. whether a mom can continue to teach her now adult son, or whether a w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@mvpompa First, he said it was a secondary issue. You only repent of sins. If I

@mvpompa First, he said it was a secondary issue. You only repent of sins. If I sincerely hold to a conviction based on scripture that the Bible doesn’t restrict women and that there is no hierarchy o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@MikeWingerii Want to hear an egalitarian response to this video? https://t.co/q

@MikeWingerii Want to hear an egalitarian response to this video? https://t.co/qtZ7AtuyBE

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@914Ann I think Mike would agree with you. But having a position of authority on

@914Ann I think Mike would agree with you. But having a position of authority only really matters when it comes time to force your will, when there’s a disagreement. The trump card only solves the pro

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@Peacemaker811 @MikeWingerii Well, I guess a woman cannot teach heresy…but I’m s

@Peacemaker811 @MikeWingerii Well, I guess a woman cannot teach heresy…but I’m sure Mike would agree that men can’t either. So even equal in that one without a 1Tim 2:12 for men. 🤷‍♂️

1Tim 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@RealKiraDavis Care to hear an egalitarian response? https://t.co/qtZ7AtuyBE

@RealKiraDavis Care to hear an egalitarian response? https://t.co/qtZ7AtuyBE

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@Markbhere2 Interested in an egalitarian response? https://t.co/qtZ7AtuyBE

@Markbhere2 Interested in an egalitarian response? https://t.co/qtZ7AtuyBE

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@CherylSchatz @MaineMinistry @MikeWingerii If only it took less time to post my

@CherylSchatz @MaineMinistry @MikeWingerii If only it took less time to post my notes here as it did to watch the video... https://t.co/pjtyaYfmRY

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

This is a secondary issue and therefore, it should be treated as secondary, and

This is a secondary issue and therefore, it should be treated as secondary, and Mike has unfortunately not handled this issue in a gracious manner towards egalitarians. /105

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, “I wish there wasn’t such division and disagreement on this topic” [4

Mike says, “I wish there wasn’t such division and disagreement on this topic” [4:18:43] However, Mike is perpetuating the division by accusing egalitarians of causing great harm to the church and cal

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike speaks to women pastors who he advises to step down, to honour God, to make

Mike speaks to women pastors who he advises to step down, to honour God, to make the required change, and respond to what God has revealed through his extensive video series. [4:16:00] /102

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Egalitarians are appealing to scripture. The only thing that they are throwing u

Egalitarians are appealing to scripture. The only thing that they are throwing under the bus is the idea that the Bible teaches there is authority hierarchy between male and female. And that is on scr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says “Christians have got to get back to the Bible on this issue…not throwi

Mike says “Christians have got to get back to the Bible on this issue…not throwing marriage and ministry roles under the bus” [4:14:42] /100

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

It is because in the evangelical church they are vilified and put down and accus

It is because in the evangelical church they are vilified and put down and accused of sin. It is amazing there are any women who would allow themselves to be in a position of being accused of sin. Man

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

To call it sin without evidence of a sin is actually forcing his own conscience

To call it sin without evidence of a sin is actually forcing his own conscience onto others. He is holding back women and is therefore himself part of the problem. People wonder why there are not more

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Yet time after time in this video, Mike has shown example after example of women

Yet time after time in this video, Mike has shown example after example of women who did things that appear to be authoritative to which the scripture does not even comment in any negative way about.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

But it is he who has said that egalitarians are not obeying God. Mike calls ega

But it is he who has said that egalitarians are not obeying God. Mike calls egalitarians to repent [4:12:35]. Again, you don't repent of something unless it is a sin. And if we are in sin, then this

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike himself admits he leans more towards freedom in practice which is more egal

Mike himself admits he leans more towards freedom in practice which is more egalitarian, yet he believes egals are doing great harm. He doesn't like how egals view comp control. He feels that the wor

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, “Egalitarians are doing great harm to the church” and calls egalitari

Mike says, “Egalitarians are doing great harm to the church” and calls egalitarians to repent of spreading their views [4:10:30]. This is completely uncalled for! If this is a secondary issue, how c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

If there is even one instance where a woman can speak with authority, then Mike'

If there is even one instance where a woman can speak with authority, then Mike's argument absolutely breaks down. /93

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Can a woman not speak with authority that if you repent and believe the gospel,

Can a woman not speak with authority that if you repent and believe the gospel, you will be saved? Does she have to continually defer to a pastor for such things? We have to think about what that spea

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, “women should be involved in everything that isn’t functioning as an

Mike says, “women should be involved in everything that isn’t functioning as an elder does in teaching authority” [4:06:43] /90

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, "there’s one thing a woman cannot do…is be a man” [4:03:20] Mike see

Mike says, "there’s one thing a woman cannot do…is be a man” [4:03:20] Mike sees man and elder as equal, that man is special creation at least when it comes to this life. He has no real explanation f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike lists a bunch of influential Biblical women acknowledging that they were ve

Mike lists a bunch of influential Biblical women acknowledging that they were very influential but then says that influence is not the same as Eldership. He says that women should teach and lead but

