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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Do you think that men are devoid of empathy? I would

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Do you think that men are devoid of empathy? I wouldn't say that at all. I have empathy, but compared with my wife, she has more.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi However, in this case we have two anarthrous, "a woman" and "Eve" and one arthrous "the woman"⎯we have to determine who fits. They are both close and there is no hard and fast rule how close. Paul's context and grammar wil...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi However, in this case we have two anarthrous, "a woman" and "Eve" and one arthrous "the woman"⎯we have to determine who fits. They are both close and there is no hard and fa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi We have "a woman" who, if she exists in the church at Ephesus, can be the anarthrous which the article is being pointed to by the article. She also fits the grammar of v15: "She (the deceived wife teaching false doctrine) w...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi We have "a woman" who, if she exists in the church at Ephesus, can be the anarthrous which the article is being pointed to by the article. She also fits the grammar of v15:

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi So what you are essentially admitting though is that it could be either way? How then would Paul differentiate from "a woman" and "Eve" in the context of this passage? We have other reasons to believe that Eve cannot be "t...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi So what you are essentially admitting though is that it could be either way? How then would Paul differentiate from "a woman" and "Eve" in the context of this passage? We h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve If you were in danger and your 8 year old daughter ye

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve If you were in danger and your 8 year old daughter yells "stay back," would you listen? Influence and authority are two different things.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve This idea that the husband is to represent God and the wife to represent humans is pretty serious because we are all flawed individuals. Anyone that thinks that they have the role of God in someone's life and ca...

@ThandaM2 @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve This idea that the husband is to represent God and the wife to represent humans is pretty serious because we are all flawed individuals. Anyone that thinks that

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I actually don't think this, but many complementarians see this as the role of the "head" of the marriage and church. For context, I am an engineer and both lead and serve an individual contributor role on projects at a...

@ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I actually don't think this, but many complementarians see this as the role of the "head" of the marriage and church. For context, I am an engineer and both lead and ser

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle Hi Glenn! I’m looking forward to the day we can meet. It’s always enriching to connect with fellow pastors in our area. Your comment about the failures of various prominent pastors caught my attention. While these insta...

@GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle Hi Glenn! I’m looking forward to the day we can meet. It’s always enriching to connect with fellow pastors in our area. Your comment about the failures of various promin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the fact of women leading in scripture (albeit not as m...

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle Egalitarian? What’s wrong with that? 😅

@GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle Egalitarian? What’s wrong with that? 😅

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Let me guess…you want women to learn but not use tha

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Let me guess…you want women to learn but not use that knowledge to benefit others? What if they didn’t move their lips but used sign language instead? Or would you be ok

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@skafoure @Brian_Sauve I answered this one to a pastor friend of mine earlier.

@skafoure @Brian_Sauve I answered this one to a pastor friend of mine earlier. Take a look and let me know what you think. https://t.co/Sa6XjaqJkV

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@here4thetrash @Brian_Sauve And what does a strong man look like? Does he rule

@here4thetrash @Brian_Sauve And what does a strong man look like? Does he rule over his wife?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn't to take authority over your wife and make her o...

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Interesting. I think men need to lead more, but I don't think that means they need to be in authority over their wives and break every tie in decision making. Egalitarianism is not Matriarchy; it is equality, mutuality an...

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Interesting. I think men need to lead more, but I don't think that means they need to be in authority over their wives and break every tie in decision making. Egalitariani

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@StothersRyan @GodandQountry Where are you getting authority from? I think you are thinking that submission means unquestioning allegiance or obedience to, but this is not what is going on in Eph 5:21. Biblically, it means willingly "standing under...

@StothersRyan @GodandQountry Where are you getting authority from? I think you are thinking that submission means unquestioning allegiance or obedience to, but this is not what is going on in Eph 5:2

Eph 5:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@IiiEndicott @haymes_joshua Eph 5:21 is pretty clear that submission is to be mu

@IiiEndicott @haymes_joshua Eph 5:21 is pretty clear that submission is to be mutual. https://t.co/LBC7XGFhfg

Eph 5:21 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but source. The only place authority between the husban...

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but so

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@GodandQountry What part of verse 21 says that males are excluded from this inst

@GodandQountry What part of verse 21 says that males are excluded from this instruction from Paul? How is this instruction not mutual? And you should be paying attention as he says we are to do it "

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@Jimmer4Pres @WWUTTcom Did you view the video by Dr. James White? He says the anarthrous precedes the articular. Paul says "a woman/wife," then highlights her prototype, Eve, then clarifies "the woman...she will be saved through the childbearing if...

