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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@AJRigney @ZacharyGarris I don’t know if you have tried to instruct someone who is objecting constantly, but objections are frequent with false teachers because it seems they disagree on every point you make so you can’t get far. Often it takes quie...

@AJRigney @ZacharyGarris I don’t know if you have tried to instruct someone who is objecting constantly, but objections are frequent with false teachers because it seems they disagree on every point y

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@baste_goblin @vesteceleste Ask any one who knows Greek. 1 Tim 2:15 says “the (definite) childbearing (noun, singular)”—just because they don’t translate it as clearly as me spelling it out doesn’t mean I’m making this up. I have made ZERO changes ...

@baste_goblin @vesteceleste Ask any one who knows Greek. 1 Tim 2:15 says “the (definite) childbearing (noun, singular)”—just because they don’t translate it as clearly as me spelling it out doesn’t m

1 Tim 2:15 general

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@AJRigney @LandOnYourHome @ZacharyGarris Regarding context, you have a wholehear

@AJRigney @LandOnYourHome @ZacharyGarris Regarding context, you have a wholehearted agree from me! We also cannot ignore the specific grammar Paul used. And carefully examine his back references in

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@AJRigney @ZacharyGarris There’s nothing in this verse that suggests the issue is interruptions. The context is dealing with false teachers, and so the most natural explanation is that there is a deceived woman teaching false doctrine whose non-dece...

@AJRigney @ZacharyGarris There’s nothing in this verse that suggests the issue is interruptions. The context is dealing with false teachers, and so the most natural explanation is that there is a dec

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@cody_floate Yes, and the basis for this is not ignoring scripture, but rightly

@cody_floate Yes, and the basis for this is not ignoring scripture, but rightly dividing it. https://t.co/rBGS8Fof6Y

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@JakeRainwater 1 Tim 2:12 is one of the most misused passages in the New Testament these days. Without addressing the specific context of Paul’s letter, the grammar and his references in their context, how can one claim to understand what Paul is me...

@JakeRainwater 1 Tim 2:12 is one of the most misused passages in the New Testament these days. Without addressing the specific context of Paul’s letter, the grammar and his references in their contex

1 Tim 2:12 commentary

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@baste_goblin You keep throwing around that cult term to try to discredit me, but technically it refers to those who deny the fundamentals of the faith. Whether women can preach or teach or lead, or the specifics of one’s interpretation of 1 Tim 2:1...

@baste_goblin You keep throwing around that cult term to try to discredit me, but technically it refers to those who deny the fundamentals of the faith. Whether women can preach or teach or lead, or

1 Tim 2:15 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@baste_goblin The Greek is not a translation…it’s the manuscript that all translations are based on. If the original (well the copies of the original) have the definite article, then you can’t just ignore it. Also, childbearing is a noun not a verb...

@baste_goblin The Greek is not a translation…it’s the manuscript that all translations are based on. If the original (well the copies of the original) have the definite article, then you can’t just i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@baste_goblin It's in the Greek. People miss things all the time. I don't thin

@baste_goblin It's in the Greek. People miss things all the time. I don't think most translators know what to do with this verse, one of the most puzzling verses in the New Testament. τῆς is the ar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Hi Ron! So “She will be saved” applies to Eve? Isn’t

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Hi Ron! So “She will be saved” applies to Eve? Isn’t Eve dead when Paul wrote this? How can she do anything to affect her salvation?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@scorpion_bird @ChristnNitemare That makes no sense. And that’s not what Paul i

@scorpion_bird @ChristnNitemare That makes no sense. And that’s not what Paul is teaching either. https://t.co/rBGS8Fof6Y

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@Mr_Clean2120 @amydiehl One needs to be able to explain scripture. Just listing

@Mr_Clean2120 @amydiehl One needs to be able to explain scripture. Just listing it is not an argument when I showed it doesn’t prove your point.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@ZacharyGarris @wintrwizrd That verse is not speaking generically of all women.

