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@SMAMnstr39246 @FordhamOrthodox But why would Paul keep all the women silent whe

@SMAMnstr39246 @FordhamOrthodox But why would Paul keep all the women silent when in the rest of the chapter he talks about everyone using their gifts for the benefit of all? The key to this passage

1 Cor 7:1 debate

@bjoropeza1 Wouldn't it be a problem if anyone (male or female) was interrupting? What about unmarried women that don't have a husband to teach them? Didn't Paul say that "all could learn"? Why would he stop women? The key is 1 Cor 7:1 "Now for t...

@bjoropeza1 Wouldn't it be a problem if anyone (male or female) was interrupting? What about unmarried women that don't have a husband to teach them? Didn't Paul say that "all could learn"? Why wou

1 Cor 7:1 question

@chadlyrose @Snuggernaut1 @sovereignbrah Not sure where you got that from. “though I myself have reasons for such confidence. If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the ...

@chadlyrose @Snuggernaut1 @sovereignbrah Not sure where you got that from. “though I myself have reasons for such confidence. If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I

in 2:15 1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary

@HammadAcc2 @AmyMek @jihadwatchRS Some of these are quite difficult passages. Here's an explanation for 1 Tim 2:11-15 that makes sense of this passage, the grammar, the nature of the letter and its context (stopping false teaching), the back referen...

@HammadAcc2 @AmyMek @jihadwatchRS Some of these are quite difficult passages. Here's an explanation for 1 Tim 2:11-15 that makes sense of this passage, the grammar, the nature of the letter and its c

@ben_809 @pastorpilgrim @AliciaRushton7 No, you are misunderstanding this passag

@ben_809 @pastorpilgrim @AliciaRushton7 No, you are misunderstanding this passage. https://t.co/LPisirHz38

@Shshshahawn @pearlythingz You need to read this passage in context and make sen

@Shshshahawn @pearlythingz You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar, the personal details Paul shares with Timothy, the reference to Adam and Eve and "she (singular) will

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. And the reference to Adam and Eve is not about hiera...

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. An

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation from the Corinthian letter. https://t.co/0UJxaSEb7U

@coramdeo1 @mbird12 @ivpacademic I doubt this passage has anything to do with Artemis. Well, at least Paul doesn't explain what the false teaching is. But he also doesn't tell Timothy to stop women from teaching true doctrine. The grammar is also ...

@coramdeo1 @mbird12 @ivpacademic I doubt this passage has anything to do with Artemis. Well, at least Paul doesn't explain what the false teaching is. But he also doesn't tell Timothy to stop women

@TheBerean777 @EllaFlash @Maranatha7774 1 Tim 2:11-15 has been taken out of context. I don't blame people, but if you carefully consider the grammar, the purpose of this personal letter to Timothy and the reference to Genesis 1-2, it will make much ...

@TheBerean777 @EllaFlash @Maranatha7774 1 Tim 2:11-15 has been taken out of context. I don't blame people, but if you carefully consider the grammar, the purpose of this personal letter to Timothy an

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate

@SamanthaAsia2 This passage has been taken out of context. Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching the truth. And the grammar is very specific for reasons provided in Chapter 1. And verse 15 sa...

@SamanthaAsia2 This passage has been taken out of context. Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching the truth. And the grammar is very specific f

@KJBTruth Except you are completely misinterpreting it. Remember, this was a pe

@KJBTruth Except you are completely misinterpreting it. Remember, this was a personal letter to Timothy from Paul who asked him to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching true doctrine.

@MiaGoss44 @MariaPIreland @_foryeshua Or perhaps you should learn to rightly div

@MiaGoss44 @MariaPIreland @_foryeshua Or perhaps you should learn to rightly divide scripture. I don't fault you though as this is a tricky passage and the English translations make it trickier. http

@TheBerean777 What if you are taking these passages out of context? Most seem t

@TheBerean777 What if you are taking these passages out of context? Most seem to forget this was a personal letter to Timothy to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching true doctrine. ht

@ChavuraStephen Hmm. I think invoking Artemis is stretch. This discussion does

@ChavuraStephen Hmm. I think invoking Artemis is stretch. This discussion does not involve the context of this personal letter to Timothy to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching true

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being mis

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being misunderstood. The grammar is very specific and the context of the personal letter to Timothy and what Paul says in the fi

@harmonizedgrace So instead of going a "women-only" Bible studies, you are going

@harmonizedgrace So instead of going a "women-only" Bible studies, you are going to Bible studies with both men and women?