@Jimmer4Pres @WWUTTcom Did you view the video by Dr. James White? He says the anarthrous precedes the articular. Paul says "a woman/wife," then highlights her prototype, Eve, then clarifies "the wom

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I disagreed with him on Calvinism, I would not be allo...

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I di

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@WeakGameForever @NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii But Paul says "a woman" not "all women." And then this would also mean you are saying "All women will be saved through childbearing if all women continue in faith..." Which makes one wonder how men are sav...

@WeakGameForever @NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii But Paul says "a woman" not "all women." And then this would also mean you are saying "All women will be saved through childbearing if all women continue in

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel I don't follow your logic here. Why does there need to be two prototypes? There is literally a specific unnamed deceived wife teaching false doctrine in the church at Ephesus. Eve is being used to show that the situation in ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel I don't follow your logic here. Why does there need to be two prototypes? There is literally a specific unnamed deceived wife teaching false doctrine in the church at Ephesus.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ronhenzel The only meaning I'm twisting is the one you seemed to shoehorn into the text. Eve will be saved...if they continue in faith...? Who is the they? I think we have to take how Paul was using his words and not try to twist them to mean som...

@ronhenzel The only meaning I'm twisting is the one you seemed to shoehorn into the text. Eve will be saved...if they continue in faith...? Who is the they? I think we have to take how Paul was usi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

Complementarians: "We are not gender confused!" Me: "But don't you think the 's

Complementarians: "We are not gender confused!" Me: "But don't you think the 'she' is a 'they' in 1 Tim 2:15?" Complementarians: "Uh...um..." Me: "I got your back!☺️ See my chart."👇 https://t.co/Y

1 Tim 2:15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@WWUTTcom So what I hear you saying is that you don’t want to bother looking more carefully at this text because its just obvious to you that God forbids someone with a sex they were born with from teaching men. This despite the fact that I know man...

@WWUTTcom So what I hear you saying is that you don’t want to bother looking more carefully at this text because its just obvious to you that God forbids someone with a sex they were born with from te

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Wh

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Where is the word role even in the text? Why would a woman being a co-leader of her home with her husband—notice, both ar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ZacharyGarris Male primacy is a problem needlessly dividing churches, relegatin

@ZacharyGarris Male primacy is a problem needlessly dividing churches, relegating women to second class status. It’s a poor witness but it is also not Biblical.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve If we are talking about guys that take no responsibility and instead just watch football while the wife does everything—that kind of thing, then I’d be in full agreement with you. There should be shared responsibi...

@Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve If we are talking about guys that take no responsibility and instead just watch football while the wife does everything—that kind of thing, then I’d be in full agre

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ZacharyGarris The wisdom of the forefathers which needs to be our focus is that

@ZacharyGarris The wisdom of the forefathers which needs to be our focus is that of Jesus and the apostles.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@brianwhitecc @autocorrect2_0 The Bible also says you should not misuse God’s wo

@brianwhitecc @autocorrect2_0 The Bible also says you should not misuse God’s word. “Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctl

2 Tim 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@GodandQountry If mutual submission is heresy, than Jesus committed the biggest

@GodandQountry If mutual submission is heresy, than Jesus committed the biggest heresy of all by becoming a servant of all!! You are obviously mistaken.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and make all the decisions? Doesn’t it occur to you th...

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

RT @ryanschatz: @NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii I see you listened on audio. As an eg

RT @ryanschatz: @NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii I see you listened on audio. As an egalitarian and someone who finds Mike very reasonable and ch…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

RT @ryanschatz: @j_bambrick @MikeWingerii But Mike didn’t represent the best ega

RT @ryanschatz: @j_bambrick @MikeWingerii But Mike didn’t represent the best egalitarian arguments. Further, he doesn’t know what the “she…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii I see you listened on audio. As an egalitarian and someone who finds Mike very reasonable and charitable in how he deals with issues, I felt him mocking in this video. At any rate, he spends a lot of time tearing down Bell...

@NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii I see you listened on audio. As an egalitarian and someone who finds Mike very reasonable and charitable in how he deals with issues, I felt him mocking in this video. At a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@j_bambrick @MikeWingerii But Mike didn’t represent the best egalitarian arguments. Further, he doesn’t know what the “she” and “they” of verse 15 actually refer to. At least he acknowledges that women are to learn and not fundamentally defective, ...

