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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Paul was quoting from the Corinthians which likely st

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Paul was quoting from the Corinthians which likely started from "As in all the churches of the saints, women are to keep silent..." https://t.co/7Y7QxeM1ER

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Yes, Paul makes his argument from the order of creation. No, there is no mention of authority. First doesn't make superior⎯if so, the animals would rule over the man. The first born is just first, not the best. So what'...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Yes, Paul makes his argument from the order of creation. No, there is no mention of authority. First doesn't make superior⎯if so, the animals would rule over the man. The

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 In 1 Corinthians, Paul refers to the letter from the Corinthians in 1 Cor 7:1 that he is responding to. After that point, there are a number of their questions in 1 Cor 7:25; 8:1; 10:23-24; 12:1. Similarly, Paul is quotin...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 In 1 Corinthians, Paul refers to the letter from the Corinthians in 1 Cor 7:1 that he is responding to. After that point, there are a number of their questions in 1 Cor 7:2

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Cor 7:1 1 Cor 7:25 commentary

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@patrioticzeal @smashbaals I agree with your last point, but here we are talking about it and you added your opinion, so why not think about it? As you notice, he identified himself in all his letters... 13 of them. But not Hebrews, the last writte...

@patrioticzeal @smashbaals I agree with your last point, but here we are talking about it and you added your opinion, so why not think about it? As you notice, he identified himself in all his letter

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@patrioticzeal @smashbaals Did you see this? What reason can you think of as to

@patrioticzeal @smashbaals Did you see this? What reason can you think of as to why Paul would not identify himself? https://t.co/xfUlOZ6LN0

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@Yessiiiiir @MikeWingerii Paul says to Timothy in 1 Tim 1:3-4, “Just as I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach strange doctrines, nor to pay attention to myths and e...

@Yessiiiiir @MikeWingerii Paul says to Timothy in 1 Tim 1:3-4, “Just as I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach stra

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@No_Sugar_m8 @smashbaals Why would you say that Jewish believers held contempt for Paul? Paul was accepted by the leaders and members of the Jerusalem church. There were letters circulating supposedly from him but which were forgeries, so he has re...

@No_Sugar_m8 @smashbaals Why would you say that Jewish believers held contempt for Paul? Paul was accepted by the leaders and members of the Jerusalem church. There were letters circulating supposed

2 Thess 2:1-2 debate

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@Deigratia1985 I didn't say I felt that way. I'm reasoning about what mutual su

@Deigratia1985 I didn't say I felt that way. I'm reasoning about what mutual submission means (Eph 5:21) and what authority in the church must not mean. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Eph 5:21 debate

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@smashbaals Paul has authored many letters and made plain he is the author even

@smashbaals Paul has authored many letters and made plain he is the author even writing in his own hand sometimes to prove it. Hebrews is a stellar work; why would Paul not identify himself. What fa

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@3HillsMinor Are we talking again then? I’m not effeminate. I’m very much male. And I’m not twisting scripture just because you don’t agree with or like my exegesis. Paul is dealing with false teachers of any gender as false teaching does not bel...

@3HillsMinor Are we talking again then? I’m not effeminate. I’m very much male. And I’m not twisting scripture just because you don’t agree with or like my exegesis. Paul is dealing with false tea

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Paul was quoting from the Corinthians which likely st

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Yes, Paul makes his argument from the order of creation. No, there is no mention of authority. First doesn't make superior⎯if so, the animals would rule over the man. The first born is just first, not the best. So what'...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 In 1 Corinthians, Paul refers to the letter from the Corinthians in 1 Cor 7:1 that he is responding to. After that point, there are a number of their questions in 1 Cor 7:25; 8:1; 10:23-24; 12:1. Similarly, Paul is quotin...

@patrioticzeal @smashbaals I agree with your last point, but here we are talking about it and you added your opinion, so why not think about it? As you notice, he identified himself in all his letters... 13 of them. But not Hebrews, the last writte...

@patrioticzeal @smashbaals Did you see this? What reason can you think of as to

@Yessiiiiir @MikeWingerii Paul says to Timothy in 1 Tim 1:3-4, “Just as I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach strange doctrines, nor to pay attention to myths and e...

@No_Sugar_m8 @smashbaals Why would you say that Jewish believers held contempt for Paul? Paul was accepted by the leaders and members of the Jerusalem church. There were letters circulating supposedly from him but which were forgeries, so he has re...

@Deigratia1985 I didn't say I felt that way. I'm reasoning about what mutual su

@smashbaals Paul has authored many letters and made plain he is the author even

@3HillsMinor Are we talking again then? I’m not effeminate. I’m very much male. And I’m not twisting scripture just because you don’t agree with or like my exegesis. Paul is dealing with false teachers of any gender as false teaching does not bel...

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor WHAT?! Why would you think I affirm that? All I said was the Bible doesn’t restrict qualified godly women from serving in whatever capacity God has called them and which they desire. Not that they can teach false doctri...

@Deigratia1985 @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Yes, that is fine by me. You have to judge things for yourself. I think that Mike has been great in many, many respects—my only concerns have been on this issue of women in ministry but so lon...

@3HillsMinor You are entitled to your opinion. But that’s all it is—an opinion.

@3HillsMinor What authority does anyone have in the church? If my pastor says I can’t serve on the choir, I willingly submit what I want to keep the peace, but I don’t obey him because he’s the “authority.” If he says I need to obey this or that in...

@3HillsMinor Do you serve your children and their needs? Let me guess…you earn money, pay for their clothes, put a roof on them, make them dinner and clean up after and you are not subjecting yourself to fulfilling their basic needs? Who said anyth...

