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@LovelyMates @MikeWingerii Yet frequently the man builds or renovates or provide

@LovelyMates @MikeWingerii Yet frequently the man builds or renovates or provides the home and while he is at work, the mother is teaching kids how to fly. Still confused…

@LovelyMates @MikeWingerii What?? Both my wife and myself guide her. Why is th

@LovelyMates @MikeWingerii What?? Both my wife and myself guide her. Why is that a masculine role??

@MikeWingerii I’m afraid I don’t understand. You mean when I do dishes or chang

@MikeWingerii I’m afraid I don’t understand. You mean when I do dishes or change diapers or teach children that I lose my manliness? And if my daughter changes the tires and oil on the car or mows t

@MikeWingerii You cannot really say what complementarians believe because it is

@MikeWingerii You cannot really say what complementarians believe because it is not monolithic. Some believe women cannot teach men, but they can teach women. I was discouraged from watching the wom

@8trackmynd @William_E_Wolfe True, but it seems the denomination wants egal chur

@8trackmynd @William_E_Wolfe True, but it seems the denomination wants egal churches to either be removed or for them to remove themselves. It seems that's where things are going.

@graceforprize @MikeWingerii @RickWarren Not true. There is an egal view that t

@graceforprize @MikeWingerii @RickWarren Not true. There is an egal view that traces Paul's flow of thought and relates this part back to the purpose of the letter which is for Timothy to remain in E

Gen3:15 1 Tim2:15 commentary

@MikeWingerii @graceforprize @RickWarren You hold to the view that 'the childbea

@MikeWingerii @graceforprize @RickWarren You hold to the view that 'the childbearing' in 1 Tim2:15 in context of the back reference to Adam and Eve is the seed of the woman in Gen3:15 or that this is

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@William_E_Wolfe Does that include the radical gender ideology that places only

@William_E_Wolfe Does that include the radical gender ideology that places only men in church leadership?

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@MikeWingerii That phrasing isn’t great, I agree. But the question is still the

@MikeWingerii That phrasing isn’t great, I agree. But the question is still there… at what point must a woman stop teaching her male child because it becomes a sin to do so?

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 But these passages are highly debated for good reasons. There is no statement "an elder must not be a woman." The grammar and wording and back ref to Adam and Eve, etc. and context are not properly tak...

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 But these passages are highly debated for good reasons. There is no statement "an elder must not be a woman." The grammar and wording and back ref to A

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 Complementarian leaders are doing what they believe is right, so I don't think they should be forced to allow women if they think it's not Biblical, but they shouldn't treat others as though they are in ...

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 Complementarian leaders are doing what they believe is right, so I don't think they should be forced to allow women if they think it's not Biblical, but

@MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 Except there seems to be a number who feel support

@MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 Except there seems to be a number who feel supporting women pastors or likely even being egalitarian as “high handed rebellion” https://t.co/PFGfoVyXTt

@dalepartridge What's a "male station"? If you think you have a "higher positio

@dalepartridge What's a "male station"? If you think you have a "higher position of authority" then be like Jesus and do not consider this position something to be grasped onto, but lower yourself to

Phil 2:5-8 debate

@kitchenSvenk30 @MikeWingerii You want to disfellowship people who think that wo

@kitchenSvenk30 @MikeWingerii You want to disfellowship people who think that women should be able to preach true doctrine and serve as elders and deacons?

@MikeWingerii Unlike the other one you listed which was men should volunteer for

@MikeWingerii Unlike the other one you listed which was men should volunteer for teaching kids classes, this one is just ad hominem and can be safely ignored.

@William_E_Wolfe Did you notice that 1 Tim 2:12 is not a command? Also, what yo

@William_E_Wolfe Did you notice that 1 Tim 2:12 is not a command? Also, what you are calling sin is not listed in any sin list. Further, Paul never stopped anyone from preaching the gospel even if t

1 Tim 2:12 question

@MikeWingerii More questions… if a man is an overseer and a woman is teaching other women scripture, how is he to oversee her teaching without listening to it? To this a pastor I know concludes she is not allowed to teach authoritatively as he does,...

