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@MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio Complementarian is a bit deceiving because as an E

@MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio Complementarian is a bit deceiving because as an Egalitarian I also agree my wife and I complement each other. I just don’t think there are gender roles with respect to

@Alex7Shiro To be fair he actually believes that God’s design is for him to make sure his wife does things right or else he is failing as a husband. He believes he is emulating God’s order of authority. Interestingly, people don’t obey God and I’m ...

@Alex7Shiro To be fair he actually believes that God’s design is for him to make sure his wife does things right or else he is failing as a husband. He believes he is emulating God’s order of authori

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl When Paul says that wives are to submit to th

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl When Paul says that wives are to submit to their husbands he does not mean by this that husbands do not also submit to their wives or else Eph 5:21 would be violated

Eph 5:21 debate

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl While I am egalitarian, I also disagree with Keener on his insistence that Peter is suggesting that Christian marriages should comply with every human institution including husbands being the lord over their wives. ...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl While I am egalitarian, I also disagree with Keener on his insistence that Peter is suggesting that Christian marriages should comply with every human institution in

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl This is a misinterpretation of what is meant

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl This is a misinterpretation of what is meant by head. We are looking at this from different basic understandings of the underpinning argument about what kephale mea

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife submits to the husband. The husband

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife submits to the husband. The husband submits to the wife. Neither is the authority over the other (except when it comes to their bodies related to sex).

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Sarah's calling Abraham lord is similar to how we use the term "sir" or "mister" today. The husband and the wife are the leaders of the home and work together as a team. The Biblical statement of the husband as th...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Sarah's calling Abraham lord is similar to how we use the term "sir" or "mister" today. The husband and the wife are the leaders of the home and work together as a

@kelcy_lowry I'm not brainwashed by the Bible. I am fully able to read it for m

@kelcy_lowry I'm not brainwashed by the Bible. I am fully able to read it for myself. 😅

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife isn't his employee, it is a one-flesh union! Maybe in a secular way he could income split with her because her house work has value and so he would split his income to reduce his taxes and show the value o...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife isn't his employee, it is a one-flesh union! Maybe in a secular way he could income split with her because her house work has value and so he would split h

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The issue is his misunderstanding of what the

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The issue is his misunderstanding of what the apostle Paul means by "head" and his complete missing the mark on mutual subjection and servant leadership.

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT BECAUSE he feels the Bible commands him to be

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT BECAUSE he feels the Bible commands him to be the federal head over his home!!!

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT If the problem was his, why doesn't he think

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT If the problem was his, why doesn't he think that picking up the broom and leading by example, and inviting the kids to participate isn't the solution?

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl If I was your boss and I commanded you to obey me, your complete obedience to me would certainly make things work. The measure of Biblical is not simply what works. But this is not how Jesus wants our relationship...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl If I was your boss and I commanded you to obey me, your complete obedience to me would certainly make things work. The measure of Biblical is not simply what works.

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl For sure, just wanted to clarify that none of

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl For sure, just wanted to clarify that none of this is personal.

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Do we do things because they work or because

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Do we do things because they work or because they are Biblical? Yes, slaves obeying their masters has worked out well for masters over the years, but should a wife

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Just because someone disagrees with your view

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Just because someone disagrees with your views does not mean they are attacking you. This is not personal.

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, it seems you are suggesting that we are not understanding the context of his book. So now that I've spent the $9 to get access to the context... From my reading, he is treating her like a child and disciplini...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, it seems you are suggesting that we are not understanding the context of his book. So now that I've spent the $9 to get access to the context... From my readi

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This is the fruit of a husband who exists to be served rather than to serve, who thinks that he doesn't have to obey the instruction "subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ" (Eph 5:21). “But Jesus called them to Himself and said, 'Y...

