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@Pathfinder4545 So women will have authority over men in the next age?

@InnovationHQ2 I’m just trying to get people to think, silly. So what say you?

@InnovationHQ2 I’m just trying to get people to think, silly. So what say you? The clear teaching of Paul is that women will judge the world and angels.

@subq Right, Mike thinks women being under the authority of men is only for this life in the church age. Is that what you think too? For what reason would God limit women from authoritative roles when they are just going to go all the way in the ne...

@subq Right, Mike thinks women being under the authority of men is only for this life in the church age. Is that what you think too? For what reason would God limit women from authoritative roles wh

@ronhenzel @Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @smashbaals Ok, ignore the part about

@ronhenzel @Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @smashbaals Ok, ignore the part about women. I’m a man. Would I be in sin to preach a sermon if I don’t hold the office of pastor?

@ronhenzel @Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @smashbaals Ok, there is a difference

@ronhenzel @Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @smashbaals Ok, there is a difference between scattered interactive conversation and preparing a teaching sermon. Sure. But why is one a sin for women to per

@Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals If Paul’s statements are general in 1Ti 2:11-12 for all women, then it should apply regardless if there is an Artemis cult or not—for all the churches. Why make a specific statement for “a woman”...

@Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals If Paul’s statements are general in 1Ti 2:11-12 for all women, then it should apply regardless if there is an Artemis cult or not—for all the chu

1Ti 2:11-12 question

@BigYehudah @riemersonck It does apply—to anyone including women like this parti

@BigYehudah @riemersonck It does apply—to anyone including women like this particular one in Ephesus who was teaching serious false doctrine. False teaching was what Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to st

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals There’s no example of pastors because no one is specifically identified as pastor. There’s no example of an elder because the only two explicitly stated are John and Peter and they are self proc...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals There’s no example of pastors because no one is specifically identified as pastor. There’s no example of an elder because the only two explicitl

@riemersonck Now you are getting my point. There were Romans and other Gentiles that feared God yet Jesus didn’t pick them. Maybe he had a reason for picking those 12 Jewish males and that has nothing to do with whether Gentiles or women are allowed...

@riemersonck Now you are getting my point. There were Romans and other Gentiles that feared God yet Jesus didn’t pick them. Maybe he had a reason for picking those 12 Jewish males and that has nothin

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Is scripture not God insp

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Is scripture not God inspired? Is not proclaiming scripture God inspired? You are splitting hairs. If women can proclaim inspired prophecy surel

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals You keep repeating yourself thinking that if you keep saying this that it means women preachers are in sin. Feel free to only have male preachers, but you need to give grace to include faithful ...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals You keep repeating yourself thinking that if you keep saying this that it means women preachers are in sin. Feel free to only have male preacher

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals "But Saul began ravaging the church, entering house after house; and he would drag away men and women and put them in prison. Therefore, those who had been scattered went through places prea...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals "But Saul began ravaging the church, entering house after house; and he would drag away men **and women** and put them in prison. Therefore, tho

Ac 8:3-4 debate

@tom_barmadillo Well, I don’t think my take is unique. I think it’s the view of

@tom_barmadillo Well, I don’t think my take is unique. I think it’s the view of the apostles and the church of scripture that followed the apostles closely. And yes, many or most of the “great men” d

@JunusAnna I’m not sure I’d characterize this as hate. They think it is their lo

@JunusAnna I’m not sure I’d characterize this as hate. They think it is their lot in life. They are meant to rule over women as a responsibility. PS: the complementarians I know basically live like e

@NicolasGold1 @Just_A_Man67 Complementarians and Patriarchalists are my brothers

@NicolasGold1 @Just_A_Man67 Complementarians and Patriarchalists are my brothers and sisters in Christ. While I believe Satan’s strategy is to convince people that women should be ruled and treated a

@silentrnajority @russle_p2 I’ve been debating this issue because it is an issue affecting many women in the church. It also affects men who support women in leadership as 3 local churches I was interested in wouldn’t let me ever be a leader because ...

@silentrnajority @russle_p2 I’ve been debating this issue because it is an issue affecting many women in the church. It also affects men who support women in leadership as 3 local churches I was inter

@sethhezekiah No, silly. Heresy has to do with the fundamentals of the faith. No one has to repent of mutual submission to be a Christian. All of the people you listed went along with the culture when it came to women at least to some degree or anot...

@sethhezekiah No, silly. Heresy has to do with the fundamentals of the faith. No one has to repent of mutual submission to be a Christian. All of the people you listed went along with the culture whe

@RebeccaAVelo I'm not sure that the statement "hated most people" is an accurate

@RebeccaAVelo I'm not sure that the statement "hated most people" is an accurate representation. But you are right, their view of women is very depressing. Sorry⎯I had to show the patriachalists and c

@humbledoulos The typical verses from scripture are not promoting the view of su

@humbledoulos The typical verses from scripture are not promoting the view of subduing women. Paul is dealing with false teachers in 1Tim; stopping all women from teaching is not in line with dealing

@sethhezekiah @Forms_Respecter Long before the church men were dominating women.

