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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-06

@PatrickGut74996 @MikeWingerii Hmm… The first-person singular pronoun “ἐγώ” (egō) means “I” and does not have gender. The first-person plural pronoun “ἡμεῖς” (hēmeis) means “we” and also does not have gender. Greek verbs in the first person singul...

@PatrickGut74996 @MikeWingerii Hmm… The first-person singular pronoun “ἐγώ” (egō) means “I” and does not have gender. The first-person plural pronoun “ἡμεῖς” (hēmeis) means “we” and also does not ha

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-06

@SindlandOz34748 @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman That Paul wasn’t si

@SindlandOz34748 @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman That Paul wasn’t silencing half the body as exemplified by statements made in the very same chapter is “word salad”? 🧐

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-06

@danitreweek I get that same sense from Greear—that stating specifically those t

@danitreweek I get that same sense from Greear—that stating specifically those three words was a gospel issue. Since I didn’t want to not include all who were marginalized, then I became part of the m

@PatrickGut74996 @MikeWingerii Hmm… The first-person singular pronoun “ἐγώ” (egō) means “I” and does not have gender. The first-person plural pronoun “ἡμεῖς” (hēmeis) means “we” and also does not have gender. Greek verbs in the first person singul...

@SindlandOz34748 @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman That Paul wasn’t si

@danitreweek I get that same sense from Greear—that stating specifically those t

@Breasinthewoods @MikeWingerii The language of Hebrews is more refined than in P

@XianPatriot @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Again, you may be flippant about using the plural and the singular, but Paul seems to be intentional in the flow of this text, starting from all people, men, women, a woman, a man, Adam, Eve, t...

@SindlandOz34748 @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Paul did not silenc

@JohnMoo26668690 @smashbaals @danielsilliman Refusing someone because of their ethnic origin, their socioeconomic status or whether they are male or female should have no place in the church. It should be based on gifting, character, truth, etc. You...

@humanvideogamer @WagnerJere47288 @RenOfMen The word kephale (translated as head

@DrGJackBrown Your line of reasoning is amusing. Guessing what’s going on in som

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I was told that if I joined this specific church that I would have to stop leading the two Bible studies that I have going as if I was a member of their church, I wouldn't be allowed to lead since I wasn't a Calvinist an...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The jumping around from plural to singular and back again is very unclear if Paul means women generically. To mix deception with generic people and salvation for those generic deceived people seems nonsensical. Paul is w...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii And many other effects of sin that were not mentio

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Let me rephrase. I don't rule my wife. I don't fa

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Actually, I know something about that too. When I had two Mormon Bishops in my home, it was clear that God caused the fall so that they could become gods. So it was God's intention that man sinned. There is no overlap w...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii What is Paul's point using Eve as an archetype of

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul says that the saints will judge the world and angels (1Co 6:2-3) and Jesus will seat believers on His throne with Him (Re 2:26-27; 3:21). Why would that be a sin in the church for women if Paul even uses it to justi...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii There are no verses of lists of sin that confirms

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii It’s not even an imperative. It was written to Timothy in a letter concerning how he should act to deal with false teaching. If women teaching truth to men is a sin or having authority over men is a sin that condemns wom...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul is protecting this deceived woman by not nami

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Where is a woman teaching truth to men ever listed

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Yes, that's what I meant. And while I may take a dissenting opinion from 'the vast majority' it is not without considering their reasons. Why are you framing my proposal as "certainties"? I am giving you my view and my ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii If Paul is using Eve prototypically, then the same description of Eve's deception can apply to this specific wife teaching heresy in Ephesus. This solves the awkwardness of using 'the woman' to referred to Eve who is alr...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You said I have to break the immediate context. But this is not the case if Paul is using Eve prototypically. What Paul writes, "but the woman..." sounds like it's referring to Eve, yet he already mentioned her name and ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You are correct that 'a woman' and 'Eve' are both anarthrous. I don't agree that the anaphoric use makes best sense referring back to Eve. Paul is using Adam and Eve prototypically which is why 'the woman' looks like Eve...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I submitted to him by not forcing myself into leadership, but he doesn’t have the right to forbid what Jesus did not forbid, so he is in the wrong. If I am living in unrepentant sin and refuse to listen “even to the chu...

