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@covapologetics @subq The only instance of anyone explicitly being called pastor

@covapologetics @subq The only instance of anyone explicitly being called pastor (ποιμήν) in the NT is the following: “And when the Chief Shepherd (ποιμήν) appears, you will receive the unfading crow

1Pe 5:4 general

Peter @covapologetics claims that no-one before the New Covenant claims that Jes

Peter @covapologetics claims that no-one before the New Covenant claims that Jesus was a literal pastor of the church (see comments for reference post). Is Jesus a literal pastor of the church?

@covapologetics @subq Hm. In that case, we as the church are all topologically m

@covapologetics @subq Hm. In that case, we as the church are all topologically married given we are part of the typological relationship you mentioned. Jesus wasn’t a literal pastor (ie. shepherd). N

@ScottCross_8 @covapologetics That’s interesting. So his marriage covenant is “until death do us part” and scripture is clear that a widow(et) is free to remarry (Ro 7:2-3 applies to both), Paul even encouraging younger widows to remarry (1Ti 5:14), ...

@ScottCross_8 @covapologetics That’s interesting. So his marriage covenant is “until death do us part” and scripture is clear that a widow(et) is free to remarry (Ro 7:2-3 applies to both), Paul even

1Ti 5:14 Ro 7:2-3 debate

@Crystalisives @covapologetics I’m still curious which church(es) actually take

@Crystalisives @covapologetics I’m still curious which church(es) actually take this view and disqualify their pastor if he becomes a widower while serving as their pastor.

@subq @covapologetics He is overliteralizing the passage. Paul himself wasn’t ma

@subq @covapologetics He is overliteralizing the passage. Paul himself wasn’t married and would be DQ’d by his reading. So would Jesus! And so now I’m curious to find out how many Particular Baptist

@covapologetics @fishercatMaine So you admit that this issue is unclear enough t

@covapologetics @fishercatMaine So you admit that this issue is unclear enough that there isn’t a general consensus on single pastors? Or just that you are not informed as to what the general consensu

@covapologetics Again, I can read and I appreciate the additional context. Are you suggesting a single male pastor is ok then? Or are they and the congregation supporting them being unfaithful to the Bible? Or are you thinking it’s not a deal break...

@covapologetics Again, I can read and I appreciate the additional context. Are you suggesting a single male pastor is ok then? Or are they and the congregation supporting them being unfaithful to the

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Peter @covapologetics has informed me that the traditional Baptist view is that

Peter @covapologetics has informed me that the traditional Baptist view is that pastors whose wife dies have to step down as they become disqualified (see comment for details). Does your church disqu

@covapologetics Now as for your view, does a pastor have to step down if his wif

@covapologetics Now as for your view, does a pastor have to step down if his wife bears his second child and she dies during childbirth?

Your view assumes gender is the key difference, but Paul’s focus is on character

Your view assumes gender is the key difference, but Paul’s focus is on character qualifications, not a categorical distinction. ‘Likewise’ strengthens inclusion, connecting women to deacons and mainta

‘Likewise’ does signal a shift, but it doesn’t exclude continuity. The shift is

‘Likewise’ does signal a shift, but it doesn’t exclude continuity. The shift is to women who serve, but the similarity is the shared qualifications required for deacons and women alike. https://t.co/9

I appreciate you allow for women in ministry, but you disallow them to be elders or deacons—leaders. And they cannot teach truth to males (adults only? What about teens?) Priscilla taught Apollos, so teaching men truth is not forbidden of women. An ...

I appreciate you allow for women in ministry, but you disallow them to be elders or deacons—leaders. And they cannot teach truth to males (adults only? What about teens?) Priscilla taught Apollos, so

As for your counter argument on 1Ti 2:12, since when is Paul forbidding the teac

As for your counter argument on 1Ti 2:12, since when is Paul forbidding the teaching of *correct* doctrine by anyone to anyone? The context is stopping false teaching. Also, he says male congregants s

1Ti 2:12 debate

I’m merely suggesting that in order to clearly restrict elders to only males, the text should explicitly exclude women which it doesn’t. 1Ti 3:11 says “Women likewise…”—Even if we presume v1-10 is for males, this statement shows the same requirement...

I’m merely suggesting that in order to clearly restrict elders to only males, the text should explicitly exclude women which it doesn’t. 1Ti 3:11 says “Women likewise…”—Even if we presume v1-10 is fo

1Ti 3:11 general

Further, by encouraging people to remain single (1Co 7:7-8,32-35), is Paul encou

Further, by encouraging people to remain single (1Co 7:7-8,32-35), is Paul encouraging them to become disqualified from being elders and deacons? Paul says that those who are single have more time to

1Co 7:7-8 question

Paul acts as a bishop over multiple churches, writing them letters (multiple in

Paul acts as a bishop over multiple churches, writing them letters (multiple in several cases) and gets involved in everything a pastor would do. And the fact that you admit the apostle Peter is also

Paul was clearly both an apostle and an overseer. His letters are pastoral (esp 1Co, 2Co and Gal), he ministered in Ephesus for ~3 yrs (Ac 20:31). He was not there merely to plant a church and appoint elders, but spent significant time shepherding,...

