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Scripture Commentary article 2006-03-13

Wasnt The Garden Created Before Adam Was Created

> Q: Doesn’t Genesis 2:8 simply say that God had already planted a garden and then put man into it after he was formed. Don’t the following verses then go on to describe what the garden was composed of, not a sequential account of the garden being formed after the man

Genesis 2:19 Genesis 2:8 Ruth 90 Genesis & Creation
Scripture Commentary tweet 2026-03-21

@fab1usger @Crystalisives @TabeStorm @MikeWingerii You said Genesis, not the garden of Eden. And yes, no animals were being killed before the fall, so ruling them didn't mean killing them in the original creation. What in your view does it mean to r...

@fab1usger @Crystalisives @TabeStorm @MikeWingerii You said Genesis, not the garden of Eden. And yes, no animals were being killed before the fall, so ruling them didn't mean killing them in the origi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-08-16

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Well all we see from 2:13-14 is Paul is tying the time sequence order of creation to why one was deceived and the other wasn't. Going back to Gen 2, we can see how God creates Adam, puts him in the gard...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Well all we see from 2:13-14 is Paul is tying the time sequence order of creation to why one was deceived and the other wasn't. Going back to Gen 2, we

from 2:13-14 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-08-01

@imnotderrek @MikeWingerii Paul is connecting the time sequence order of creation with why one is deceived and the other is not. Going back and carefully reading Gen 2 we can see that God creates Adam, places him in the garden, causes trees to grow i...

@imnotderrek @MikeWingerii Paul is connecting the time sequence order of creation with why one is deceived and the other is not. Going back and carefully reading Gen 2 we can see that God creates Adam

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-08

@OSRDwarf2 @DrCalumMiller Eve allowed the serpent to whisper? Wasn't it Adam who was told to guard the garden? He was right there beside her the whole time. So then it was Adam who allowed the serpent to speak. But don't forget that Paul shows even ...

@OSRDwarf2 @DrCalumMiller Eve allowed the serpent to whisper? Wasn't it Adam who was told to guard the garden? He was right there beside her the whole time. So then it was Adam who allowed the serpent

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-06

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 But Paul doesn’t say it was in her nature but relates to the time sequence of creation. Adam was created, placed in the garden, trees were created before his very eyes with full fruit, then animals from the dust (likely the ...

@Paula_333 @BronWen727104 But Paul doesn’t say it was in her nature but relates to the time sequence of creation. Adam was created, placed in the garden, trees were created before his very eyes with f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-06

@KlarsKl I would say with knowledge comes responsibility. They were given equal authority but not equal knowledge given the time sequence order of creation. Adam was told to guard the garden and you are not told this without knowing what you are guar...

@KlarsKl I would say with knowledge comes responsibility. They were given equal authority but not equal knowledge given the time sequence order of creation. Adam was told to guard the garden and you a

1Ti 2:13-14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-06

@Paula_333 The facts are that Paul's description links the time sequence order of creation with deception. So something about the order and how he prepared Adam to guard the garden ensured he wouldn't be deceived, whereas Eve being the last thing cre...

@Paula_333 The facts are that Paul's description links the time sequence order of creation with deception. So something about the order and how he prepared Adam to guard the garden ensured he wouldn't

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-05

Complementarians say God gave Adam authority over Eve—and by extension, husbands over wives. But Adam was the one who failed (Ro 5:12). He wasn’t deceived, yet didn’t guard the garden or his own flesh, Eve. If failed shepherds are removed, why woul...

Complementarians say God gave Adam authority over Eve—and by extension, husbands over wives. But Adam was the one who failed (Ro 5:12). He wasn’t deceived, yet didn’t guard the garden or his own fles

Ro 5:12 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-18

@Reneechop Paul connects the time sequence order of creation with Eve’s deception. What we know from a careful reading of Gen 2 is that god creates Adam (2:7), then plants a garden and puts Adam in it (2:8). Then God causes the trees to supernatural...

@Reneechop Paul connects the time sequence order of creation with Eve’s deception. What we know from a careful reading of Gen 2 is that god creates Adam (2:7), then plants a garden and puts Adam in i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-16

@ladies4pd The best assessment I have on this is by taking what Paul wrote in 1Ti 2:13-14 and apply this to a carefule review of the wording in Gen 2. In that case, we see animals were created, Adam was created, a garden was made to grow before Adam...

