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@carol66944 @OrinRomine But 1Ti 2:15 says “She will be saved…”. You can’t change ‘she…saved’ to ‘he…preserved,’ from ‘the woman’ to ‘Adam.’ First, Adam cannot be modified at the time of writing as he is dead. Same with Eve. Second, this doesn’t addre...

@carol66944 @OrinRomine But 1Ti 2:15 says “She will be saved…”. You can’t change ‘she…saved’ to ‘he…preserved,’ from ‘the woman’ to ‘Adam.’ First, Adam cannot be modified at the time of writing as he

1Ti 2:15 debate

@SonofCisco @5pur5y @swainslake @DBryanRhodes @TexasPreacher The OP invites speculation because it isn’t just addressing a purist focus on the ministry but on the idea that no woman should be allowed to prepare for serving in that way. And one wonder...

@SonofCisco @5pur5y @swainslake @DBryanRhodes @TexasPreacher The OP invites speculation because it isn’t just addressing a purist focus on the ministry but on the idea that no woman should be allowed

@AttorneyBrand @Prov_Standards Well, the Bible doesn’t say that all the scripture is about Christ. And we shouldn’t force Him in unnaturally. That said, there are so many types, shadows, thematic fulfillments, direct prophecies, and a man-figure who ...

@AttorneyBrand @Prov_Standards Well, the Bible doesn’t say that all the scripture is about Christ. And we shouldn’t force Him in unnaturally. That said, there are so many types, shadows, thematic fulf

@jhayes1189 Every tongue will confess either due to the force of being confronted by the eternal judge of the universe or their willing submission before that time. All are made alive, yes, but the second resurrection is for the unrighteous dead who...

@jhayes1189 Every tongue will confess either due to the force of being confronted by the eternal judge of the universe or their willing submission before that time. All are made alive, yes, but the s

@carol66944 @OrinRomine I believe that in the context Paul was reaching for an o

@carol66944 @OrinRomine I believe that in the context Paul was reaching for an older Attic meaning to connect the fall in Eden with this deceived wife who is teaching heresy and needs salvation (ie “s

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@JohnHar63885981 In Koine Greek, if you wanted to include both male and female g

@JohnHar63885981 In Koine Greek, if you wanted to include both male and female generally, you would use the masculine form.

@BronWen727104 @Paula_333 Here’s from Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of

@BronWen727104 @Paula_333 Here’s from Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of the Old and New Testament Words. https://t.co/7xMkhMNuCU

RT @ryanschatz: A common objection to women serving as pastors cites 1 Timothy 3

RT @ryanschatz: A common objection to women serving as pastors cites 1 Timothy 3:2: "An overseer must be... the husband of one wife." Does…

1 Timothy 3:2 general

1Ti 2:12 1Tim 2:12 commentary

@smashbaals Smash needs to re-read 1Tim 2:12 in context. Paul wasn’t stopping anyone from teaching the truth. 1Ti 2:12 isn’t a universal ban on women teaching. Paul addresses a specific wife who was deceived and teaching error, and her husband who r...

@smashbaals Smash needs to re-read 1Tim 2:12 in context. Paul wasn’t stopping anyone from teaching the truth. 1Ti 2:12 isn’t a universal ban on women teaching. Paul addresses a specific wife who was

@OrinRomine No, the context is that Paul wrote to Timothy to remind him to “remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach strange doctrines…” (1Ti 1:3). Paul reiterates, “I am writing these things to you, hoping to come ...

@OrinRomine No, the context is that Paul wrote to Timothy to remind him to “remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach strange doctrines…” (1Ti 1:3). Paul reiterates,

1Ti 1:3 debate

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 That’s a false statement.

@SingnRing Yes, it’s a big issue for women. Hopefully I can help move the needle

@SingnRing Yes, it’s a big issue for women. Hopefully I can help move the needle and if not, help women not feel condemned for allowing the Holy Spirit to use them in ways that their church may disall

@OrinRomine Where does scripture say “in a worship service”? Our modern concept

@OrinRomine Where does scripture say “in a worship service”? Our modern concept of a ‘worship service’ is foreign to the New Testament.

