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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam If you think I’m disobeying Paul then all you have to do is ignore m

@ymmotrojam If you think I’m disobeying Paul then all you have to do is ignore me and the women speaking.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ZacharyGarris @JohnnyABenson I am an egalitarian. I believe in mutual submission one to another in the body of Christ (which means wives to husbands and husbands to wives, congregants to pastors and pastors to congregants). Women are not restricte...

@ZacharyGarris @JohnnyABenson I am an egalitarian. I believe in mutual submission one to another in the body of Christ (which means wives to husbands and husbands to wives, congregants to pastors and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Where do we find any statement of women speaking in church or teaching from the pulpit listed as a SIN? The word SIN is never used. If you think that sin is defined by disobeying a command, then consider the following comm...

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Where do we find any statement of women speaking in church or teaching from the pulpit listed as a SIN? The word SIN is never used. If you think that sin is defined by diso

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they value males more highly than females. You say it’s ju...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they valu

@ymmotrojam If you think I’m disobeying Paul then all you have to do is ignore m

@ZacharyGarris @JohnnyABenson I am an egalitarian. I believe in mutual submission one to another in the body of Christ (which means wives to husbands and husbands to wives, congregants to pastors and pastors to congregants). Women are not restricte...

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Where do we find any statement of women speaking in church or teaching from the pulpit listed as a SIN? The word SIN is never used. If you think that sin is defined by disobeying a command, then consider the following comm...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they value males more highly than females. You say it’s ju...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 That's great! I'm not contending that people don't submit to this structure and that it can't work. My energy is on this topic because of those who are causing division in the body because of it. BTW, there was a group c...

@bannedby Yes! The great commission is Jesus commanding everyone of us to teach

@Deigratia1985 I didn't say I felt that way. I'm reasoning about what mutual su

@3HillsMinor What authority does anyone have in the church? If my pastor says I can’t serve on the choir, I willingly submit what I want to keep the peace, but I don’t obey him because he’s the “authority.” If he says I need to obey this or that in...

@3HillsMinor Do you serve your children and their needs? Let me guess…you earn money, pay for their clothes, put a roof on them, make them dinner and clean up after and you are not subjecting yourself to fulfilling their basic needs? Who said anyth...

@3HillsMinor You appear to have a problem with reading in context. You cannot i

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Eph 5:21 is pretty clear too: “and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ.” We submit to one another. I’ve lived this way for decades of my marriage. You should try it—it work...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I never said wives shouldn’t submit to their husbands, only that husbands also should submit to their wives (mutual submission): “and subject yourselves **to one another** in the fear of Christ.”...

RT @ryanschatz: @MikeWingerii 🔍 In the clip from [1:44:48] to [1:46:15], you aga

@MikeWingerii 🔍 In the clip from [1:44:48] to [1:46:15], you again question how an egalitarian husband can avoid submitting to his wife. "Do he need to go to a different church?" you say. 🤔 But, I disagree with your interpretation of verse 12. I se...

@AlvinOchola @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren So pastors only submit to pastors? Eph 5:21 says "and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ." This obviously doesn’t mean be obedient to, but to willingly subject yourself under another. ...

@MikeWingerii @hashim_warren And here’s another one where Mike gives his view on

@ZacharyGarris And the apostles were not to command all people to obey everythin

@ZacharyGarris Jesus Himself commanded that all nations were to be discipled to

@AlistenDoris It’s great you are obeying what you read in the Bible. This passage is not Paul telling godly, qualified and gifted women that they should not teach true doctrine to groups which include men. The grammar, context and references do not...

@RandallVaughn14 @AlanChilde36050 @Moonwood570 @5Solas2 I have a question to ask you: what authority does a pastor have? If he tells you to do something that contradicts the Bible or violates your conscience, will you listen? If he says you cannot ...

@Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel The concept of hating those who disobey God is relevant even for us. “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my ...

@Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel But Saul DIDNT KNOW He was persecuting the Lord—he explicitly says this in Acts 22:8 and declares he was ignorant in 1 Tim 1:13. Jesus had to reveal this to him. And as soon as this happened, he obeyed. This is an accou...

@ronhenzel What evidence do you have that Saul hated *Jesus*? All we have from Paul is that he was ignorant and the description where he asked who it was who was speaking to him. He clearly obeyed once Jesus interrupted him with no evidence he hate...

@nevermindlind @smashbaals You are assuming the conclusion. The great commission is to make disciples and the early churches were not mega church buildings with special pulpits but house churches. In what sense is a woman who has the requisite char...