@sethhezekiah @Forms_Respecter Long before the church men were dominating women. It goes all the way back to Eden, I'm afraid.

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Where is a slave’s preach

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Where is a slave’s preaching highlighted? Where is a slave called an elder or pastor? The same questions you ask of women can be asked of slaves

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals I agree, God is not progressive. Yet there are some things that changed in the church like the divide between Jew and Gentile and yes, between male and female. No one is saying that it has to be 50/50. It’s not ...

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals I agree, God is not progressive. Yet there are some things that changed in the church like the divide between Jew and Gentile and yes, between male and female. N

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals No my grumpy friend. Paul was counter cult

@Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals No my grumpy friend. Paul was counter cultural. This passage is Paul’s personal instruction to Timothy whom he left behind to deal with the false teachers about h

@susie40647926 Hi Susie! It’s a struggle because something doesn’t seem right. For example, a few verses before Paul writes that women must keep silent, he writes: "…When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a to...

@susie40647926 Hi Susie! It’s a struggle because something doesn’t seem right. For example, a few verses before Paul writes that women must keep silent, he writes: "…When you assemble, each one has a

Some say that egalitarians are just letting the culture influence their view of

Some say that egalitarians are just letting the culture influence their view of scripture. Let’s take a trip down memory lane and see who is aligning more with culture, shall we? Aristotle: “Silence

@ronhenzel @smashbaals Well, all but the churches in scripture. But you are right. The church really was influenced by the culture. Let’s see just how culturally relevant your view is: Aristotle: “Silence is a woman’s glory.” Sophocles: "Silence gi...

@ronhenzel @smashbaals Well, all but the churches in scripture. But you are right. The church really was influenced by the culture. Let’s see just how culturally relevant your view is: Aristotle: “Si

@Grump_Old_Man “A man” and all the “he”‘s are inserted in English. The Greek has

@Grump_Old_Man “A man” and all the “he”‘s are inserted in English. The Greek has tis meaning anyone/someone and no other pronouns. Women is in v11 which you didn’t include in the image. Women *likewi

Except fidelity to the Biblical instruction on a matter requires proper exegesis

Except fidelity to the Biblical instruction on a matter requires proper exegesis. It doesn’t matter how red your eyes glow, the Bible does not forbid godly women from serving as pastors, elders or te

@neecygrace @pastordmack It is certainly possible that Bathsheba had nothing to do with this whatsoever and her ritual bathing was private from literally everyone except the king and that all women were bathing in the nude visible to the king. David...

@neecygrace @pastordmack It is certainly possible that Bathsheba had nothing to do with this whatsoever and her ritual bathing was private from literally everyone except the king and that all women we

@Grump_Old_Man @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii What translation is that? Verse 11 isn’t using the article “the woman.” At any rate, why doesn’t Paul continue using the plural as in v9-10? How does stopping women from teaching deal with the false teaching ...

@Grump_Old_Man @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii What translation is that? Verse 11 isn’t using the article “the woman.” At any rate, why doesn’t Paul continue using the plural as in v9-10? How does stopping

@Grump_Old_Man @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii I suppose you think I’ve never read this passage before? How does this passage exclude women? Does it forbid single men? Men without children (plural)? Even if you read that it’s referring to men (even thou...

@Grump_Old_Man @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii I suppose you think I’ve never read this passage before? How does this passage exclude women? Does it forbid single men? Men without children (plural)? Even

A pastor is never defined in scripture as excluding women. So the ones who sugg

A pastor is never defined in scripture as excluding women. So the ones who suggest that it has to be a man are the ones who are confused and causing problems. https://t.co/6vKZuKKpYi

A pastor is never defined in scripture as excluding women. So the one’s who sug

A pastor is never defined in scripture as excluding women. So the one’s who suggest that it has to be a man are the ones who are confused and causing problems. https://t.co/6vKZuKKpYi

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Mike Winger says it’s about authority as he

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Mike Winger says it’s about authority as he acknowledges that otherwise there is no reason to stop women who are gifted, skilled and capable from serving as pastor

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Who said additional context? I didn’t say w

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Who said additional context? I didn’t say we need more context. The words written were written in a personal letter to Timothy instructing him on how to stop the f

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@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Paul didn’t write that American women were more easily deceived. He wrote that because of the time sequence between the first man and the first woman Adam wasn’t deceived but Eve was. Why? Because Adam witnessed G...