@ladies4pd The best assessment I have on this is by taking what Paul wrote in 1Ti 2:13-14 and apply this to a carefule review of the wording in Gen 2. In that case, we see animals were created, Adam

1Ti 2:13-14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-19

@StandAndKnox Paul links the time sequence order of creation with deception. So we must ask what it was about the time sequence of creation with Adam created, then animals created after Adam as well as the garden trees in Eden and Eve being created v...

@StandAndKnox Paul links the time sequence order of creation with deception. So we must ask what it was about the time sequence of creation with Adam created, then animals created after Adam as well a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-12

@VerilyJonah @rightresponsem 1Ti 2:13-14 tells us that Adam was not deceived and links it to the fact that he was created first in time sequence. So then when you revisit Genesis 2, you can see what is going on—Adam is watching animals being created ...

@VerilyJonah @rightresponsem 1Ti 2:13-14 tells us that Adam was not deceived and links it to the fact that he was created first in time sequence. So then when you revisit Genesis 2, you can see what i

1Ti 2:13-14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-01-30

@EManFleming Yes, let’s look at God’s order in the garden. Where is the man comm

@EManFleming Yes, let’s look at God’s order in the garden. Where is the man commanded to rule his wife? https://t.co/etUifOhWDY

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-10

@PatrickHen1776 @AJMxya @harmonizedgrace He didn’t have to say why—we have the text of Gen 1-3 and can review it to understand it. Paul simply connects time sequence in the creation order to deception. We see in Ge 2 that God creates a garden (incl....

@PatrickHen1776 @AJMxya @harmonizedgrace He didn’t have to say why—we have the text of Gen 1-3 and can review it to understand it. Paul simply connects time sequence in the creation order to deception

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-08

@ymmotrojam @Tailfeathers_WA @dalepartridge On the other hand, with Song of Solomon 7:10, you have the idea of desire between the husband and wife drawing them together. This fits well as we see in Ge 3 that Adam alone is kicked out of the garden, bu...

@ymmotrojam @Tailfeathers_WA @dalepartridge On the other hand, with Song of Solomon 7:10, you have the idea of desire between the husband and wife drawing them together. This fits well as we see in Ge

So 7:10 Solomon 7:10 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-18

@dantheman278 @MikeWingerii Why do you think I don't believe it? Paul explains that it was the time sequence of creation that was the reason why Adam was not deceived but Eve was. But Adam sinned by rebelling against what he did know and it was Adam ...

@dantheman278 @MikeWingerii Why do you think I don't believe it? Paul explains that it was the time sequence of creation that was the reason why Adam was not deceived but Eve was. But Adam sinned by r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-18

@dantheman278 @MikeWingerii This is not about the fact that both men and women c

@dantheman278 @MikeWingerii This is not about the fact that both men and women can be wrong, but what specifically happened in the garden of Eden so that we can understand the scriptures that referenc

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-22

@SKokenos As for why Adam would need to protect Eve, Genesis 2:15 states that God placed Adam in the garden to "cultivate and keep" it. The Hebrew word for "keep" (שָׁמַר, *shamar*) also means "guard," implying that Adam had a protective role. While ...

@SKokenos As for why Adam would need to protect Eve, Genesis 2:15 states that God placed Adam in the garden to "cultivate and keep" it. The Hebrew word for "keep" (שָׁמַר, *shamar*) also means "guard,

Genesis 2:15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-19

@MelindaSeed Great question! Adam was given the responsibility to guard the garden. In Genesis 2:15, Adam is commanded to “cultivate and keep” the garden. The Hebrew word for “keep” (שָׁמַר, shamar) can mean “guard” or “protect.” This implies a respo...

@MelindaSeed Great question! Adam was given the responsibility to guard the garden. In Genesis 2:15, Adam is commanded to “cultivate and keep” the garden. The Hebrew word for “keep” (שָׁמַר, shamar) c

Genesis 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-18

@Alex7Shiro That’s true. Note: only Adam was booted out of the garden. How do c

@Alex7Shiro That’s true. Note: only Adam was booted out of the garden. How do complementarians explain that? Read Ge 3:22-24.