@3HillsMinor Show me one scripture in the entire New Testament that identifies a

@3HillsMinor You appear to have a problem with reading in context. You cannot i

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Eph 5:21 is pretty clear too: “and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ.” We submit to one another. I’ve lived this way for decades of my marriage. You should try it—it work...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning That’s what I’m contending. I’m contending this is not referring to all women because Paul explicitly uses the singular and specifies it is a specific woman because of the anaphoric reference to...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I never said wives shouldn’t submit to their husbands, only that husbands also should submit to their wives (mutual submission): “and subject yourselves **to one another** in the fear of Christ.”...

@smashbaals I’ve attended: Evangelical➡️Evangelical Free, Pentecostal, Calvary Chapel➡️Non-denom➡️Apostolic Church of Pentecost, Baptist and Reformed Church of America (the church is in the midst of leaving this denomination and joining another). Th...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Paul is most certainly an overseer! Seriously, on what basis can you substantiate your claim? He is probably the quintessential model of one⎯taking care over multiple churches, writing letters,...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Yes. Paul is both an apo

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Even Mike Winger admits that women can be deacons and yet the term “one wife husband” is also a requirement of deacons. Was Paul married? No. And he advocated for singleness—since it removes d...

@3HillsMinor @c_w_henderson @Kdubtru I am simply taking what Paul wrote seriousl

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning You are misinterpreting 1 Tim 2:12. You assume it's as clear as mud, but its just mud in the eye of the complementarians and Patriachists! Read chapter 1⎯how Paul refers to the purpose of stopp...

@MikeWingerii In the above clip, and assuming a similar approach is taken in congregational settings, I'm compelled to ask about the authority behind your teachings. Is your authority as a male based on personal interpretation, or does it hold doctr...

RT @ryanschatz: @MikeWingerii 🔍 In the clip from [1:44:48] to [1:46:15], you aga

@MikeWingerii 🔍 In the clip from [1:44:48] to [1:46:15], you again question how an egalitarian husband can avoid submitting to his wife. "Do he need to go to a different church?" you say. 🤔 But, I disagree with your interpretation of verse 12. I se...

@Christopherf6K Where is the term “role” ever mentioned in the Greek? Where does it say “leaders must not be females?” The clarity on gender restrictions in leadership is not given as you assume. Further, testifying to what Jesus previously said a...

@TeamPapuForever @graceforprize Paul was both an apostle and overseer but not a husband. So this requirement cannot mean “must be married” but rather “if married, must be faithful.” The emphasis is on the “one.” For the same reason it doesn’t requ...

@Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Sorry for the delayed response on this.

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC What we see is: &gt;&gt; all people (vv1-7) &gt;&gt; all males (v8) &gt;&gt; all females (vv9-10) &gt;&gt; a woman (v11) &gt;&gt; a woman (wife), a man (husband) (v12) &gt;&gt; Ada...

@psalm119164 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I’m just curious. What does “authority

@AlvinOchola @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren So pastors only submit to pastors? Eph 5:21 says "and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ." This obviously doesn’t mean be obedient to, but to willingly subject yourself under another. ...

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren I don’t think he was c

@ChristVictorous An elder is simply someone who has exemplary and proven godly character, is able to handle the Word rightly, is capable of teaching, patient when contradicted, able to deal gently with those who contradict and correct false teaching,...

@graceforprize What translation are you looking at? "If a man" should read "if anyone"⎯ "Εἴ τις ἐπισκοπῆς ὀρέγεται..." τις means anyone or someone, not "a man". And yes, must be able to teach, but not to be considered "the teacher" as in the buck ...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC The doctrine that came out of this was set out by the Apostles⎯James, Paul, Peter, but it was also agreed to by the WHOLE church. James was the leader in this judgment but in verse 22 it was the whole church which inclu...

@graceforprize So women can teach ONLY the following: - WHO: younger women who are married - WHAT: to love their husbands and children Anything else (like theology or any other instruction) and to anyone else⎯these must by taught by the husband. Si...

@graceforprize So your view is that a woman should not teach a man anything? So

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC 1 Tim 2:12⎯taken completely out of context⎯can appear clear. Don't skip the hard work of reading in context. No one is supposed to "lord it over" anyone. So if your view of having superior authority over another pers...

@melvin39056 @Kdubtru Ok, that's not what I meant. Women are certainly not donk

@sympatheticNPC @graceforprize I think, however, that we still have teachers in the church in that elders must be able to teach. So the Holy Spirit does work through people. It's just that we shouldn't consider any elder or pastor as "the teacher" ...

@cosmoofprague While testifying to the truth of something like the resurrection and the facts forming the basis is not the same as explaining new concepts (ie. teaching), one might say that testifying is more authoritative since teaching is giving so...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC While testifying to the truth of something like the resurrection and the facts forming the basis is not the same as explaining new concepts (ie. teaching), one might say that testifying is more authoritative since teach...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called ‘teachers,’ for...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC I imagine explaining and convincing is getting pr

@Isaiah45_7 I framed the poll this way because I don’t see a significant distinction between the office and the function. So if a woman doesn’t occupy the office but teaches, this to me is the same. You are free to think of me as a fool. It’s natu...

@Ashwin_Vengayil @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren I think that Mike is now supported by YouTube/X revenue, so he is no longer employed in the position of pastor in a church. I heard him state the latter recently. I’m not certain about his r...

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@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I never said wives shouldn’t submit to their husbands, only that husbands also should submit to their wives (mutual submission): “and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ.”...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC What we see is: >> all people (vv1-7) >> all males (v8) >> all females (vv9-10) >> a woman (v11) >> a woman (wife), a man (husband) (v12) >> Ada...