@smashbaals Because the Jews did not recognize their Messiah does not mean they had a different God. They just were not obedient. This would be like a disobedient Christian. Paul became a true Jew by fully obeying the OT scriptures. Paul, who was...

@DavidAlWilliams @hallelujahtwit @smashbaals Paul spent extended time at several churches during his missionary journeys. Not only did he spend considerable time guiding, teaching, preaching and overseeing at these churches, but he continued to foll...

@JrShines @M_Jensen23 @smashbaals Because there was a problem in many marriages due to how the wife was seen almost as property or for the purpose of producing children only or taking care of the house. In this master-slave type relationship, women ...

RT @ryanschatz: @Urist1689 @smashbaals There are certainly instances where the F

@Urist1689 @smashbaals There are certainly instances where the Father submits to the Son or where His willingness to do whatever the Son requests is evident. 1. In John 17, Jesus prays for his own glorification, as well as for his disciples and all ...

@JrShines @M_Jensen23 @smashbaals Verse 21 is where “submit” is and it says each

@G3Conference God doesn’t stop anyone from preaching the truth. Women may be pr

@EmmaravenLily @AngloAustralian @Brian_Sauve I understand your perspective. Some of these men sincerely think that it is God’s design and order for have all women submit and males to be in every possible position of leadership. They sincerely hold ...

@JollyStine @pauldirks @KaeleyT You've made insightful points, Christine. Many overlook the significant number of female missionaries leading in environments with a more flexible structure. Additionally, numerous women feel they're going against God...

@Vicar0fChrist @Brian_Sauve That older women are to instruct younger women in pr

@Brian_Sauve @CovenantReform2 Just because you found a passage instructing about behaviour doesn’t mean that women are forbidden to teach theologically. In the great commission, all believers are commanded to make disciples of all peoples. There is...

@jools6691 @BBisthebomb75 @AiG Wedding vows that suggest the wife is to obey her husband as if she was a child or a slave are not Biblical. Ephesians 5:21-24 doesn’t say obey. V21 says we are to subject ourselves to one another in the fear of Chris...

@MargMowczko I don't get the sense that adult children were told to "obey" their

@DickSaban1 @Peacemaker811 @PubliusJosephus Christ submitted to die for the church. He did what was best for us not what was best for himself. He came to serve, not to be served. The leader is the one who serves everyone. We are all to follow his...

@OluImmanuel Thanks for the encouragement! I hope the needless suffering of women will perhaps cease in my lifetime. They are also those whom the Holy Spirit has chosen to gift with leadership and teaching gifts. Those men who won’t submit to gift...

RT @ryanschatz: @E_C_Onugha @tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi I’m not lo

@E_C_Onugha @tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi Many passages show Jesus as giving the ultimate example of submitting himself to die for sinners, even for Judas though he was lost! 11. 2 Cor 8:9 - "For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Chri...

@E_C_Onugha @tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi I’m not looking for your confirmation. Mutual submission is all over the New Testament. 1.Phil 2:3-4 - “Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above...

@tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi However, when someone lays their life down for others, this is the ultimate act of submission. "Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility consider one another as more important than you...

@Solomon_Buchi Being submitted to someone is doing something they want or need i

@Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi He said "A Christian man was not instructed to submit to his wife" and yet this passage says "the husband also does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does"⎯If the husband does not submit to his wife, then t...

@Solomon_Buchi Verse 22 doesn’t have the Greek word “submit” in it. It is in ve

@Solomon_Buchi There’s a verse that explicitly calls the man to also submit to his wife: "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise the husband also does not have authority over his own body, but the wife...

“The instructions for mutual submission and sacrificial love in Ephesians 5:1–2

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Paul is saying that this specific deceived woman who is teaching false doctrine is to receive instruction quietly with submissiveness. She is to be corrected and to submit to correction. P...

@pauldirks @PerinDana I am glad that you agree there is mutual submission as that is there in the text. As for the asymmetry, I certainly see it also. I think the reason for the asymmetry is because of the cultural asymmetry that’s already there wh...

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@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I never said wives shouldn’t submit to their husbands, only that husbands also should submit to their wives (mutual submission): “and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ.”...

@ronhenzel What evidence do you have that Saul hated Jesus? All we have from Paul is that he was ignorant and the description where he asked who it was who was speaking to him. He clearly obeyed once Jesus interrupted him with no evidence he hate...