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@JohnHar63885981 @DickSaban1 Paul starts out "Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task" not "males that aspire" but "whoever" which is the word τις You cannot take a statement about monogamy and then apply "must be male" as Paul says "...

@JohnHar63885981 @DickSaban1 Paul starts out "Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task" not "males that aspire" but "whoever" which is the word τις You cannot take a statement about mon

@JohnHar63885981 @DickSaban1 The problem is that you assume the office is limited to men. But just as it is not limited to married men with children, it is also not limited to men. If you say husband must mean it's a man, then it must also mean he ...

@JohnHar63885981 @DickSaban1 The problem is that you assume the office is limited to men. But just as it is not limited to married men with children, it is also not limited to men. If you say husban

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 How can you say it is exclusionary to men and not a

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 How can you say it is exclusionary to men and not also excluding unmarried men? The statement you are drawing on to say it is exclusionary to men says husband.

@WillEhrendreich @JohnMoo26668690 @ElizabethOstli1 Think about this for a second…If the man doesn’t have authority over his own body…then what makes you think he has authority over his wife? I’m simply finding an example where the husband is said he...

@WillEhrendreich @JohnMoo26668690 @ElizabethOstli1 Think about this for a second…If the man doesn’t have authority over his own body…then what makes you think he has authority over his wife? I’m simp

@JonnyRoot_ This is what happens when you get creative with the words said. When you insert words into the mouth of Joseph that are not in scripture you risk saying something that gives the wrong view of Jesus. And it seems people are studying The ...

@JonnyRoot_ This is what happens when you get creative with the words said. When you insert words into the mouth of Joseph that are not in scripture you risk saying something that gives the wrong vie

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I posted it because you keep referring to it so we might as well allow people to decide for themselves. Whether its beautiful or accurate exegesis, you will have to decide for yourself. I respond to his exeges...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I posted it because you keep referring to it so we might as well allow people to decide for themselves. Whether its beautiful or accurate exegesis, you will hav

1 Cor 14:34-36 debate

@JohnMoo26668690 @ElizabethOstli1 @WillEhrendreich Nowhere in Genesis 1-3 do we see any of the persons present acting as if they are aware of an authority hierarchy. God didn't tell Adam he had authority over Eve. Eve didn't behave like she underst...

@JohnMoo26668690 @ElizabethOstli1 @WillEhrendreich Nowhere in Genesis 1-3 do we see any of the persons present acting as if they are aware of an authority hierarchy. God didn't tell Adam he had autho

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 There was a dividing wall between ethnic groups (Jew/Gentile), between those of the opposite sex (male/female) and those of different social status (slave/free), but all those walls came down in the church (Gal 3:26-29). ...

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 There was a dividing wall between ethnic groups (Jew/Gentile), between those of the opposite sex (male/female) and those of different social status (slave/free), but all t

Gal 3:26-29 debate

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 Yes, the difference between deacons and elders is that elders must be able to teach. Surely you agree that women are also gifted to teach. So you must think they can teach children and other women? What makes men so un...

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 Yes, the difference between deacons and elders is that elders must be able to teach. Surely you agree that women are also gifted to teach. So you must think they can tea

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 If the requirement "one wife husband" is the same for both elders and deacons and females can be deacons, then on that basis there is no restriction females cannot be elders. Leadership leads to Christ and His Word; it i...

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 If the requirement "one wife husband" is the same for both elders and deacons and females can be deacons, then on that basis there is no restriction females cannot be elde

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 Paul nowhere says that Phoebe is an exception, so we have to consider whether our understanding of what Paul was intending in 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 is correct. Further, it's not just Phoebe we have to consider, but even mo...

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 Paul nowhere says that Phoebe is an exception, so we have to consider whether our understanding of what Paul was intending in 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 is correct. Further, it'

1 Tim 2:11-15 ⎯ Paul writes a personal letter to Timothy to instruct him to stop

1 Tim 2:11-15 ⎯ Paul writes a personal letter to Timothy to instruct him to stop false teaching, two different types of false teachers, and one unnamed deceived one who with her husband are similar to

1 Tim 2:11-15 general

1 Cor 14:34-36 ⎯ Paul refutes Judaizers infiltrating Corinthian church. https://

1 Cor 14:34-36 ⎯ Paul refutes Judaizers infiltrating Corinthian church. https://t.co/0UJxaSEb7U

1 Cor 14:34-36 general

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 general

1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9 ⎯ Character qualifications for leadership; Paul doesn'

1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9 ⎯ Character qualifications for leadership; Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or women https://t.co/SMUaKrLevt