@curtisschlepp @JollyStine Except that qualifications should apply individually as one spouse may not have a teaching gift or the fortitude to correct false teaching. And also, Paul was single (and likely Timothy) and advocated for singleness so one...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul sees a situation that is not unlike that of the garden of Eden⎯the wife is deceived and attempting to lead Adam into the same sin; the husband (Adam) is not deceived but silent, not correcting or protecting her give...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii We also cannot constrain Paul’s meaning because we found a couple of texts that used it differently. Ultimately how Paul is using the word is dependent on the context, and Paul uses Adam and Eve and the deception in the ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Ultimately our understanding of the Biblical text is not driven by how a couple of unrelated texts used the word but Paul’s context and meaning. Since Paul quotes from Wis Sol it is a more relevant text when assessing th...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The idea that Paul’s use of an older word would be analogous to using King James-era English in modern speech to leverage its rich vocabulary is quite apt. It’s not about the typical audience but the precision and impact...

@StevenMKestner @carol66944 @JoelWBerry Paul is advocating for singleness as he himself is in 1Co 7:7-8,32-34,38 and suggesting it is better. Yet translations all have 1Ti 3:2 as saying husband or “faithful to his wife.” The text is clear—it is refe...

@StevenMKestner @carol66944 @JoelWBerry Does husband apply to a single men like

Did @smashbaals just say he is sick and tired of people using the Bible to defen

@Olrak67 @The_njp @Protestia Verse 15 is the culmination of Paul’s thoughts in t

@minkeymagik @samuel_costner @Reformed_Zoomer @WokePreacherTV First, it says "sh

@PastorMark Well, not that getting married is bad. It’s good. But then Paul advocated for singleness. "I wish that all were as I myself am." (1Co 7:7) "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am." (1Co 7...

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT So you don’t think it’s reasonable that Paul is using Eve

@avyargo @neecygrace @MikeWingerii Who wrote Ruth, Esther and Hebrews? It's ok.

@MikeWingerii Lewis rightly pointed out that pride could be the ‘great sin.’ This applies as much to those inside the church as outside. It’s crucial church leaders ensure they lead with humility and not fall into the trap of pride, thinking they are...

@ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii How do you know why I am egalitarian? I’m not going

@JoeAdrian256 @ingersoll_bob @MikeWingerii @magnabosco In this case if we circle back to what you were saying about Terran William’s articles, this is not just about “interesting” but responding to those who are forbidding godly women from teaching t...

@Wbtesq @MikeWingerii No, I’m not joking. And no, not all Christian men think that women should not be allowed to teach or pastor if they have the gifting and character qualifications. And definitely not all Christians think it is a sin for a female ...

@TarienCole @Calvinator8000 @avyargo @MikeWingerii You have to first understand Paul’s comments in the context of specific instructions to Timothy about how he (second person singular) ought to act (1Ti 3:14-15). If Paul meant to generalize, he would...

@JoeAdrian256 @ingersoll_bob @MikeWingerii @magnabosco First, the fact that you are not convinced is totally fine! Your comment about “teachers of the law” and splitting hairs seems odd. The law is specific about what God requires so you are not sin...

@immrbloo @MikeWingerii That a godly woman teaching truth to men is a sin??

@avyargo @bonhoefferchild @MikeWingerii An entire doctrine built on a single tex

@avyargo @MikeWingerii Disobeying God’s clear commands is sin. Yet which command

@RushiXmakima @Unashamed_Chuck I know this is a popular opinion, but I’m not convinced of it (yet). I see Paul using specific wording to point out a specific wife and husband in the church at Ephesus and relating what is happening back to the fall in...

@mikeproverbs10 @patriot49029471 @smashbaals Women shaved their heads in rebellion? Paul is asking women to cover their heads because of their former rebellion? Wow. I thought I heard it all. There was no such practice of covering in the churches b...

@JoanBandy @mikeproverbs10 @patriot49029471 @smashbaals Wasn’t the elaborate hair adornment a way to convey status and perhaps how some of the women were trying to get others to listen to them instead of the false teachers? Why do you assume it’s abo...

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