@SteveK49779 @Godly_Gov @Truth_matters20 That’s very creative, I’ll give you that. However, this idea is not found in Genesis. There’s no mention of Moses sleeping or receiving visions in Gen 1. The text itself doesn’t present the creation days as v...

@SteveK49779 @Godly_Gov @Truth_matters20 That’s very creative, I’ll give you that. However, this idea is not found in Genesis. There’s no mention of Moses sleeping or receiving visions in Gen 1. The

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Where are you getting this from? These are not sound a

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Where are you getting this from? These are not sound arguments. https://t.co/Gc54Pibhqi

@mennodarren @bethecreed Yes, Darren! Thanks for posting the scripture and highl

@mennodarren @bethecreed Yes, Darren! Thanks for posting the scripture and highlighting it clearly!

@SingnRing @Crystalisives Yes, and many are confused by scriptures that appear to restrict or even forbid them from participating or serving in various capacities, leaving them walking on eggshells wondering if they have transgressed some commandment...

@SingnRing @Crystalisives Yes, and many are confused by scriptures that appear to restrict or even forbid them from participating or serving in various capacities, leaving them walking on eggshells wo

@Conservati90559 But preaching Christ is what the entire scriptures are about. Further, Mt 28:18-20 commands all disciples to teach everything Jesus commanded the first ones. Are men supposed to take authority over anyone in the church? Because auth...

@Conservati90559 But preaching Christ is what the entire scriptures are about. Further, Mt 28:18-20 commands all disciples to teach everything Jesus commanded the first ones. Are men supposed to take

Mt 28:18-20 debate

@FlyingHowitzer You are referring to 1Ti 1:12. It’s not referring to pastors, the context of the letter is stopping false teaching, the grammar is explicitly singular and the ‘the woman’ gives us evidence that there’s a specific woman who is deceived...

@FlyingHowitzer You are referring to 1Ti 1:12. It’s not referring to pastors, the context of the letter is stopping false teaching, the grammar is explicitly singular and the ‘the woman’ gives us evid

1Ti 1:12 commentary

@Ashwin_Vengayil @Truth_matters20 That’s a very plausible solution assuming they are unbiased in how they are taking the measurements. But obviously for Adam to see the stars they would have to be made to have the light teach him in days. Maybe the w...

@Ashwin_Vengayil @Truth_matters20 That’s a very plausible solution assuming they are unbiased in how they are taking the measurements. But obviously for Adam to see the stars they would have to be mad

@BronWen727104 @Paula_333 But then who are the 'they'? It is 'she will...if they <do things>'? What if these women were weaving jewelry into their hair to try to show who to trust because of the false teaching spreading. Paul didn't want them ...

@BronWen727104 @Paula_333 But then who are the 'they'? It is 'she will...if they <do things>'? What if these women were weaving jewelry into their hair to try to show who to trust because of th

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Jesus also didn't choose a Gentile as one of his 12 ap

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Jesus also didn't choose a Gentile as one of his 12 apostles. So by the same logic you are using regarding women, how is any leader in the church allowed to be a Gentile?

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 What happens to women who don't bear children? Can the

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 What happens to women who don't bear children? Can they be saved?

@Paula_333 The fruit you have seen is of someone who exposits scripture in a way

@Paula_333 The fruit you have seen is of someone who exposits scripture in a way that makes sense of the context, the audience, the grammar and all details So because I disagree with your husband, th

Mt 7:16-21 debate

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Interesting way of discerning and interpreting scriptu

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Interesting way of discerning and interpreting scripture. What if your husband and I disagree?

@Paula_333 @Saved5872 @MikeWingerii Yes, and that meaning is discovered by the context! These are not merely idioms, but sometimes Jesus says things like “you must eat my flesh and drink my blood” which isn’t an idiom but you can’t take the “plain me...

@Paula_333 @Saved5872 @MikeWingerii Yes, and that meaning is discovered by the context! These are not merely idioms, but sometimes Jesus says things like “you must eat my flesh and drink my blood” whi

@Paula_333 Take the arguments I have provided in their context and prove them wr

@Paula_333 Take the arguments I have provided in their context and prove them wrong. Please. Just do it.