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Paul didn’t write that American women were more easily deceived. He wrote that because of the time sequence between the first man and the first woman Adam wasn’t d

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii The only place you are getting the idea that women are not allowed to have authority is from 1Ti 2:12 and authentein. But that is not the normal work for authority and is not even used for men or anyone. If you ca...

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii The only place you are getting the idea that women are not allowed to have authority is from 1Ti 2:12 and authentein. But that is not the normal work for authority

1Ti 2:12 debate

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Yes, all there in black and white. And now it’s up to you not to mishandle the text and take it out of context, but to make sense of every specific detail in the text and its context. What does stopping all women...

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Yes, all there in black and white. And now it’s up to you not to mishandle the text and take it out of context, but to make sense of every specific detail in the t

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Why did Paul write ‘a woman’ instead of ‘women’ like in vs9-10? Why did Paul use authentein, a verb form that is only found once in the Bible and 8 times in antiquity if he meant normal authority? Paul notes tha...

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Why did Paul write ‘a woman’ instead of ‘women’ like in vs9-10? Why did Paul use authentein, a verb form that is only found once in the Bible and 8 times in antiq

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Being a female and a pastor does NOT violate scripture! And whether affirming churches are run by women or not is immaterial. You are just repeating the stuff you were told. 1Ti 2:12 says nothing about pastors, i...

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Being a female and a pastor does NOT violate scripture! And whether affirming churches are run by women or not is immaterial. You are just repeating the stuff you

1Ti 2:12 general

@BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Like I said, it only matters whether someone rejects what they think the scripture is clearly teaching. And there are not a lot of denominations not having issues these days. History doesn’t trump Biblical truth, and the ...

@BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Like I said, it only matters whether someone rejects what they think the scripture is clearly teaching. And there are not a lot of denominations not having issues these day

@LogicSaysBurn @SpecterAndBride My wife loves her job and manages around her mon

@LogicSaysBurn @SpecterAndBride My wife loves her job and manages around her monthly cycle like most women.

@PhilGarber5 @MikeWingerii I watched Mike’s 43 hours of women in ministry videos

@PhilGarber5 @MikeWingerii I watched Mike’s 43 hours of women in ministry videos. I reached out to interact with him and I regularly seek to interact with those I’m disagreeing with. I don’t see that

@LogicSaysBurn @Dayagent47 Curious then that the word is feminine in v1. For the

@LogicSaysBurn @Dayagent47 Curious then that the word is feminine in v1. For the Greek the masculine form can be used when both male and female is possible. To exclude women you’d have to be explicit

@3GNRTX Sometimes the Greek aner is used to refer to any person male or female, but most of the time it refers to males. As v9-10 refers to women, I see no reason to take v8 as anything other then men (plural). This doesn’t mean that the women weren’...

@3GNRTX Sometimes the Greek aner is used to refer to any person male or female, but most of the time it refers to males. As v9-10 refers to women, I see no reason to take v8 as anything other then men

@3GNRTX Rather, this is in the context of Paul leaving Timothy in Ephesus to stop false teachers, deal with the consequences of the false teaching and setup the church to better manage false teaching. That statement wasn’t Paul instructing Timothy t...

@3GNRTX Rather, this is in the context of Paul leaving Timothy in Ephesus to stop false teachers, deal with the consequences of the false teaching and setup the church to better manage false teaching.

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@StephenStaedtl1 @baste_goblin @DelaKram75 Ah, so now it’s a “because I said so”

@StephenStaedtl1 @baste_goblin @DelaKram75 Ah, so now it’s a “because I said so” thing and has nothing to do with ability or character or skill? Except, there’s nothing forbidding women from serving

@jshurmer @Brian_Sauve So you are balking at “all problems”? Right, so it’s just

@jshurmer @Brian_Sauve So you are balking at “all problems”? Right, so it’s just all the problems caused by women having their own Bible studies and pastoring and teaching. All those problems.

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@Tailfeathers_WA Q: “Why block me for critiquing?” A: Mt 7:6 — Ryan is a pig (unbeliever) so don’t teach him complementarian pearls or he will destroy you. How could anyone disagree with you?? A: Ep 5:11 — Ryan supporting godly women teaching truth...

@Tailfeathers_WA Q: “Why block me for critiquing?” A: Mt 7:6 — Ryan is a pig (unbeliever) so don’t teach him complementarian pearls or he will destroy you. How could anyone disagree with you?? A: Ep

Ep 5:11 Mt 7:6 debate

@CNistEnjoyer Why people think the Bible forbids women from serving as elders, o

@CNistEnjoyer Why people think the Bible forbids women from serving as elders, overseers, deacons, apostles, teachers (including of males)—and why stopping all women from these things solves any probl