Ge 3:22-24 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-19

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul sees a situation that is not unlike that of the garden of Eden⎯the wife is deceived and attempting to lead Adam into the same sin; the husband (Adam) is not deceived but silent, not correcting or protecting her give...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul sees a situation that is not unlike that of the garden of Eden⎯the wife is deceived and attempting to lead Adam into the same sin; the husband (Adam) is not deceived

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-19

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii We also cannot constrain Paul’s meaning because we found a couple of texts that used it differently. Ultimately how Paul is using the word is dependent on the context, and Paul uses Adam and Eve and the deception in the ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii We also cannot constrain Paul’s meaning because we found a couple of texts that used it differently. Ultimately how Paul is using the word is dependent on the context, an

commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-06

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Paul didn’t write that American women were more easily deceived. He wrote that because of the time sequence between the first man and the first woman Adam wasn’t deceived but Eve was. Why? Because Adam witnessed G...

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Paul didn’t write that American women were more easily deceived. He wrote that because of the time sequence between the first man and the first woman Adam wasn’t d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX Paul only refers to the time sequence of creation in relation to deception. Adam was created first and saw God creating some animals and the garden plants and trees so he couldn’t be deceived to think that the fruit of a tree made from the sa...

@3GNRTX Paul only refers to the time sequence of creation in relation to deception. Adam was created first and saw God creating some animals and the garden plants and trees so he couldn’t be deceived

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-02

@LoammiCB @SpecterAndBride @tigereyes1972 The fact that she shames her head assumes she has one, meaning this is referring to married women only. But this shaming that Paul refers to is not the same kind of spiritual shame from the garden, but someth...

@LoammiCB @SpecterAndBride @tigereyes1972 The fact that she shames her head assumes she has one, meaning this is referring to married women only. But this shaming that Paul refers to is not the same k

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-26

@GetoD6812 @pastherandie 1Ti 2:12 is not referring to pastors. It is dealing with a specific wife who is outside of orthodoxy and teaching false doctrine and her husband (likely an elder) who is not deceived is silent and saying nothing. This mimics ...

@GetoD6812 @pastherandie 1Ti 2:12 is not referring to pastors. It is dealing with a specific wife who is outside of orthodoxy and teaching false doctrine and her husband (likely an elder) who is not d

1Ti 2:12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-12

@StanfieldBrent1 @ronhenzel Quite the silly question. Of course scripture is tru

@StanfieldBrent1 @ronhenzel Quite the silly question. Of course scripture is true, and yes this is referring to Jesus, the one whom revealed Himself to man in the form of a man walking in the garden a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@fuckolivegarden @CoreyJMahler So I have to agree with things I don’t find subst

@fuckolivegarden @CoreyJMahler So I have to agree with things I don’t find substantiated in scripture? I think not. But I am certainly open to the best challenges out there and was looking…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@abidebyfaith @deadtosin610 @KimberleeJayneW @NotTheBaptizer Genesis 2:7–9 (NASB 2020) 1. God forms man: "Then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living person....

@abidebyfaith @deadtosin610 @KimberleeJayneW @NotTheBaptizer Genesis 2:7–9 (NASB 2020) 1. God forms man: "Then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the b

Genesis 2:7 Gen 2:7 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@baste_goblin That’s correct. God does not create gender hierarchy of authority

@baste_goblin That’s correct. God does not create gender hierarchy of authority in the garden.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@DelaKram75 @LipchakH I don’t believe it was because Eve was deceived first, but Eve was deceived because she was created last (according to 1 Tim 2:13-14). Reading Genesis 2 closely, we see that Adam saw God create animals, garden plants and trees ...

@DelaKram75 @LipchakH I don’t believe it was because Eve was deceived first, but Eve was deceived because she was created last (according to 1 Tim 2:13-14). Reading Genesis 2 closely, we see that Ada

1 Tim 2:13-14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-13

@JeremyMBauman @MarkGrote @kelcy_lowry @hamillaaron @MikeWingerii Unfortunately he didn’t steelman the view that there was a particular deceived woman in Ephesus teaching false doctrine whose husband (likely an elder or respected person) was being si...

@JeremyMBauman @MarkGrote @kelcy_lowry @hamillaaron @MikeWingerii Unfortunately he didn’t steelman the view that there was a particular deceived woman in Ephesus teaching false doctrine whose husband

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@IIIIIJOSHIIIII @smashbaals That response is getting tired. “The woman” is NOT Eve, but Eve is a prototype in that she was deceived while Adam was not. The situation in Ephesus mirrors that in the garden where a wife who is deceived and has left th...