This is the fruit of a husband who exists to be served rather than to serve, who thinks that he doesn't have to obey the instruction "subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ" (Eph 5:21

Eph 5:21 general

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Yes, everyone who is able bodied should do something to contribute, though clearly there are obvious cases where this doesn't apply. But are you saying that if there is something she isn't keeping up with, your opt...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Yes, everyone who is able bodied should do something to contribute, though clearly there are obvious cases where this doesn't apply. But are you saying that if ther

@JanevskiAlex @smashbaals A wife cooking in high heels is pretty rad too 😅

@IdiocracyTL @smashbaals Ok, except the Bible is not fiction.

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @rockyredpanda That’s sounds like a very different way of characterizing this than a sin issue. By the way, my mom used to make my sandwiches when I was younger but when I grew up I started making my own. What’s the deal with ma...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @rockyredpanda That’s sounds like a very different way of characterizing this than a sin issue. By the way, my mom used to make my sandwiches when I was younger but when I grew up

@smashbaals Christ will rule at the second advent. He will reign on the throne of David from Jerusalem. In the mean time, "…I [Paul] urge that requests, prayers, intercession, and thanksgiving be made in behalf of all people, for kings and all who ...

@smashbaals Christ will rule at the second advent. He will reign on the throne of David from Jerusalem. In the mean time, "…I [Paul] urge that requests, prayers, intercession, and thanksgiving be ma

@pauldirks @rockyredpanda @KaeleyT When my wife is too overloaded to deal with t

@pauldirks @rockyredpanda @KaeleyT When my wife is too overloaded to deal with the dishes or making dinner, I take up the slack. If you are referring to depression or some other reason, then working

@woodsywomxn The woman is both the glory of God and the glory of man. Paul’s comment about women submitting to their husbands does not negate the instruction that all are to submit to one another in Eph 5:21 in the fear of Christ—that includes husba...

@woodsywomxn The woman is both the glory of God and the glory of man. Paul’s comment about women submitting to their husbands does not negate the instruction that all are to submit to one another in

Eph 5:21 debate

@MarkGrote @revpmorrison This has to do with the oral law that the Judiazers wer

@MarkGrote @revpmorrison This has to do with the oral law that the Judiazers were referencing in their comment Paul was quoting. https://t.co/5sr3cyayoZ

1 Cor 11:5 1 Corinthians 14:31 debate

@MarkGrote What type of speech? Women are assumed to be praying and prophesying in 1 Cor 11:5. Paul’s concern was not about silencing one gender but about the orderly use of the gifts for the benefit all: 1 Corinthians 14:31 (NASB 2020): “For you ...

@MarkGrote What type of speech? Women are assumed to be praying and prophesying in 1 Cor 11:5. Paul’s concern was not about silencing one gender but about the orderly use of the gifts for the benefi

@smashbaals “Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be released. Are you released from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But if you marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Yet such people as yourselves will have trouble in...

@smashbaals “Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be released. Are you released from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But if you marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned.

@pauldirks Wow, that was powerful interrogation.

@Forms_Respecter While I’m egalitarian, I didn’t get there because of all the things egalitarian scholars say. Sometimes they are guessing because they see women being used in the Bible in significant capacities and so they know that Paul can’t mean...

@Forms_Respecter While I’m egalitarian, I didn’t get there because of all the things egalitarian scholars say. Sometimes they are guessing because they see women being used in the Bible in significan

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Heb 5:12 says “In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!” If they could all be teachers, what’...

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Heb 5:12 says “In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not

Heb 5:12 question

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Where is the term “role” ever mentioned? And where

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Where is the term “role” ever mentioned? And where is teacher an office? Is not an elder said to be able to teach? As one can be both an apostle and elder/overseer, doe

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, P

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1…

@dougponder The driving force behind egalitarianism is not the culture but “for

@dougponder The driving force behind egalitarianism is not the culture but “for you are all sons” (Gal 3:26). If all sons—*now* (present active)—and all includes women and men, then who are you to di

Gal 3:26 debate

@dougponder I agree with you that pastor and elder/overseer should not be distin

@dougponder I agree with you that pastor and elder/overseer should not be distinguished. How anyone would get that a woman can be a pastor but not an elder makes no sense to me.

