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@ymmotrojam The Amplified Bible says that anyone who doesn’t recognize the Lord’s commandments (throughout chapter 14) is to be disregarded and not recognized. The ISV says "he should be ignored." Those who refuse to acknowledge that it is the comm...

@ymmotrojam The Amplified Bible says that anyone who doesn’t recognize the Lord’s commandments (throughout chapter 14) is to be disregarded and not recognized. The ISV says "he should be ignored." T

@ymmotrojam Tom, I'm going to prophesy to you over X... You have seen a woman w

@ymmotrojam Tom, I'm going to prophesy to you over X... You have seen a woman who speaks in church as unclean to this point. But what God has cleansed, NO LONGER CONSIDER UNCLEAN.

1 Cor 14:34 1 Tim 2:11 1 Tim 3:15 general

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the faith with a clear conscience, etc)⎯it also doesn't ...

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the fa

@ymmotrojam “On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.” (Acts 20:7, NASB 2020) >> This is descriptive ...

@ymmotrojam “On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.” (Ac

Acts 20:7 general

@ymmotrojam So a woman can bump into 5 church friends at Walmart, gather in a ci

@ymmotrojam So a woman can bump into 5 church friends at Walmart, gather in a circle and pray out loud for each other and prophesy, but if they did this in the formal gathering, they would be sinning?

@ymmotrojam Can you point out where Paul states that a woman speaking in a specific type of gathering is called a SIN? (this detail is important⎯it should be very clear that this is a SIN). Additionally, does Paul specify that the sinfulness of an ...

@ymmotrojam Can you point out where Paul states that a woman speaking in a specific type of gathering is called a SIN? (this detail is important⎯it should be very clear that this is a SIN). Addition

@ymmotrojam It's the number of people all speaking at the same time in foreign t

@ymmotrojam It's the number of people all speaking at the same time in foreign tongues that Paul is concerned about. You don't see that?

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Sin is sin. It's not about sincerity or my heart's d

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Sin is sin. It's not about sincerity or my heart's desire. So you are ok with me going to Hell? Would you ever attend my church and fellowship with us as fellow believers

@ymmotrojam Read what I said again then look at the context and tell me that doe

@ymmotrojam Read what I said again then look at the context and tell me that doesn't make sense. Paul is not establishing what it means to have an official vs unofficial gathering.

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@ymmotrojam Again, you are making up this whole idea of formal/informal, and it only causes confusion, especially when you tie it to sin. Further, Paul's instruction was actually NOT to cover one's head. That includes women. Except if a woman is m...

@ymmotrojam Again, you are making up this whole idea of formal/informal, and it only causes confusion, especially when you tie it to sin. Further, Paul's instruction was actually NOT to cover one's h

@ymmotrojam Ok, but you are literally making this up. The church is the people...whoever can make it...whether they knew about a formal invite or not. So every woman is going to come and say "Hey, pastor, was there a formal invite that went out? I...

@ymmotrojam Ok, but you are literally making this up. The church is the people...whoever can make it...whether they knew about a formal invite or not. So every woman is going to come and say "Hey, p

@ymmotrojam Paul's point here is constructing a sort of worst case scenario, that is⎯if the entire church gathers and a large group all speaks in foreign tongues, there will be no way anyone could understand anything. It's one thing if 5 people are ...

@ymmotrojam Paul's point here is constructing a sort of worst case scenario, that is⎯if the entire church gathers and a large group all speaks in foreign tongues, there will be no way anyone could und

@ymmotrojam If I were a woman in your church, I would consider the Bible study t

@ymmotrojam If I were a woman in your church, I would consider the Bible study to be my church. That is where I would feel God is able to use me without restriction. I would tolerate Sunday morning

@ymmotrojam This makes this prohibition very confusing. If you have a gathering that is studying scripture and communing together and women can speak and share, but in the case of a full gathering they have to be silent or otherwise be in rebellion ...

@ymmotrojam This makes this prohibition very confusing. If you have a gathering that is studying scripture and communing together and women can speak and share, but in the case of a full gathering th

@ymmotrojam #3 should be the purpose of getting together in any and every context. But sometimes people get together to do something other than opening the Word, breaking bread and prayer. By the way, does your church eat together every Sunday? I ...