Paul was clearly *both* an apostle and an overseer. His letters are pastoral (esp 1Co, 2Co and Gal), he ministered in Ephesus for ~3 yrs (Ac 20:31). He was not there merely to plant a church and appoi

Ac 20:31 debate

This means if the pastor’s wife dies, he has to step down. He is no longer quali

This means if the pastor’s wife dies, he has to step down. He is no longer qualified! If his grown child decides to abandon the faith, the pastor has to step down. If he is married and only has one

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You are at least consistent that you see the following requirements: - male - married (cannot be single or even a widower!) - must have more than one child - all children must believe So at any point that one or more of the above stops being true,...

You are at least consistent that you see the following requirements: - male - married (cannot be single or even a widower!) - must have more than one child - all children must believe So at *any* poi

You can’t discount a prohibition that doesn’t exist, right? I’m not suggesting

You can’t discount a prohibition that doesn’t exist, right? I’m not suggesting that *any* information is being discounted. The question that needs to be asked is whether Paul is anywhere excluding o

@juvelibertarian @nchokie02_adam @MikeWingerii I’m not forgetting, but yes, the

@juvelibertarian @nchokie02_adam @MikeWingerii I’m not forgetting, but yes, the New Testament was being written to preserve what the apostles were orally teaching and to capture the eye witness testim

@voyavolver1 @MikeWingerii Heresy has to do with serious deviation from foundati

@voyavolver1 @MikeWingerii Heresy has to do with serious deviation from foundational teachings of the faith, not just differences on non-essentials like the method of baptism, end times doctrines, whe

@voyavolver1 @MikeWingerii My pastor is not inspired when preaching and writing,

@voyavolver1 @MikeWingerii My pastor is not inspired when preaching and writing, at least not in the sense of scripture.

@twitchypreacher Yet saying “must be a married male” would exclude Paul himself

@twitchypreacher Yet saying “must be a married male” would exclude Paul himself not to mention Jesus! And if you say that apostles have less requirements than elders, on what basis would such a claim

@Enigmaticx24479 @RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic Where is an elder ever said to authentein anyone? The context is false teaching, not teaching truth. You are presuming that Paul isn’t allowing the teaching of truth but that contradict...

@Enigmaticx24479 @RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic Where is an elder ever said to authentein anyone? The context is false teaching, not teaching truth. You are presuming that Paul isn’t

Mt 28:18-20 debate

@Enigmaticx24479 @RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic Where is elder m

@Enigmaticx24479 @RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic Where is elder mentioned in 1Ti 2:12?

1Ti 2:12 question

@_jonbowlin @slow_down_Jess Finally, Hebrews highlights Christ’s superior sacrifice and a heavenly temple but this doesn’t negate a future earthly temple in the Millennium. I believe it serves as a memorial to Christ’s work as there are still people ...

@_jonbowlin @slow_down_Jess Finally, Hebrews highlights Christ’s superior sacrifice and a heavenly temple but this doesn’t negate a future earthly temple in the Millennium. I believe it serves as a me

@heatheraaj78 @OrthodoxWario @MikeWingerii The Bible is self-correcting. It's no

@heatheraaj78 @OrthodoxWario @MikeWingerii The Bible is self-correcting. It's not "majority rules" or interpretation only by popes and bishops who have frequently erred. The text read in context will

@RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic No, that doesn't work at all. You presume that elders are supposed to be doing what Paul says shouldn't be done in 1Ti 2:12. Further, since when was Paul saying that anyone wasn't to teach truth to anyon...

@RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic No, that doesn't work at all. You presume that elders are supposed to be doing what Paul says shouldn't be done in 1Ti 2:12. Further, since when was Paul

1Ti 2:12 commentary

@Enigmaticx24479 @RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic You need to lear

@Enigmaticx24479 @RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic You need to learn to read in context. 1Ti 2:12 does not say that a woman cannot teach truth to a man or cannot be an elder. https://t.co

1Ti 2:12 commentary

Ac 18:26 Ro 16:1 Ro 16:7 debate

Let's not forget that the NT contains examples of women in ministry such as: Pho

Let's not forget that the NT contains examples of women in ministry such as: Phoebe: deacon (Ro 16:1), Junia: apostle (Ro 16:7), and Priscilla: a teacher of Apollos (Ac 18:26). In fact, Ro 16 lists 1

In the Greek text, τις (meaning "anyone/someone") is used generically in 1Ti 3:1

In the Greek text, τις (meaning "anyone/someone") is used generically in 1Ti 3:1: "If anyone aspires to the office of overseer..." This absence of gender-specific pronouns supports the idea that Paul

1Ti 3:1 general

A common objection to women serving as pastors cites 1 Timothy 3:2: "An overseer

A common objection to women serving as pastors cites 1 Timothy 3:2: "An overseer must be... the husband of one wife." Does this exclude women from pastoral roles? Let’s unpack this. 🧵 https://t.co/IWl

1 Timothy 3:2 question

@RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic I’m sorry, where does scripture s

@RamiThePaladin @MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic I’m sorry, where does scripture say “an elder must not be a woman”?

@MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic And they were off on whether women could be elder

@MikeWingerii @TheHustleCritic And they were off on whether women could be elders.

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-28

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Paul commends Philemon for his love and and faith, emphasizing qualities of generosity and compassion rather than authority (Phm 1:4-7). He then appeals to Philemon "for love's sake" to receive Onesimus back. He *expli...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Paul commends Philemon for his love and and faith, emphasizing qualities of generosity and compassion rather than authority (Phm 1:4-7). He then appeals to Philemon "fo

Phm 1:4-7 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-27

@ClairmontVII @KaeleyT My previous church never ever shared elders’ minutes with

@ClairmontVII @KaeleyT My previous church never ever shared elders’ minutes with anyone but the government.

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-27

@carol66944 @pushforgorilla @subq @harmonizedgrace Israel isn’t mentioned there.

@carol66944 @pushforgorilla @subq @harmonizedgrace Israel isn’t mentioned there. All God said in Ge 3:15 is the seed of the woman. The solution to the problem should come from the man if this is about

Ge 3:15 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-27

@BigRedBetz @CharisHoll84971 @Peacemaker811 @harmonizedgrace The Bible teaches us to believe and act on future promises which have yet to be fulfilled based on the past fulfilled promises and God’s proven character. Faith is an internal thing (and t...

@BigRedBetz @CharisHoll84971 @Peacemaker811 @harmonizedgrace The Bible teaches us to believe and act on future promises which have yet to be fulfilled based on the past fulfilled promises and God’s pr

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-23

@StevenMKestner @ScottRoberts Notice in the following passage the "if...then" constructions. If we deny Him means if we no longer have faith. Does He then preserve us? Scripture says that He will deny us. For the last one, our faithlessness will not ...

@StevenMKestner @ScottRoberts Notice in the following passage the "if...then" constructions. If we deny Him means if we no longer have faith. Does He then preserve us? Scripture says that He will deny

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-23

@ymmotrojam The Greek ἐν αὐτῷ places the focus on union with Christ, not a mutua

@ymmotrojam The Greek ἐν αὐτῷ places the focus on union with Christ, not a mutual decision between Father and Son. I’m not sure where you are getting that from. This passage is about God’s plan for b

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-22

@chris_jolliff @ThePastorBurris @CherylSchatz @IsaacGr66057889 @wichman_matthew Yes, calling someone to repent implies they are sinning and one cannot sin and not repent and be saved. We don't repent of secondary issues. You can proclaim the same gos...

@chris_jolliff @ThePastorBurris @CherylSchatz @IsaacGr66057889 @wichman_matthew Yes, calling someone to repent implies they are sinning and one cannot sin and not repent and be saved. We don't repent

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-22

@ThePastorBurris @CherylSchatz @IsaacGr66057889 Jonathan, you are among the few

@ThePastorBurris @CherylSchatz @IsaacGr66057889 Jonathan, you are among the few that take the time to apologize publicly. Thanks for being a good example.

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-20

@B_Christs_Amb @JacobPaul432 @MikeWingerii Even though Jesus quoted that OT pass

@B_Christs_Amb @JacobPaul432 @MikeWingerii Even though Jesus quoted that OT passage where He felt like the Father had abandoned Him, He knew that the Father had not abandoned Him because He was in Chr

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-20

@JacobPaul432 @MikeWingerii I have not seen Zahnd’s debate with Brown. I’m conce

@JacobPaul432 @MikeWingerii I have not seen Zahnd’s debate with Brown. I’m concerned at what Mike says and how he frames things. He said I had to repent of spreading the teaching that women can be eld

@Matthew56193629 @BretArrigo @sher_qw @mtnhousewife Uh… but it says every man (andros, singular) in the context of a passage that mentions a woman (gynaikos, singular). Why doesn’t Paul say people (anthropos) or believers if he means that Christ is ...

@Matthew56193629 @BretArrigo @sher_qw @mtnhousewife Uh… but it says every man (andros, singular) in the context of a passage that mentions a woman (gynaikos, singular). Why doesn’t Paul say people (a

@Matthew56193629 @BretArrigo @sher_qw @mtnhousewife Her cover and every woman’s cover whether married or not (if even that is the meaning of ‘head’) is Christ. What is the point of the passage saying that the head of all males is Christ? Wouldn’t an...

@Matthew56193629 @BretArrigo @sher_qw @mtnhousewife Her cover and every woman’s cover whether married or not (if even that is the meaning of ‘head’) is Christ. What is the point of the passage saying

@NewestPapa @mtnhousewife @Matthew56193629 Yes, thanks. That’s a good passage. H

@NewestPapa @mtnhousewife @Matthew56193629 Yes, thanks. That’s a good passage. Here’s 1Pe 3:6 in context. https://t.co/JPge5soJWf

1Pe 3:6 commentary

@PatrickHen1776 @mtnhousewife @Jleerockwell Huh? We are each personally responsi

@PatrickHen1776 @mtnhousewife @Jleerockwell Huh? We are each personally responsible as adults. You cannot dish off responsibility to another male. I mean what then of single woman whose dad has passed