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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-21

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE I see. So you know my motives and you know my upbringing

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE I see. So you know my motives and you know my upbringing? How is that? Not even my wife knows my motives unless I tell her. So how is it that you know them? 🤔

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-21

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE Now that’s interesting. So either your husband has the a

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE Now that’s interesting. So either your husband has the authority to give you a pass on obeying 1 Tim 2:12 and/or he is scared to rebuke me himself. Which is it?

1 Tim 2:12 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-20

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE So outright lies…about scripture? Again, curious that yo

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE So outright lies…about scripture? Again, curious that you grant yourself the right to expose my purported lies about scripture given your view of 1 Tim 2:12.

1 Tim 2:12 question

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-20

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE Are you allowed to rebuke me? Isn’t that taking authorit

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE Are you allowed to rebuke me? Isn’t that taking authority over me, a man?

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE I see. So you know my motives and you know my upbringing

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE Now that’s interesting. So either your husband has the a

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE So outright lies…about scripture? Again, curious that yo

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE Are you allowed to rebuke me? Isn’t that taking authorit

@lynette_f815 @MarkGrote The only point I’d contest was your broad statement that “women were uneducated.” I’m not sure how you arrived at this. Priscilla, although she wasn’t from Ephesus, is an example of a very educated woman. Since Paul uses t...

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE The difference between you and I is that I’m posting WHY

@kelcy_lowry @Mimi_CBE Right, you believe all egalitarians are wrong. We all kn

@ich1ban123456 @sympatheticNPC @DST_QA @ymmotrojam Just because Paul is dealing with a specific concern in the marital relationship doesn’t mean that he is affirming the already culturally acceptable idea that the husband is the master over his wife....

@MarkGrote I’m egalitarian so I agree with you on that, but I think that the details in this passage don’t fit your description. Paul uses the singular in vs 11-12, “the woman” in v14 and “she will be saved…if they” in v15. All of these point to a ...

@ich1ban123456 @DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ymmotrojam The “Economic Subordination” theology is severely flawed. When my wife sends me to the store to get milk and eggs, I wouldn’t understand myself as functionally subordinate to my wife. Since we are ...

RT @Mimi_CBE: A First Response to Mike Winger’s 11½ Hrs Video on 1 Timothy 2 htt

@kelcy_lowry @Isaiah45_7 First, I don’t know how you researched my position years ago before I posted it here. 🤔 I don’t know too many who hold to my view of these passages. Second, what is a godly man? Do you define a godly man as a complementari...

@kelcy_lowry @Isaiah45_7 Kelcey: - I am correct; I researched it - The Bible agr

@kelcy_lowry @JeremyMBauman @MarkGrote @hamillaaron @MikeWingerii My parents are not the pastors nor do they attend my church. It was part of the Reformed Church of America denomination but is in process of leaving because the denomination doesn’t a...

@cbankston7 @ymmotrojam Yes, precisely! Judge those in the church, not those who don’t claim to be believers. It doesn’t mean to judge only while people are in the building called the church, but if anyone calls himself a brother, Jesus calls you t...

@DothanDave @MarkGrote True enough. It does appear that the sometimes arbitrary

@ymmotrojam Some think this refers to only in the church but that is something y

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam We of course think that subjecting yourself to all in the body is serving Christ. But what you are suggesting is that the wife must have a special submission and that it is to be led not to serve. ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The same thing could be said

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Phil 2 states quite clearly that Jesus was completely equal in every way with the Father before the incarnation. Now he has all authority and is actually prioritized over the father and Holy Spirit ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC I became egalitarian after about 13 years of marriage and it helped save my marriage. Paul and Peter are addressing particular issues and not saying wives are not to love and give their lives like Jesus not husbands not to su...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I like how you described this. Jesus didn’t consider equality with God something to be grasped, or held into, but makes himself a servant. This is the statements of the text. He should be worshipp...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Jesus doesn’t ask for authori

@sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Always getting one’s own way in every

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam You are right, you cannot criticize a view just because there will be more or less temptations. But you can criticize it on the basis of scripture as not being God’s ideal. By suggesting that Matt ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam If both the husband and wife

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam With an egalitarian marriage, the couple comes to mutual decisions. Many times one bends to the desires of the other, so there is a give and take. One person always getting their way in a conflict ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam There is actually mutual subm

@RisingDisciples @TruthTreasury @CherylSchatz @Joel7Richardson You realize that the “comfy, soft, western church” is only a fraction of Christian’s that will participate in the rapture, right? This is not about avoiding persecution as if we live god...

@Alicia_Bittle_ @BarbaraCowley That had to do with the Lord’s house. Is the Iow

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC I don’t think you understand. I believe we both have the mandate to lay down our lives. All believers are to emulate Jesus, not just husbands. In an egalitarian marriage, both partners are equally valued and respected. In a...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC There’s nothing wrong with you feeling that way. I woul

@Truth_matters20 That scripture is clear: you have to have the son to have life!

@knarz_ @LizzieMarbach Interesting. Sorry you decided to ditch Christianity bec

@KurodaSenpai @smashbaals Smash said "it is unbiblical" meaning if you do it you are going against the Bible. Rather he should have said, there is no Biblical restriction on women joining the military, though it would seem preferable that men should...

@smashbaals You have no right (or power) to bind another's conscience on somethi

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Ok, I understand what you are trying to say. We don't follow the example of generals and the military because this doesn't necessarily reflect scripture. We are not fighting a physical war which requires physical strength, b...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC My wife previously did not want the responsibility to lead. When I showed her that she needed to accept her own responsibility and that it wasn't a sin to lead, she grew into this and matured as a person. Treating women as e...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC No, I don't think that this is required only of the husband. It depends on the circumstances. In a war, why would one send the physically weaker partner to carry a gun and slog in the mud and trenches? If I need a kidney tr...

@sympatheticNPC @DST_QA One more comment⎯Yes, Paul directs men to love their wives as Jesus loves His church, but do you think that women are not also to love as Jesus loves? Just because that is not stated doesn't mean it is not implied. Perhaps t...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Sure, I understand you are not only responding to the few who are interacting. If you think of submitting as a matter of authority over the will of another, I think this may be why it is repulsive to you. We are not "command...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC You keep going to the obey and commanding part. Mutual submission is not about commanding and obeying against our will. Both the parent and the child have a common goal to eat, the parent alone has the power to provide and c...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Why do you need a quora post to summarize what you said quite well in 2 sentences? I never said that we are to treat God like a genie, or that he will do something that is not aligned with his will, but that he submits to doi...

@cezargr1 @kblineage @JennaEllisEsq Making disciples means sharing the gospel. We are not given the authority to go and force unbelievers to repent and believe. "Be wise in the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity." (Col...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Why is this always about authority order? Do you think that because the order is Jew first then Gentile that Jews have authority over Gentiles? "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC "It was disobeying God by not being a disciple to his wife so that should would fully understand" This is close to what I see the text saying. God gave Adam more experience about Him than Eve and as a result expected him to ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC “…then Christ submits to the church?” “And I will do wh

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT When you say obey, do you mean obey against one’s will? Are we to obey Jesus against our will? I don’t think that’s what this means. Further, is Jesus not saying that He will fulfill whatever His people ask in Hi...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Maybe it would be helpful to highlight the one way authority. What authority do you have over your church members that is one way. Please provide examples. - Setting the service time? - Not allowing people to spe...

Some examples on how the apostle Paul dealt with idols in the book of Acts. http

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