@MikeWingerii More questions… if a man is an overseer and a woman is teaching other women scripture, how is he to oversee her teaching without listening to it? To this a pastor I know concludes she i

@MikeWingerii We could say that pastors should be Jewish males because Jesus onl

@MikeWingerii We could say that pastors should be Jewish males because Jesus only chose Jewish male apostles. And you can see where this is going…sounds a lot like the Judaizers who were spying on t

@MikeWingerii The view that restricts a person from a position because of gender

@MikeWingerii The view that restricts a person from a position because of gender comes with all kinds of difficult to answer questions. So the response that you quoted from that all men should teach

@MikeWingerii The problem is that the Bible doesn’t give any guidance. When is

@MikeWingerii The problem is that the Bible doesn’t give any guidance. When is it wrong for a mother to teach her male child? When he reaches 12? 18? If a woman is teaching women scripture and a m

@PastorSJCamp @DaveSmith2019 @William_E_Wolfe Hi Steve. I am a long time fan of

@PastorSJCamp @DaveSmith2019 @William_E_Wolfe Hi Steve. I am a long time fan of your music. But taking these passages out of context isn’t an argument. JWs do this all the time to which the right r

@William_E_Wolfe How is trying to follow the Bible as best as one can in a way t

@William_E_Wolfe How is trying to follow the Bible as best as one can in a way that doesn’t contradict the grammar, context and other scripture a sin? Where is women preaching/speaking/leading/pastor

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@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of the same flesh. How does that communicate hierarchy? Animals were made before Adam but don't rule over the man, so be

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii It's not just the SBC. Most complementarians I h

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii It's not just the SBC. Most complementarians I have discussed with, the subject goes that direction. If you can ignore such clear teaching, this issue is like a portal

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii Your summary here is a 1 minute synopsis of something Rick could state to show he is considering these texts. When he goes off to other texts⎯though they are helpful, they don't work for most complementarians as they a...

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii Your summary here is a 1 minute synopsis of something Rick could state to show he is considering these texts. When he goes off to other texts⎯though they are helpful, t

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii You are right in the sense that he doesn't have to repeat the work of others, but he should explain he is not ignoring these passages and that there are other Biblically faithful interpretations which do not contradict ...

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii You are right in the sense that he doesn't have to repeat the work of others, but he should explain he is not ignoring these passages and that there are other Biblically

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The qualifications in Titus 1 are very similar to 1 Tim 3. Faithfulness to one's spouse (if they have one) is a character quality. Paul doesn't make ethnicity, socioeconomic status or gender a qualificatio...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The qualifications in Titus 1 are very similar to 1 Tim 3. Faithfulness to one's spouse (if they have one) is a character quality. Paul doesn't make ethnic

@catholic_dan7 @MadJorgen @5pointsMckinley There is no more sacrifice since Jesus offered Himself once and for all time and He alone stands as our high priest in the presence of the Father. Also...only levites are allowed to be priests and only in t...

@catholic_dan7 @MadJorgen @5pointsMckinley There is no more sacrifice since Jesus offered Himself once and for all time and He alone stands as our high priest in the presence of the Father. Also...on

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood You do realize there is no marriage or giving in marriage in the next age, right? It is time for women to mature and take their place of shared responsibility to prepare them for the next a...

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood You do realize there is no marriage or giving in marriage in the next age, right? It is time for women to mature and take their place of sh

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Someone had to come from the other one. Adam was the source of Eve, not her authority. Nowhere is he told to rule over her, except a prophesy after the fall which you seem to agree is the ...

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Someone had to come from the other one. Adam was the source of Eve, not her authority. Nowhere is he told to rule over her, except a proph

@southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood A text without a context is a pretext. And no, it is not clear as can be. 'A woman' is not 'women' (Paul knows grammar), and "A bishop cannot be a woman" would be as clear as it can be. Do you have u...

@southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood A text without a context is a pretext. And no, it is not clear as can be. 'A woman' is not 'women' (Paul knows grammar), and "A bishop cannot be a wom

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@5pointsMckinley A pastor is simply someone who guides and disciples a group of

@5pointsMckinley A pastor is simply someone who guides and disciples a group of believers. That this is relegated to males only and not based on character, gifting and skillset is like saying all pas

@revjeffvox @5pointsMckinley Mike Winger responds to most of the egalitarian arguments which are poor. But the ones which are good he spends little time on and some he ignores. But he does not have an exegesis of the key passages which makes all th...