@WWUTTcom Maybe you need to revisit 1 Tim 2:11-15. https://t.co/H6ddwD2hLg

1 Tim 2:11-15 general

@kevinmyoung Wait…that’s the explicit instruction in Matt 18 for church discipli

@kevinmyoung Wait…that’s the explicit instruction in Matt 18 for church discipline. So it would seem that it depends on whether the person is in unrepentant sin or not.

@ronhenzel @IsKing333 So let me get this straight: Calvinism teaches that once you are regenerated, you cannot be lost. However, you cannot have “infallible assurance” of that salvation? Are they saying that Calvinists cannot detect true regenerati...

@ronhenzel @IsKing333 So let me get this straight: Calvinism teaches that once you are regenerated, you cannot be lost. However, you cannot have “infallible assurance” of that salvation? Are they sa

@ronhenzel Except that the Bible doesn’t say it’s permanent. It is always conditioned on you remaining in him and continuing in the faith. 1 Cor 9:27 “No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I my...

@ronhenzel Except that the Bible doesn’t say it’s permanent. It is always conditioned on you remaining in him and continuing in the faith. 1 Cor 9:27 “No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my s

1 Cor 9:27 general

@ronhenzel Also by Augustine: ”I should not believe the gospel unless I were mov

@ronhenzel Also by Augustine: ”I should not believe the gospel unless I were moved to do so by the authority of the Catholic Church”.

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not prevent qualified women from leadership. In fact, ...

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not p

@William_E_Wolfe I’m egalitarian. I don’t do use emotive language and feelings.

@William_E_Wolfe I’m egalitarian. I don’t do use emotive language and feelings. Just the cold hard facts.

@danieleleven32 A lot of people take Lewis as an authority. We have to get back

@danieleleven32 A lot of people take Lewis as an authority. We have to get back to the Bible rightly divided as the authority.

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14:29 debate

@BogdanOancea77 According to 1 Cor 14:34-35, a woman should not speak in the assembly. Paul permitted women prophesying, but some in the Corinthian church were trying to put a stop to that. “Have two or three prophets speak, and have the others pas...

@BogdanOancea77 According to 1 Cor 14:34-35, a woman should not speak in the assembly. Paul permitted women prophesying, but some in the Corinthian church were trying to put a stop to that. “Have tw

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do these men need to be taught by women?" but "why do ...

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do t

@BogdanOancea77 Upon what basis can you claim that God doesn't call women to preach and teach for the benefit of all? Why would God gift a women for the benefit of only half of the body? To me, this seems like a limitation on the men. Men are not ...

@BogdanOancea77 Upon what basis can you claim that God doesn't call women to preach and teach for the benefit of all? Why would God gift a women for the benefit of only half of the body? To me, this

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Paul is the one changing the gramm

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Paul is the one changing the grammar. I think your accusation is not against me but against the apostle Paul. I'm just trying to understand what he mean

@BogdanOancea77 I am not performing mental gymnastics nor am I ignoring anything! I'm taking the text as fully inspired in its original context. That is in no way rebelling against the Bible and God! This is the sort of attitude that needs to stop...

@BogdanOancea77 I am not performing mental gymnastics nor am I ignoring anything! I'm taking the text as fully inspired in its original context. That is in no way rebelling against the Bible and God

@BogdanOancea77 I'm not starting from a pre-conceived idea of egalitarianism. I was raised with the idea that women were not allowed to preach and that the leadership role was male only. The CBE article you linked makes the following comment: "In J...

@BogdanOancea77 I'm not starting from a pre-conceived idea of egalitarianism. I was raised with the idea that women were not allowed to preach and that the leadership role was male only. The CBE art

@BogdanOancea77 Are you suggesting that the Council of Carthage is inspired? Th

@BogdanOancea77 Are you suggesting that the Council of Carthage is inspired? This is more than 3 centuries after the start of the church and the churches were already being influenced in the wrong di

@BogdanOancea77 Wait…so women can only read from the Bible if men are not present? What are men so scared of? So if a man walks into such a group so they stop and wait for him to leave? How can women be under a male overseer if a man would then ne...