@ymmotrojam #3 should be the purpose of getting together in any and every context. But sometimes people get together to do something other than opening the Word, breaking bread and prayer. By the wa

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Rather, it is those in the church that say God prefers one biological sex over the other (even though He saves both) that may in fact be the impetus causing much of the cultural backlash and overshoot. But at any rate, I d...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Rather, it is those in the church that say God prefers one biological sex over the other (even though He saves both) that may in fact be the impetus causing much of the cult

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 If a church goes egalitarian in rebellion to what they think is the clear teaching of the text, this spells problems. I agree with that. But that is not what I and my church are doing. We don’t believe that these scriptu...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 If a church goes egalitarian in rebellion to what they think is the clear teaching of the text, this spells problems. I agree with that. But that is not what I and my chur

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they value males more highly than females. You say it’s ju...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they valu

@ZacharyGarris This is not true. After considerable study and reflection, I believe I am following the scripture accurately by being egalitarian. I’m telling Christians how I believe the scripture is consistent with this view and how one is not vio...

@ZacharyGarris This is not true. After considerable study and reflection, I believe I am following the scripture accurately by being egalitarian. I’m telling Christians how I believe the scripture i

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 That's great! I'm not contending that people don't submit to this structure and that it can't work. My energy is on this topic because of those who are causing division in the body because of it. BTW, there was a group c...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 That's great! I'm not contending that people don't submit to this structure and that it can't work. My energy is on this topic because of those who are causing division in

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Ok. I realize that you are trying to take the scripture seriously⎯which is commendable. So long as you don't look down on your brothers and sisters who see these non-primary matters differently, that you don't see us in s...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Ok. I realize that you are trying to take the scripture seriously⎯which is commendable. So long as you don't look down on your brothers and sisters who see these non-prima

@RushiXmakima Thanks for contributing! I agree that at least the way we view pastors today goes beyond what they were in the first churches. Today we seem to desire a charismatic leader, someone who will just tell us what to do, rather than someone...

@RushiXmakima Thanks for contributing! I agree that at least the way we view pastors today goes beyond what they were in the first churches. Today we seem to desire a charismatic leader, someone who

@ymmotrojam What do you define to be a church? How many have to gather? What m

@ymmotrojam What do you define to be a church? How many have to gather? What makes it official? Must it be in a building with a pulpit and an amplification system to be official? Is a Bible study

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 You have to conclude this because otherwise you have

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 You have to conclude this because otherwise you have Paul contradicting himself. I do not have this problem. I think the burden of proof is on the one restricting.

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Balance does not equate to only males speaking. Many churches today only have the pastor and maybe one other person speaking, so what you are saying to restrict women from speaking from the front doesn't make much differen...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Balance does not equate to only males speaking. Many churches today only have the pastor and maybe one other person speaking, so what you are saying to restrict women from

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 You are explicitly commanded to not forbid speaking in tongues. And if you do not forbid this, then speaking in an intelligent language (which is far better according to Paul) should not be forbidden either. But you are f...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 You are explicitly commanded to not forbid speaking in tongues. And if you do not forbid this, then speaking in an intelligent language (which is far better according to Pa

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Singing is just speaking put to music. If she cannot speak then she cannot sing. That would be taking away the glory of a man. In church only males can have God’s glory. Women should be sitting silently and listening to the...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Singing is just speaking put to music. If she cannot speak then she cannot sing. That would be taking away the glory of a man. In church only males can have God’s glory. Wom

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So women cannot speak or sing then? You said their r

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So women cannot speak or sing then? You said their role in church was to be silent.

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So it is shameful, filthy nakedness, base, sordid, sh

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So it is shameful, filthy nakedness, base, sordid, shameful to speak in church...but they can sing? Or are they also not allowed to sing?