@revjeffvox @5pointsMckinley Mike Winger responds to most of the egalitarian arguments which are poor. But the ones which are good he spends little time on and some he ignores. But he does not have

@rankheresy There are lots of Bibles you can get with built in mini-commentaries

@rankheresy There are lots of Bibles you can get with built in mini-commentaries. I’m not a big fan of these. A cross reference Bible is very helpful. The NET translator notes are also really usefu

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii We can certainly agree with Warren’s points on th

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii We can certainly agree with Warren’s points on these passages, but he has to exegete the hard passages for women in leadership, namely 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 T

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer 1/ Let me get this straight. This passage clearly says “husband of one wife” but you say and elder doesn’t have to be married. It says clearly “one who manages his house” and “keeps his children under cont...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer 1/ Let me get this straight. This passage clearly says “husband of one wife” but you say and elder doesn’t have to be married. It says clearly “one who man

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer I am not denying Paul uses the words “husband” and “wife” yet you seem to understand that it doesn’t require marriage. You probably also agree that an elder doesn’t have to have children even though that is...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer I am not denying Paul uses the words “husband” and “wife” yet you seem to understand that it doesn’t require marriage. You probably also agree that an elder

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The only thing being destroyed is the false teaching that elder applies only to males. There is nothing that says in 1 Tim 3 or Titus 1 that an elder must not be a woman. If you want to be wooden literal, ...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The only thing being destroyed is the false teaching that elder applies only to males. There is nothing that says in 1 Tim 3 or Titus 1 that an elder must n

singular. 2:15 1 Tim 2:11-15 general

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Whoops. I was commenting on 1 Tim 2:

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Whoops. I was commenting on 1 Tim 2:11-15. Chapter 3 is non-specific. I don’t see a ‘couple’ in 1 Tim 1. 2:9 is plural not singular. 2:15 is singular no

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Adam and Eve are a prototype of this

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Adam and Eve are a prototype of this couple in Ephesus. Why doesn’t Paul name and mark the woman teaching error? Because she ignorant and deceived (like Pa

1 Ti 1:13 question

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer 1 Tim 3:1—If τις (anyone/someone) aspires to the office of ἐπισκοπῆς (overseer, feminine). Then we get a list of requirements followed by "women likewise". μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα means monogamous. Nowhere is...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer 1 Tim 3:1—If τις (anyone/someone) aspires to the office of ἐπισκοπῆς (overseer, feminine). Then we get a list of requirements followed by "women likewise".

1 Tim 3:1 commentary

@PenmanshipPlus @kjfit33 @WWUTTcom A woman preaching true doctrine and assisting

@PenmanshipPlus @kjfit33 @WWUTTcom A woman preaching true doctrine and assisting with the ministry in a pastoral role is degenerate? I don’t think you know what that word means.

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@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Really? So where exactly does it say

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Really? So where exactly does it say “an elder must not be a woman”?

@Mark_MCRider @TomBuck So now being able to understand the Bible is relegated to

@Mark_MCRider @TomBuck So now being able to understand the Bible is relegated to old men??

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Cor 7:1 commentary

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen So only husbands can teach? You know you are sawing off the branch you are standing on…Paul wasn’t married. In 1 Cor 7:1 Paul indicates he is responding to things they wrote him. 1 Cor 14:34-35 are a quo...

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen So only husbands can teach? You know you are sawing off the branch you are standing on…Paul wasn’t married. In 1 Cor 7:1 Paul indicates he is responding t

@WWUTTcom Surely Elevation and other churches have problems, but the fact that you would use the issue of women pastors as a means to get them out is abhorrent. If they have abhorrent doctrine then why not deal with that? You sound like a boy upset...

@WWUTTcom Surely Elevation and other churches have problems, but the fact that you would use the issue of women pastors as a means to get them out is abhorrent. If they have abhorrent doctrine then w

@matt_vander1701 @nothanksnopeyno @megbasham There was singing and preaching I h

@matt_vander1701 @nothanksnopeyno @megbasham There was singing and preaching I hear too. Seems a bit churchy. I thought it was shameful for a woman to speak in the ecclesia. Seems you just make the

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer So you believe women can use their te

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer So you believe women can use their teaching and preaching gift from the pulpit so long as they are not called elder or pastor?

@_nomadic_soul Yes. I feel that as a man who has an understanding of these pass

@_nomadic_soul Yes. I feel that as a man who has an understanding of these passages that it is my responsibility to defend women and try my best to convince these pastors of the truth.

@_nomadic_soul I consider myself a fundamentalist Christian but I believe in the

@_nomadic_soul I consider myself a fundamentalist Christian but I believe in the equality of men and women. I also believe the scripture is inspired and inerrant and that there are Biblically sound e