@dougponder Elders are not meant to “rule” because they are not kings over the c

@dougponder Elders are not meant to “rule” because they are not kings over the church. They are servants carrying out a task and given a responsibility. They “care” for the Lord’s church.

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John and Peter self-identify as elders. No one is explicitly identified as a bishop. How can you then argue that no women f

@dougponder Isn’t it normal to use the male gender of words if either female or

@dougponder Isn’t it normal to use the male gender of words if either female or male is possible? Where do we see the text say anywhere, “and elder must not be a woman?”

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women just as men should shepherd younger men. The latte...

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women j

Titus 2:6-8 debate

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 question

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) ⎯ Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or w

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris This passage is such a strong corrective of the complementarian position because if women are also sons then why do they treat them as though they are not going to rule and reign with Christ one day? Are they ...

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris This passage is such a strong corrective of the complementarian position because if women are also sons then why do they treat them as though they are not going

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted with believe this passage is only about salvation. It doesn’t have anything to do with there here and now and the famil

@DriverXag @sparkobuzzer @ZacharyGarris Gal 3:26 is not dealing with physical land, but the inheritance given to Jesus. It’s about salvation and everything else. This includes the church. There’s nothing passed from male to male in terms of leader...

@DriverXag @sparkobuzzer @ZacharyGarris Gal 3:26 is not dealing with physical land, but the inheritance given to Jesus. It’s about salvation and everything else. This includes the church. There’s n

Gal 3:26 debate

@ronhenzel It’s not about who moved, but that the straight jacket was in place to start with. Binding churches to unbiblical restrictions results in conflict and division. Of course one thinks it’s biblical and another thinks they are wrong. But it...

@ronhenzel It’s not about who moved, but that the straight jacket was in place to start with. Binding churches to unbiblical restrictions results in conflict and division. Of course one thinks it’s

@ronhenzel Are you saying that the PCA always restricted leadership to men in order to be in ecclesial fellowship? This should be a matter of conscience and ought to be removed from any requirements. What if the PCA required meeting on Saturday and...

@ronhenzel Are you saying that the PCA always restricted leadership to men in order to be in ecclesial fellowship? This should be a matter of conscience and ought to be removed from any requirements.

@ronhenzel The pre-Luther Waldensiens understood that women could be leaders, so this isn’t new. The problem is that this is a secondary issue, and so one church operating with male only leadership should be able to remain in fellowship with another...

@ronhenzel The pre-Luther Waldensiens understood that women could be leaders, so this isn’t new. The problem is that this is a secondary issue, and so one church operating with male only leadership s

@Ripple_Train @ZacharyGarris You are correct that the Greek only says sons. It also says that all are sons, which you’ve also correctly noted. However, if all are sons and receive the inheritance of sons then that clearly indicates that there is no...

@Ripple_Train @ZacharyGarris You are correct that the Greek only says sons. It also says that all are sons, which you’ve also correctly noted. However, if all are sons and receive the inheritance of

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris This verse is a very strong correction to Patriarchalists and complementarians because all of us—men and women—are considered sons. The 2020 version is trying to point out that these sons include males and females (the NASB still show...

@ZacharyGarris This verse is a very strong correction to Patriarchalists and complementarians because all of us—men and women—are considered sons. The 2020 version is trying to point out that these s

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris I have your book—do you want me to refute it here? There is no where that says teaching men is a sin. That is not stated in 1 Tim 2:12 nor anywhere else. Teaching itself is not authoritative, the Word of God is the authority. The i...

@ZacharyGarris I have your book—do you want me to refute it here? There is no where that says teaching men is a sin. That is not stated in 1 Tim 2:12 nor anywhere else. Teaching itself is not autho

1 Tim 2:12 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@IIIIIJOSHIIIII @JohnHar63885981 @DickSaban1 No, I don’t know where you are getting this from! Any sexual relationship other than within the confines of marriage between one man and one woman is sin and would preclude someone from being qualified to...

@IIIIIJOSHIIIII @JohnHar63885981 @DickSaban1 No, I don’t know where you are getting this from! Any sexual relationship other than within the confines of marriage between one man and one woman is sin