What the Bible says about gender and leadership. Let's bring peace to the divid

What the Bible says about gender and leadership. Let's bring peace to the divide and work in unison with those we disagree with on secondary matters. 🧵

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Here’s my exegesis of 1 Tim 2:11-15 https

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Here’s my exegesis of 1 Tim 2:11-15 https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

1 Tim 2:11-15 general

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Here’s my exegesis of 1 Cor 14:34-36 http

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Here’s my exegesis of 1 Cor 14:34-36 https://t.co/WHlrSQvbxX

1 Cor 14:34-36 general

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I’ve already gone through 1 Tim 3 but her

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I’ve already gone through 1 Tim 3 but here’s a summary. https://t.co/PxqmZAHG7J

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek You are the one saying I am infallible, n

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek You are the one saying I am infallible, not me. Fallacy: appeal to authority https://t.co/Er42JjzD1M

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Fallacy #1: appeal to authority https://t

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Fallacy #1: appeal to authority https://t.co/Er42JjzD1M Fallacy #2: argumentum ad populum https://t.co/U4th8NmokL Fallacy #3: ad hominem https://t.co/mlOGSE5Q6

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Just for those who may not be aware of Jo

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Just for those who may not be aware of John's stance on women preaching, here it is. https://t.co/iVvDskeZ0d

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Is it a sin for a woman to pastor (shepherd) other women? Where is this sin listed in any list of sins? Regardless of the title, if she is able to shepherd her children and she can shepherd other women, why is...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Is it a sin for a woman to pastor (shepherd) other women? Where is this sin listed in any list of sins? Regardless of the title, if she is able to shepherd her

@JohnHar63885981 @trentonpastor I don’t believe it is a contradiction to the int

@JohnHar63885981 @trentonpastor I don’t believe it is a contradiction to the intent of what Paul meant in these passages. https://t.co/EBzpnqIOus

After explaining 1 Tim 3 many times and whether it restricts the role to males o

After explaining 1 Tim 3 many times and whether it restricts the role to males only, I have summarized the points succinctly in the following. https://t.co/EBzpnqIOus

@DickSaban1 The phrase “one wife husband” repeated for deacons and also in Titus 1 and in 1 Tim 5:9 as “one husband wife” is an idiom for faithful to one’s spouse if married. Paul was not married and advocated for singleness so this cannot mean must...

@DickSaban1 The phrase “one wife husband” repeated for deacons and also in Titus 1 and in 1 Tim 5:9 as “one husband wife” is an idiom for faithful to one’s spouse if married. Paul was not married and

1 Tim 5:9 general

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I don’t reject the plain meaning of scripture but interpret it in context. Thanks for your concern but we disagree on a secondary issue related to women and that’s ok. Your reference to 1 Tim 2:11-12 should be...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I don’t reject the plain meaning of scripture but interpret it in context. Thanks for your concern but we disagree on a secondary issue related to women and tha

1 Tim 2:11-12 debate

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Lots of people think people are wrong. Y

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Lots of people think people are wrong. Your insistence that they cannot be wrong is baffling. Is John MacArthur infallible? Are scholars inspired or is that o

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek It is not clear throughout scripture that

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek It is not clear throughout scripture that women cannot be elders and deacons. I trust the scriptures too. You are free to agree with John MacArthur.

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek We don’t disagree on the authority of scr

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek We don’t disagree on the authority of scripture.

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek If you are concerned about me preaching C

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek If you are concerned about me preaching Christ and truth, here’s a sermon I preached at a friends church last summer. https://t.co/ndFJKAjotR

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I suppose I’ll share my motivations for dealing so much with this particular issue on women (what you see as obsession and insistence). First, it is resulting in recent division within the SBC and other churche...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I suppose I’ll share my motivations for dealing so much with this particular issue on women (what you see as obsession and insistence). First, it is resulting i

@JohnMoo26668690 The only reason given for why Eve was deceived was because Adam was created first. By examining Genesis 2, we can understand that God was creating animals in front of Adam so Adam has experience with God that Eve as the last one cre...

@JohnMoo26668690 The only reason given for why Eve was deceived was because Adam was created first. By examining Genesis 2, we can understand that God was creating animals in front of Adam so Adam ha

@GlennDavies @outcatching @danitreweek Hi Glenn, it would appear that Phoebe was already a Deaconness at Cenchreae. Paul appears to be commending her to the church at Rome and describing her as a woman of means who has been a benefactor to many, as ...