@IIIIIJOSHIIIII @smashbaals That response is getting tired. “The woman” is NOT Eve, but Eve is a prototype in that she was deceived while Adam was not. The situation in Ephesus mirrors that in the g

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii The reason I don't prefer "domineer" or "master" is because of how Paul uses the example of Adam and Eve and I don't think this was what was going on in the garden of Eden. I think he's tying the f...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii The reason I don't prefer "domineer" or "master" is because of how Paul uses the example of Adam and Eve and I don't think this was what was going o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-30

RT @ryanschatz: @smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the gro

RT @ryanschatz: @smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the ground and taking care of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:15,…

Genesis 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-30

@smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the ground and taking care of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:15, Eve is created as a "helper" for Adam. The term "helper" is often interpreted to mean that Eve shared in Adam's responsibilitie...

@smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the ground and taking care of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:15, Eve is created as a "helper" for Adam. The term "helper" is often interpreted

Genesis 2:15 Genesis 1:28 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-20

@pearlythingz If you want to know what’s up with Adam and Eve in the garden, sta

@pearlythingz If you want to know what’s up with Adam and Eve in the garden, start with Paul. https://t.co/UnZDiv7U35

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-02

@aflawedmanofGod @M_Jensen23 @ortrails @goteamcarr Genesis 2 is pretty clear that the man was made before the woman with a sufficient span of time to observe God in the act of creating both in relation to the plants and garden as well as likely the f...

@aflawedmanofGod @M_Jensen23 @ortrails @goteamcarr Genesis 2 is pretty clear that the man was made before the woman with a sufficient span of time to observe God in the act of creating both in relatio

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-26

@Holistic_Voyeur @RoxyWright0 @Bellisima_2004 It’s not different. That’s a misu

@Holistic_Voyeur @RoxyWright0 @Bellisima_2004 It’s not different. That’s a misunderstanding. Gen 2 is a zoomed in view of day 6 of the creation of man, the garden and female animals, and woman. Gen

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren The reason why many focus on 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1, Gen 2-3, etc is because they seem to speak to the issue of women in leadership. I believe however, that if ...

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren The reason why many focus on 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1, Gen 2-3, etc is because they seem to speak to the issue of

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren 1/ I’m not ordained. 2/ I’ve atte

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren 1/ I’m not ordained. 2/ I’ve attended Baptist, Calvary Chapel, two Pentecostal, non-denom, Evangelical free. 3/ No one at my church reviewed my presenta

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Also, I love that you want to talk

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Also, I love that you want to talk Bible. I present in such a way that you should be able to fact check me and stick with the text as much as possible.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Or feel free to ask questions. Or

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Or feel free to ask questions. Or you can send me your email and I’ll send you a brief summary I sent to a pastor friend on 1 Tim 2.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren This is difficult to do over twitter. I can, but I don’t have the paid account. Unless you want to ask a specific question? Here is a series I taught at my church. In session #2 on 1 Tim, I also discu...

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren This is difficult to do over twitter. I can, but I don’t have the paid account. Unless you want to ask a specific question? Here is a series I taught a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-11

@OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Warren is not giving exegesis on the difficult passages. I wish he was better at that. But that doesn’t mean he’s wrong. How is he mangling God’s inerrant word exactly? Is it possible…I mean even if only 1% chance tha...

@OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Warren is not giving exegesis on the difficult passages. I wish he was better at that. But that doesn’t mean he’s wrong. How is he mangling God’s inerrant word exactly?

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Scripture Commentary debate point

In our continuing discussions on the fall of man we have dealt with the issue of Adam as guardian of the garden and the charge against Eve that she added to God’s word. In this post I will deal with the position that Eve did not sin by adding to God’s word but she was merely mistaken regarding what

[general] From: Was Eve Mistaken

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Theology verse entry

Genesis 1:26-28

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 1:26-28 creation,dominion,co-equal,image of God,male and female,egalitarian,gender roles,imago dei,equality
Theology verse entry

Genesis 2:15-20

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 2:15-20 garden,guard,ezer,helper,creation order,egalitarian,woman,ezer kenegdo,naming animals,no counterpart,strength
Theology verse entry

Romans 5:12-19

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Romans 5:12-19 original sin,Adam,last Adam,representative,federal headship,sin through one man,egalitarian
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