@BogdanOancea77 Wait…so women can only read from the Bible if men are not present? What are men so scared of? So if a man walks into such a group so they stop and wait for him to leave? How can wom

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues & prophesying was allowed for everybody": a. About ...

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues &

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manuscripts, and verses 34-35 are contradicting what P...

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manu

@BogdanOancea77 We see the answer from Jesus in Mark 7:1-13. I would think that anything that prevents people from doing what God said. In this case, preventing women from speaking and preventing women from learning prevented them from obeying what...

@BogdanOancea77 We see the answer from Jesus in Mark 7:1-13. I would think that anything that prevents people from doing what God said. In this case, preventing women from speaking and preventing wo

Mark 7:1-13 general

@BogdanOancea77 Yes! You are making my point!! It comes from the Talmud not fr

@BogdanOancea77 Yes! You are making my point!! It comes from the Talmud not from scripture!

@BogdanOancea77 Yes. Yes I am. If you don't believe me, listen to what John MacArthur says about this term in his message titled "Does the Bible Permit a Woman to Preach?" starting at around 2m 46s. He explains it means "disgraceful or shameful......

@BogdanOancea77 Yes. Yes I am. If you don't believe me, listen to what John MacArthur says about this term in his message titled "Does the Bible Permit a Woman to Preach?" starting at around 2m 46s.

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift which might be included in "word of instruction" fro...

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift wh

1Cor14:6 commentary

@BogdanOancea77 The point is that all women must be silent in the church. It doesn't say "men, women and children" because it applies only to all women. The reason that makes sense of all the evidence, as I suggest in later slides, is that a woman'...

@BogdanOancea77 The point is that all women must be silent in the church. It doesn't say "men, women and children" because it applies only to all women. The reason that makes sense of all the eviden

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 that says that an elder must ...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unusual for any elder or deacon. Most are not mentio...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unu

@MikeWingerii I plan to respond to Mike’s comments on the “Refutation View” which I hold and Mike’s preferred view which is the view that bars women from judging prophecy in the church. However, here is my explanation of the Refutation View which ta...

@MikeWingerii I plan to respond to Mike’s comments on the “Refutation View” which I hold and Mike’s preferred view which is the view that bars women from judging prophecy in the church. However, here

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate

@bethallisonbarr Hi Beth. Just reading your book now but you might be intereste

@bethallisonbarr Hi Beth. Just reading your book now but you might be interested in the take I pinned on my profile for 1 Tim 2:11-15 and this one on 1 Cor 14:34-35. Hoping to learn from each other.

@GlennDavies @danitreweek I'll get to 1 Tim 3 and Titus after I do 1 Cor 11:1-16

@GlennDavies @danitreweek I'll get to 1 Tim 3 and Titus after I do 1 Cor 11:1-16. By apostle, I'm not referring to the original 12 and you are absolutely correct, those were only men.

1 Cor 11:1-16 general

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, it is certainly a good question. The qualifications for deacon are the same as elder aside for "must be able to teach" and we know Phoebe is a deacon(ness). Do we know the names of the elders in Ephesus? No, they ar...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, it is certainly a good question. The qualifications for deacon are the same as elder aside for "must be able to teach" and we know Phoebe is a deacon(ness). Do we kno

@GlennDavies @danitreweek I guess I was just responding to Dani's Egalitarian pl

@GlennDavies @danitreweek I guess I was just responding to Dani's Egalitarian playbook which is apparently that we avoid dealing with these hard passages. Well... here's an egalitarian who isn't doin

@GlennDavies @danitreweek About the lack of positive feedback. Twitter is a funny place. I'm still trying to figure it out. I studied this over many years and presented it at my church, but this is the first time I posted it on Twitter. Yeah, I d...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek About the lack of positive feedback. Twitter is a funny place. I'm still trying to figure it out. I studied this over many years and presented it at my church, but this is

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Ok, I appreciate you updating me. Not sure what you mean by conclusion based? I'm just showing how you can have an egalitarian interpretation of this difficult passage which is Biblically faithful. Is that "conclusion bas...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Ok, I appreciate you updating me. Not sure what you mean by conclusion based? I'm just showing how you can have an egalitarian interpretation of this difficult passage whic