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says “I don’t think husbands are to be seen as the priest of their wives” [

Mike says “I don’t think husbands are to be seen as the priest of their wives” [3:54:52] While this is a great point, in practice he makes husbands as the decision makers⎯the final decision makers⎯in

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Seems to me that men are responsible for women feeling restricted. Paul’s practi

Seems to me that men are responsible for women feeling restricted. Paul’s practice was never to restrict a godly woman. Instead, Paul restricted false teaching, never true teaching. /84

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Because if it was a sin, then the Bible would clearly outline what is and what i

Because if it was a sin, then the Bible would clearly outline what is and what is not allowed. "God is not a God of disorder, but of peace" (1Co 14:33). Despite the lack of clarity on these policies

1Co 14:33 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, “It is interesting that the New Testament doesn’t give us clear polic

Mike says, “It is interesting that the New Testament doesn’t give us clear policies (ie. on when women can’t speak)” [3:47:50] Indeed. Does it not occur that it might be b/c there is no gender author

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Why then is he so hard on Egalitarians who really only slightly differ with him

Why then is he so hard on Egalitarians who really only slightly differ with him in not limiting women from speaking the Word of God as it truly is? Look at what confusion arises when you make authori

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, “There is room for disagreement here and Rom 14 applies, should have

Mike says, “There is room for disagreement here and Rom 14 applies, should have tolerance for those who disagree” [3:40:35] Mike is speaking to complementarians, of course b/c "they are trying to ple

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

So Mike leans towards egalitarian practice because he is worried about the negat

So Mike leans towards egalitarian practice because he is worried about the negative side effects of complementarian and patriarchal tendencies to limit women. How ironic. /74

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says that his bias is to lean on more of the liberty side of things as he i

Mike says that his bias is to lean on more of the liberty side of things as he is concerned that women will end up weak because they won’t do theology or practice praying publicly or teaching etc. [3:

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Can you imagine God judging someone simply because the kept teaching their male

Can you imagine God judging someone simply because the kept teaching their male child past his 18th birthday? Do we see anyone fretting over this kind of thing in scripture except maybe Pharisees? /72

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says "It's a genuine tough question...I just don't know" [3:29:48] Mike is

Mike says "It's a genuine tough question...I just don't know" [3:29:48] Mike is struggling with the age where women should no longer teach boys and thinks this is a genuinely tough question which he

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike asks, "what about women leading in prayer? As long as it is done in a way t

Mike asks, "what about women leading in prayer? As long as it is done in a way that is not 'elderly like'" [3:22:47] Well Mike has a problem here, because if a woman can prophecy, is he going to limi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Now isn't this interesting! So he is admitting that one of the impacts of comps

Now isn't this interesting! So he is admitting that one of the impacts of comps is that women don't get practice if they are afraid of sinning by speaking, teaching, praying publicly, or spiritually l

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says that he is worried about theologically weak women who don’t talk about

Mike says that he is worried about theologically weak women who don’t talk about theology because they are scared to violate scripture. He wants them to talk about it and teach each other just not act

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

I'm not sure what this looks like. Usually, authors are appealing to their reade

I'm not sure what this looks like. Usually, authors are appealing to their readers to try to convince them, not to take authority over them, because they may not even know them or their circumstances.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike convinces himself that men can learn from female exegetes who write books.

Mike convinces himself that men can learn from female exegetes who write books. His reason? Because of Priscilla. [3:09:00] Mike then comments, "Don’t write in such a way as you are taking authority

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike gives an example of a large crowd evangelism event where the focus is on th

Mike gives an example of a large crowd evangelism event where the focus is on the speaker "and them speaking authoritatively," saying that this should not be done by women. Seems to overlap into elder

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

But where is he getting this from? The Bible says that when we are speaking the

But where is he getting this from? The Bible says that when we are speaking the words of God we should not be speaking them as though they are tentative or unsure, but boldly (1Pet 4:11). How is thi

1Pet 4:11 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

For him it seems to come down to simply acting the part of an elder which he doe

For him it seems to come down to simply acting the part of an elder which he doesn't fully define. If teaching theology, then don't do it with authority; if correcting, then speak what you think but t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says a woman can informally teach men theology, correct them, post somethin

Mike says a woman can informally teach men theology, correct them, post something to correct on social media, etc. He says that since Priscilla did it, then it's ok. [2:57:00] Mike keeps narrowing d

1Ti 2:12 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike asks, "Sunday school? Fine - not teaching men." Mike adds, "Food ministry?

Mike asks, "Sunday school? Fine - not teaching men." Mike adds, "Food ministry? Fine - nothing like elder role." /57

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike asks whether a woman can be an usher, etc. Mike says yes, because it is not

Mike asks whether a woman can be an usher, etc. Mike says yes, because it is nothing like what an elder does. That instructing someone how to get involved in a ministry is not teaching scripture ‘auth

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

I think Mike overly complicates things and this results in much confusion and di

I think Mike overly complicates things and this results in much confusion and difference between what one comp church feels is right from another. It doesn't resolve all the problems. /55

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