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Not "ugly," but the Greek word means disgraceful, sha

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Not "ugly," but the Greek word means disgraceful, shameful, base or sordid, filthy nakedness. Don't believe me? Do you believe John MacArthur? https://t.co/ftRFBtx7Wn

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 I know what will solve all problems... if church were

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 I know what will solve all problems... if church were held in a monastery and all were silent. Wait⎯but then we've got that pesky imperative "do not forbid"...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone which is what the woman in Ephesus was doing. I'm ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone w

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The church is not a building, it is any gathering of people. Prophecy is not intended to be done in your closet! It is meant for the edification, encouragement and correction of the body. What good is it to say that the ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The church is not a building, it is any gathering of people. Prophecy is not intended to be done in your closet! It is meant for the edification, encouragement and correct

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 I'm simply taking Convexity's point seriously. You c

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 I'm simply taking Convexity's point seriously. You can prophesy authoritatively...just not in church. Ok, then, outside the front door?

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam If that is the case, why isn't church just for comple

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam If that is the case, why isn't church just for complementarian men and the rest of us can meet separately and call it a gathering so that the women can participate like the

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So all doesn't mean all? It doesn't even mean all ki

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So all doesn't mean all? It doesn't even mean all kinds? It just means all males? 1 Cor 11:5 presumes women are praying and prophesying in church, but you believe that it

1 Cor 11:5 debate

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam You are undermining your own case by recognizing thes

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam You are undermining your own case by recognizing these facts. If a woman can exercise such an authoritative Scripture-level prophetic gift with men present, then what is le

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam So they can teach the Bible to children and adult wom

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam So they can teach the Bible to children and adult women, but as soon as the boy turns from 17 to 18, it's a sin?

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam What do you mean Ch 11 is not speaking about in the church? Where are they praying and prophesying? Outside the front door? In the prayer room? To themselves? So, according to your view of Ch 14, women can speak when p...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam What do you mean Ch 11 is not speaking about in the church? Where are they praying and prophesying? Outside the front door? In the prayer room? To themselves? So, accor

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explicitly identified as elders (Peter and John) - No one...

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explici

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 That is correct. If this is from Paul, then those wh

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 That is correct. If this is from Paul, then those who claim it is not calling for complete silence are wrong. But here's the caveat⎯it contradicts Paul's own statements in

@ronhenzel Kephale has different meanings including source or origin and this is

@ronhenzel Kephale has different meanings including source or origin and this is how it is being used in this passage. https://t.co/IORdUu0T3w

@WhosMe08310138 @desert_drew3 @smashbaals For sure but there are good reasons to

@WhosMe08310138 @desert_drew3 @smashbaals For sure but there are good reasons to believe it’s not Paul because of elements in the language and he identified himself in all the others because people ch

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What do you mean by be in authority over a man? Does ...

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What

@bannedby Yes! The great commission is Jesus commanding everyone of us to teach

@bannedby Yes! The great commission is Jesus commanding everyone of us to teach and disciple others to obey everything Jesus taught the apostles.

@punkpublican I'm glad you allow women to evangelize! Wouldn't that be teaching someone the gospel? Being an elder is simply teaching and correcting to what the Bible says, not making new doctrine. What makes you think that this is the domain of m...

@punkpublican I'm glad you allow women to evangelize! Wouldn't that be teaching someone the gospel? Being an elder is simply teaching and correcting to what the Bible says, not making new doctrine.

@t_mo_land @jdenehar Eph 5:21 says "and subject yourselves to one another in the bfear of Christ." This includes husbands subjecting themselves to their wives and pastors to their congregants. The Biblical call is mutual subjection, so whatever the...

@t_mo_land @jdenehar Eph 5:21 says "and subject yourselves to one another in the bfear of Christ." This includes husbands subjecting themselves to their wives and pastors to their congregants. The B

Eph 5:21 commentary

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility and a service to offer. About headship, take a loo...

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility a

@Presbyterianon No, telling you what that scripture says doesn't take 12 hours.

@Presbyterianon No, telling you what that scripture says doesn't take 12 hours. What he does here is go through most of the debate⎯and there is a lot of debate. If you want to know what 1 Tim2:11-15

1 Tim2:11-15 general

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The requirement isn't must be male. First, the comment about "one wife husband" is the only place in the Greek might indicate male, but it says husband. If Paul wasn't married and advocated for singleness, then this is no...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The requirement isn't must be male. First, the comment about "one wife husband" is the only place in the Greek might indicate male, but it says husband. If Paul wasn't mar