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Paula, you’ve said yourself that women are more easily

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 Paula, you’ve said yourself that women are more easily deceived. Given that belief, how can you be sure you aren’t deceived on this subject—and that I, a man, whom you believ

@Paula_333 You don’t know my motives and you are not God, so I suggest to stick

@Paula_333 You don’t know my motives and you are not God, so I suggest to stick with facts that you can easily discern. Let’s talk about ‘plain meaning’, shall we? Because whatever that means it cann

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@Emotionscoach The claim that egalitarian teaching harms marriage is a ridiculou

@Emotionscoach The claim that egalitarian teaching harms marriage is a ridiculous claim. Especially when he himself decides by consensus like we do. I would like to know in what way it harms marriage

1Co 14:34-35 1Co 7:1 debate

@Paula_333 No, that's not it. Paul is clearly responding to things that the Corinthians wrote (see 1Co 7:1), but there are not quotation marks in the Greek manuscript, so you have to infer the quotes. 1Co 14:34-35 clearly stand out from the rest of t...

@Paula_333 No, that's not it. Paul is clearly responding to things that the Corinthians wrote (see 1Co 7:1), but there are not quotation marks in the Greek manuscript, so you have to infer the quotes.

@Emotionscoach @B_Christs_Amb @MikeWingerii And Mike also misreads these scholars a number of times. And I disagree with a number of conclusions from egalitarians, but who can blame them as they are seeing legitimate problems with the complementarian...

@Emotionscoach @B_Christs_Amb @MikeWingerii And Mike also misreads these scholars a number of times. And I disagree with a number of conclusions from egalitarians, but who can blame them as they are s

@Paula_333 Why shouldn't a woman teach truth to a man? Can men not handle truth

@Paula_333 Why shouldn't a woman teach truth to a man? Can men not handle truth coming from a woman? What is wrong with men that they can't stand to hear God's word and truth spoken by a woman?

@Paula_333 Also, that 1Ti 2:12-14 applies to teaching in the church isn't what is being stated. Paul is writing Timothy to deal with strange (ie. false) teaching, not to stop the teaching of truth by anyone. Nowhere is 'authentein' being used positiv...

@Paula_333 Also, that 1Ti 2:12-14 applies to teaching in the church isn't what is being stated. Paul is writing Timothy to deal with strange (ie. false) teaching, not to stop the teaching of truth by

1Ti 2:12-14 general

@Paula_333 Can women teach male children? At what age can they no longer teach t

@Paula_333 Can women teach male children? At what age can they no longer teach them? I challenge you to support the idea from the Bible that "preaching is to be done by qualified elders, ie, exclusive

Complementarians say God gave Adam authority over Eve—and by extension, husbands over wives. But Adam was the one who failed (Ro 5:12). He wasn’t deceived, yet didn’t guard the garden or his own flesh, Eve. If failed shepherds are removed, why woul...

Complementarians say God gave Adam authority over Eve—and by extension, husbands over wives. But Adam was the one who failed (Ro 5:12). He wasn’t deceived, yet didn’t guard the garden or his own fles

Ro 5:12 question

@Paula_333 So teaching true doctrine about Christ is not allowed? Preaching in s

@Paula_333 So teaching true doctrine about Christ is not allowed? Preaching in scripture was only ever done towards unbelievers. In the church, it was teaching, exhortation, edification, encouragement

Imagine Paul rejoicing when Christ is proclaimed even under false pretences, but then stopping women from doing so. Paul's rejoicing that in every way Christ is preached doesn't make sense of the idea of women being prevented from preaching Christ b...

Imagine Paul rejoicing when Christ is proclaimed even under false pretences, but then stopping women from doing so. Paul's rejoicing that in every way Christ is preached doesn't make sense of the ide

Imagine Jesus saying "Do not stop him...for the one who is not against us is for us" but then being against women preaching the gospel or shepherding people to be followers of Jesus. Jesus' own actions don't correspond to the idea of restricting wom...