@GlennDavies @outcatching @danitreweek Hi Glenn, it would appear that Phoebe was already a Deaconness at Cenchreae. Paul appears to be commending her to the church at Rome and describing her as a wom

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@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Just as the apostle Paul commended the Bereans for not just taking him at his word because he was an apostle but for searching the scriptures to see if what he said was consistent with God’s prior revelation, so...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Just as the apostle Paul commended the Bereans for not just taking him at his word because he was an apostle but for searching the scriptures to see if what he s

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, yes, the person with more experience is always correct. That’s how this works, right? Who was that pesky young 30 something Jesus to correct all those Jewish sages? Or young Timothy to correct the older...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, yes, the person with more experience is always correct. That’s how this works, right? Who was that pesky young 30 something Jesus to correct all those Je

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek “no grounding” “obsessed” “insistant woma

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek “no grounding” “obsessed” “insistant woman’s advocate” “NOT a Christ and truth advocate” “wish to bend scripture” I guess since we are no longer talking about s

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Yes, we are all servants, but not all hold the office of deacon. Same word, whether it’s the office or just service depends on the context. Scripture nowhere contradicts itself. I completely agree. Paul writ...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Yes, we are all servants, but not all hold the office of deacon. Same word, whether it’s the office or just service depends on the context. Scripture nowhere c

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Jesus washed Judas' feet at the last supper...Paul called himself "a bondservant of Christ." We are all servants. The context has to be used to determine whether the person is a leader or not. It is leaders t...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Jesus washed Judas' feet at the last supper...Paul called himself "a bondservant of Christ." We are all servants. The context has to be used to determine wheth

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@GlennDavies @outcatching @danitreweek Hi Glen. Paul wasn't a permanent pastor in a congregation. But he is most certainly an overseer. Overseers often oversee multiple congregations, helping with issues and assisting other pastors. It's the same...

@GlennDavies @outcatching @danitreweek Hi Glen. Paul wasn't a permanent pastor in a congregation. But he is most certainly an overseer. Overseers often oversee multiple congregations, helping with

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek This way of framing our difference is disingenuous. You don’t see that how you interpret this issue is through your patriarchal rubric? You split a hair on one detail in the phrase “one wife husband” and don’t...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek This way of framing our difference is disingenuous. You don’t see that how you interpret this issue is through your patriarchal rubric? You split a hair on one

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Jesus says to eat His flesh and drink His blood and no one starts cannibalizing him. Jesus is a gate, a door, etc. I’m literally interpreting Paul’s idiom. It’s not hidden so you cannot see it, but your patri...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Jesus says to eat His flesh and drink His blood and no one starts cannibalizing him. Jesus is a gate, a door, etc. I’m literally interpreting Paul’s idiom. It

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Maybe you can teach me then. What does “

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Maybe you can teach me then. What does “husband of one wife” mean for deacons since the same Paul calls Phoebe a deaconness in Rom 16:1? Did Paul forget that d

Rom 16:1 question

@BarberraBarker @choyMM @Freedom_1961_ @Conservative_BC @pauldirks Maybe someone can call them and ask why they haven’t updated based on the canceled order from July 14. Maybe they aren’t required to remove restrictions but just aren’t required to i...

@BarberraBarker @choyMM @Freedom_1961_ @Conservative_BC @pauldirks Maybe someone can call them and ask why they haven’t updated based on the canceled order from July 14. Maybe they aren’t required to

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I’m agreeing with scripture but disagreei

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek I’m agreeing with scripture but disagreeing with interpretation. I am not questioning God’s revelation but the men who claim to be the sole determiners of the m

@theojunkiedan You’re looking at a poor schmuck. Right @pauldirks ? 😉

@nsraban Well, you are right that 1 Tim 2:11-15 is referring to a married woman…

@nsraban Well, you are right that 1 Tim 2:11-15 is referring to a married woman…a particular married woman. https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

1 Tim 2:11-15 general

@nsraban Interesting because I believe 1 Cor 14:34-35 is a quote from the letter

@nsraban Interesting because I believe 1 Cor 14:34-35 is a quote from the letter from the Corinthians and Paul is refuting it. Paul is advocating for women to have equal rights to speak.

1 Cor 14:34-35 general

@nsraban Actually, it seems 1 Cor 14:34-35 says all women are to keep silent because their speaking is shameful. Those who are married can ask their husbands at home. It totally goes against Paul’s instructions that all can prophesy and all can lea...

@nsraban Actually, it seems 1 Cor 14:34-35 says all women are to keep silent because their speaking is shameful. Those who are married can ask their husbands at home. It totally goes against Paul’s

1 Cor 14:34-35 general

@msmithpg @Freedom_1961_ @Conservative_BC @pauldirks Yes, you are quite right, I

@msmithpg @Freedom_1961_ @Conservative_BC @pauldirks Yes, you are quite right, I’m afraid. Sigh…