@ZacharyGarris @wintrwizrd That verse is not speaking generically of all women. The grammar has to make sense and Paul using the singular. https://t.co/rBGS8Fof6Y

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-21

@ZacharyGarris Now, I haven’t reviewed what this lady is teaching, but godly women should not be prevented from teaching correct doctrine whether it’s to women or men. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is typically used to restrict women. However, in context and with ...

@ZacharyGarris Now, I haven’t reviewed what this lady is teaching, but godly women should not be prevented from teaching correct doctrine whether it’s to women or men. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is typically used

@AJRigney @ZacharyGarris I don’t know if you have tried to instruct someone who is objecting constantly, but objections are frequent with false teachers because it seems they disagree on every point you make so you can’t get far. Often it takes quie...

@baste_goblin @vesteceleste Ask any one who knows Greek. 1 Tim 2:15 says “the (definite) childbearing (noun, singular)”—just because they don’t translate it as clearly as me spelling it out doesn’t mean I’m making this up. I have made ZERO changes ...

@AJRigney @LandOnYourHome @ZacharyGarris Regarding context, you have a wholehear

@AJRigney @ZacharyGarris There’s nothing in this verse that suggests the issue is interruptions. The context is dealing with false teachers, and so the most natural explanation is that there is a deceived woman teaching false doctrine whose non-dece...

@cody_floate Yes, and the basis for this is not ignoring scripture, but rightly

@JakeRainwater 1 Tim 2:12 is one of the most misused passages in the New Testament these days. Without addressing the specific context of Paul’s letter, the grammar and his references in their context, how can one claim to understand what Paul is me...

@baste_goblin You keep throwing around that cult term to try to discredit me, but technically it refers to those who deny the fundamentals of the faith. Whether women can preach or teach or lead, or the specifics of one’s interpretation of 1 Tim 2:1...

@baste_goblin The Greek is not a translation…it’s the manuscript that all translations are based on. If the original (well the copies of the original) have the definite article, then you can’t just ignore it. Also, childbearing is a noun not a verb...

@baste_goblin It's in the Greek. People miss things all the time. I don't thin

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Hi Ron! So “She will be saved” applies to Eve? Isn’t

@scorpion_bird @ChristnNitemare That makes no sense. And that’s not what Paul i

@Mr_Clean2120 @amydiehl One needs to be able to explain scripture. Just listing

@ZacharyGarris @wintrwizrd That verse is not speaking generically of all women.

@ZacharyGarris Now, I haven’t reviewed what this lady is teaching, but godly women should not be prevented from teaching correct doctrine whether it’s to women or men. 1 Tim 2:11-15 is typically used to restrict women. However, in context and with ...

@Mr_Clean2120 @amydiehl So based of you to list scripture, Mr. Anonymous.

@Mr_Clean2120 @amydiehl Have you even read the commentaries on this passage? They are all over the place, inconsistent, contradictory. Many even say outright that they don’t know what it means…especially verse 15. What historical interpretation of...

RT @drbrudd: As a pastor, sometimes responsible for 50+ staff, I learned, too sl

@2b_censored @autocorrect2_0 @DezGroves You are right that Paul was not using th

@pauldirks @pj_schreiner Are you of the persuasion that these differences you see in males and females will persist into the next age where there is no marriage or giving in marriage (nor procreation)? Second: would you consider 1 Cor 6:2-3 to apply...

@DefendTheSheep It’s a pity because after studying these hard passages in more detail we find that Paul wasn’t restricting women at all. His reference to Eve’s deception is only tied to the creation order and not something in her chromosomes. His f...

@gleasondj @narelleford @FrontiersIn @FrontEndocrinol But Paul was quoting from the letter the Corinthians wrote him (see 1 Cor 7:1) and in 1 Cor 14:34-35 this is a quote from that letter—he refutes them in v36: "What? came the word of God out from y...