Imagine Jesus saying "Do not stop him...for the one who is not against us is for us" but then being against women preaching the gospel or shepherding people to be followers of Jesus. Jesus' own actio

@buffalo_lo_lo8 @JSmith95974 @TexasPreacher If a man can't learn theology when w

@buffalo_lo_lo8 @JSmith95974 @TexasPreacher If a man can't learn theology when women are in the room, then maybe this is evidence they shouldn't be a pastor. Might be a good test actually.

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 I’m not downplaying God’s design for men to be physically stronger. I’m just saying that it has nothing to do with the idea that the husband is supposedly to rule his wife or veto all decisions or hypothetically jump ...

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 I’m not downplaying God’s design for men to be physically stronger. I’m just saying that it has nothing to do with the idea that the husband is supposedly to rule his

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 You have trained your so-called common sense to

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 You have trained your so-called common sense to fit your pre-existing worldview. You need to retrain it with scripture by reading it in context.

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@cb75075 @Rach4Patriarchy I’m not using edge cases. What edge cases? I work with a number of women Jn engineering who are fully qualified and capable. Some are better than 99% of the men. I support Israel’s egalitarianism. Why would I want women to ...

@cb75075 @Rach4Patriarchy I’m not using edge cases. What edge cases? I work with a number of women Jn engineering who are fully qualified and capable. Some are better than 99% of the men. I support I

@thebrighttunnel @Rach4Patriarchy No, that is completely false. Paul nowhere forbids women from serving as elders! 1Ti 3 uses masculine forms in the grammar but in Koine Greek, the male form can be used when intending either men or women. And Is 3:...

@thebrighttunnel @Rach4Patriarchy No, that is completely false. Paul nowhere forbids women from serving as elders! 1Ti 3 uses masculine forms in the grammar but in Koine Greek, the male form can be us

Is 3:12 debate

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Those “he’s” you are referring to are inferred. There isn’t a single explicit male pronoun in these passages in the Greek. Even still, in Koine Greek, the male form is often used when speaking generically. So to forbid wome...

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Those “he’s” you are referring to are inferred. There isn’t a single explicit male pronoun in these passages in the Greek. Even still, in Koine Greek, the male form is often

@LamoralOfEgmont @CoreyJMahler Paul’s comments in Rom 11 were after the coming of the Messiah. Paul didn’t curse the Jews like you. He treated them preferentially concerning the preaching of the gospel and when they refused to believe he prayed for t...

@LamoralOfEgmont @CoreyJMahler Paul’s comments in Rom 11 were after the coming of the Messiah. Paul didn’t curse the Jews like you. He treated them preferentially concerning the preaching of the gospe

@thebrighttunnel @Rach4Patriarchy I am not conflating anything. I never said women were stronger than men in general. And conserving the actual Biblical intention should be considered true conservatism. Tell me please: were women equally saved befor...

@thebrighttunnel @Rach4Patriarchy I am not conflating anything. I never said women were stronger than men in general. And conserving the actual Biblical intention should be considered true conservatis

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 I refuse to talk about your mental capacity as that doesn’t contribute to the discussion in any way whatsoever. My point was that the wife doesn’t just sit there and do nothing if protecting is required and her stron...

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 I refuse to talk about your mental capacity as that doesn’t contribute to the discussion in any way whatsoever. My point was that the wife doesn’t just sit there and

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Also, the passages you listed about the requirements for elders do not say that an elder must not be a woman. The fact that they both use an idiom, directly translated ‘one woman man’ or ‘one wife husband’ is an idiom. When...

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Also, the passages you listed about the requirements for elders do not say that an elder must not be a woman. The fact that they both use an idiom, directly translated ‘one

@EricisAmerican @Protestia But you said “further, there is no New Testament mention of any woman being a pastor” ⎯ but there is no one, not even a man, who is called pastor (poimen) in the NT except Christ. And no one is called elder except Peter and...

@EricisAmerican @Protestia But you said “further, there is no New Testament mention of any woman being a pastor” ⎯ but there is no one, not even a man, who is called pastor (poimen) in the NT except C