@j_bambrick @MikeWingerii But Mike didn’t represent the best egalitarian arguments. Further, he doesn’t know what the “she” and “they” of verse 15 actually refer to. At least he acknowledges that wo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@smashbaals First, the reason only women meet is because you told them males can

@smashbaals First, the reason only women meet is because you told them males can’t be present when a woman is teaching. Second, false teaching spreads from a lack of discernment which affects men as

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word for woman is the same as wife and man the same as ...

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ronhenzel The two references you provided do have the article but the following do not: - Romans 5:14 - 1 Tim 2:13-14 - Jude 14 I don't know of any instance where a person is named and then referred to as "the woman" except as you propose in this i...

@ronhenzel The two references you provided do have the article but the following do not: - Romans 5:14 - 1 Tim 2:13-14 - Jude 14 I don't know of any instance where a person is named and then referred

1 Tim 2:13-14 Romans 5:14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@MaryThurma27729 @RushiXmakima You are correct that they are synonymous in scripture. They are used interchangeably. While one may oversee multiple churches, overseeing one church or multiple churches is still performing the same function but on a ...

@MaryThurma27729 @RushiXmakima You are correct that they are synonymous in scripture. They are used interchangeably. While one may oversee multiple churches, overseeing one church or multiple church

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@DST_QA I don't make this a "hill to die on" as I have attended complementarian churches and am able to work within their restrictions. However, I find that most comp churches won't allow those who are convinced egalitarians into leadership, so it h...

@DST_QA I don't make this a "hill to die on" as I have attended complementarian churches and am able to work within their restrictions. However, I find that most comp churches won't allow those who a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@DST_QA I've believed this since around 2009 but didn't make it a big issue until the last 5 years. I was in a complementarian church (Calvary Chapel), then non-denom (egalitarian), then Baptist (mostly complementarian but shifting). In the Baptist...

@DST_QA I've believed this since around 2009 but didn't make it a big issue until the last 5 years. I was in a complementarian church (Calvary Chapel), then non-denom (egalitarian), then Baptist (mos

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ronhenzel What does "women generically" mean? Womanhood? Womanhood is to be s

@ronhenzel What does "women generically" mean? Womanhood? Womanhood is to be silent and not teach?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@MargMowczko Thanks Marg. If Paul had a specific woman in mind who he linked with the prototypical Eve, how would he refer to her? Would there be a different way to do it? Also, do you think "the woman" in vs14 is the one in v15, "She will be save...

@MargMowczko Thanks Marg. If Paul had a specific woman in mind who he linked with the prototypical Eve, how would he refer to her? Would there be a different way to do it? Also, do you think "the w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ronhenzel Most people have never heard of this term, so to the average person...it's complicated. You have extensive training in Greek and years of teaching it, so for you this is a yawner. But yes, this is not unique to Greek. I'm glad you agree...

@ronhenzel Most people have never heard of this term, so to the average person...it's complicated. You have extensive training in Greek and years of teaching it, so for you this is a yawner. But yes

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ronhenzel Next time you talk to someone and mention your wife’s name, follow it up with “the woman” and then ask your wife what she thinks of that. Is this how we normally speak? “Tamara is coming…but the woman will be late”?? Ah, but we have ano...

@ronhenzel Next time you talk to someone and mention your wife’s name, follow it up with “the woman” and then ask your wife what she thinks of that. Is this how we normally speak? “Tamara is coming…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ronhenzel However, this is the case of a noun being repeated twice, not a prono

@ronhenzel However, this is the case of a noun being repeated twice, not a pronoun; one anarthrous and one arthrous. And we have two women in this case: Eve and an unknown unnamed woman. How would P

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

Our culture has messed with pronouns (see Dawkins’ post below for a she/they problem), but the Bible shouldn’t have this problem! In this case, it’s the *verbs* that are singular and plural. Houston, do we have a problem? 🤔 Can you answer my questi...

Our culture has messed with pronouns (see Dawkins’ post below for a she/they problem), but the Bible shouldn’t have this problem! In this case, it’s the *verbs* that are singular and plural. Houston

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

In 1 Tim 2:15, who are the “she” and the “they” referring to? Options: 1. A generic woman / all women 2. Eve / all women 3. Women* / all women 4. A specific woman / her and her husband 5. Something else? *Note: some translations change the singula...

In 1 Tim 2:15, who are the “she” and the “they” referring to? Options: 1. A generic woman / all women 2. Eve / all women 3. Women* / all women 4. A specific woman / her and her husband 5. Something

1 Tim 2:15 question
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