@masonmennenga What is the evidence Paul didn’t write 1 Timothy? This is a clas

@laurchas22 But find another group of sincere believers who are true to the scri

@autocorrect2_0 Most seem to get the idea there is a hierarchy of authority from

@RichAH67 @Lily_Warrior @YoungVi42770165 @pastherandie @carlaskaufel Paul, Peter

@renoomokri However, in that passage, Paul was actually quoting from the letter

@AZEEZABDUL96502 @alakijaofficial This is not what Paul meant. You are mistaken

@Lily_Warrior @YoungVi42770165 @pastherandie @carlaskaufel If we understand Paul

@pastherandie @davidwrobertson @YoungVi42770165 1 Tim 2:15 is critical to unders

@notofthischurch @Soteriology101 @IkeLifeLike @joel_budreau The woman sinned first but scripture says it is through one man that sin entered laying the blame on Adam, this because he sinned with knowledge and was not deceived like Eve. The reason is...

@PwnMonger @BenZeisloft @HwsEleutheroi Mary showed faith in Jesus and Jesus responded to her request just like many others later in Jesus’ ministry. Jesus came to serve and not be served. But this does not mean that you need Mary to take your reque...

@michael_112358 @FringeViews What Paul wrote is scripture as even the Apostle Peter says: "and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his l...

@burly_ernie @Magpie_Hunter @firefighter4u @smashbaals This is what the Bible says: "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6) When you go through Mary to get to Jesus ...

Here’s a short summary of how I think an egalitarian interpretation makes the mo

Looks like there are quite a few who want to hear what Mike has to say in respon

@ZoneChaos @WhyRWeHere99 No need to disagree with Paul. Just need to understand

@lyn_kidson Not sure what was said, but there’s a biblically consistent and fait

@Cassidy4Truth @TheEcho13 Is this church? Is she teaching you theology? If not

@Illusive_Smiles @oFilthyy That’s an interesting take. So a guy who tells you to be quiet is being “effeminate” which means you now can pull out your handy prooftext and use it to silence a man sharing his opinions on X?! If you don’t like what som...

@OregonTrashTalk @metathomist The pope is wrong on this. So many misread Paul’s

@RandallVaughn14 @AlanChilde36050 @Moonwood570 @5Solas2 I have a question to ask you: what authority does a pastor have? If he tells you to do something that contradicts the Bible or violates your conscience, will you listen? If he says you cannot ...

@Wll24986 @Protestia I consider 1 Tim 2:11-15 “real” and consider myself to be c

@AdamPage85 @brian_lester88 @tomcatpdx5000 You are right that the order of creation is significant, but in this case Paul is using Adam and Eve as a template for a couple in Ephesus where the deceived wife is teaching false doctrine and the husband w...

@realAndresP @Provokatov Isn’t she just talking? That scripture was about teaching false doctrine in church. What does that have to do with a woman sharing her opinions on X? If you want to continue using this verse, you should maybe look at it mo...

@htt_tnd Would it help if a man posted something instead? I think it is naive to think that Paul’s intent in that passage was to suggest that a woman speaking true things should be stopped because only a man is allowed to do so. Perhaps it’s time t...

@TopGpsy @BritMartinez @pearlythingz And a good man doesn’t take scripture out o

@mrpaulscotti @jacrabtree66 @MelonieMac It’s pretty simple to quote something. But to actually explain what Paul is saying in that passage is not as simple. For example, what do you think he means by “She will be saved through childbearing if they…...

@stiiiiiiine @ijbolistani @dirvarda I know that this is a pretty common understanding of that passage, but I don’t believe that when you consider all the evidence in this passage and the back references Paul uses that he is saying this. I believe he...

@WWUTTcom This idea of holding a specific office as the grave concern of the Apostles seems odd. Do you listen to someone more because of the office they hold? If they speak with authority, does that mean they are always right so you can just stop ...

@DougGroothuis “Thus, Paul does not bar women from ministries that involve teaching and/or having authority over men (whether locally or universally). Rather, when Paul says that a woman must neither teach nor authentein a man, **he has in mind what ...

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