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@LucaBeth_Writer @RickWarren Learn to work with people that disagree with you on secondary matters which are not matters of sin. The SBC shouldn’t have baked male only pastors into the agreement but we’ve also learned a lot along the way so they sho...

@LucaBeth_Writer @RickWarren Learn to work with people that disagree with you on secondary matters which are not matters of sin. The SBC shouldn’t have baked male only pastors into the agreement but

@LucaBeth_Writer @RickWarren I have lots of things I could quibble with Warren regarding his methods and his exegesis. However, I believe his conclusions are right on this issue though I’m not sure he has done the work to thoroughly study the hard p...

@LucaBeth_Writer @RickWarren I have lots of things I could quibble with Warren regarding his methods and his exegesis. However, I believe his conclusions are right on this issue though I’m not sure h

@LucaBeth_Writer @RickWarren Maybe the majority vote doesn’t agree with scriptur

@LucaBeth_Writer @RickWarren Maybe the majority vote doesn’t agree with scripture. Maybe the majority are wrong. Is that even a possibility in your world?

@ProfeChaoRomero @NijayKGupta Exactly. The odd thing I don’t think most complem

@ProfeChaoRomero @NijayKGupta Exactly. The odd thing I don’t think most complementarians realize is that women are not really restricted, just complementarians (primarily the men) are restricted from

@tomascol The reason is purportedly to be more faithful to scripture not to aban

@tomascol The reason is purportedly to be more faithful to scripture not to abandon it. Why not form another denomination? Over what, a non essential secondary issue? Why not instead work together

RT @NijayKGupta: On AUTHENTEIN, I am a professional Bible translator, I have wri

RT @NijayKGupta: On AUTHENTEIN, I am a professional Bible translator, I have written about this in TELL HER STORY, I have looked up all the…

@MiddleBrownie @TheGayPastorTom @RupZip @RickWarren Maybe it’s the case that if

@MiddleBrownie @TheGayPastorTom @RupZip @RickWarren Maybe it’s the case that if people go egalitarian despite scripture but not if they do it to be faithful to scripture. Yes, to be faithful.

@TheGayPastorTom @RupZip @RickWarren Jesus’ division was over the gospel and sin

@TheGayPastorTom @RupZip @RickWarren Jesus’ division was over the gospel and sin! How is a woman preaching and teaching true doctrine and pastoring a sin?

@MarvinMediocre @cpa_dallas @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi If Paul is EXCLUDING

@MarvinMediocre @cpa_dallas @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi If Paul is EXCLUDING all females, then this would need to be explicit.

@MikeWingerii @116nathanwalker 3/ Belleville’s article showing the bias in the l

@MikeWingerii @116nathanwalker 3/ Belleville’s article showing the bias in the lexical evidence and a strong case for a negative application of authentein is very strong. So can a man authentein anot

@MikeWingerii @116nathanwalker Priscilla didn’t teach in the local church? Wher

@MikeWingerii @116nathanwalker Priscilla didn’t teach in the local church? Where did you get that idea from? How does this make Paul contradictory? Or are you presuming a generic application of 1 T

1 Tim 2:11-12 question

@cpa_dallas @Aninymouse @HwsEleutheroi Wow!! A synagogue of Satan simply becaus

@cpa_dallas @Aninymouse @HwsEleutheroi Wow!! A synagogue of Satan simply because women are allowed to use the gifting God gave them to preach and teach true doctrine and partake in the responsibility

@MadJorgen @RickWarren Paul knows his grammar. Why then does he use ‘a woman’ a

@MadJorgen @RickWarren Paul knows his grammar. Why then does he use ‘a woman’ and ‘a man’ when he could have clearly said I don’t permit women to teach…men? So there is no possible way (in your view

@MadJorgen @RickWarren Isn’t the point to explain what this passage means in context consistent with the fact it is a personal letter written to Timothy to deal with false teachers (not stopping women from teaching the truth) and dealing with ignoran...

@MadJorgen @RickWarren Isn’t the point to explain what this passage means in context consistent with the fact it is a personal letter written to Timothy to deal with false teachers (not stopping women

@Nkajunwa @HwsEleutheroi After all of this discussion, you still haven’t demonst

@Nkajunwa @HwsEleutheroi After all of this discussion, you still haven’t demonstrated that Paul’s intent was to exclude women from the office of overseer. John 12:25 says “he who loves his life loses

John 12:25 question

@Nkajunwa @HwsEleutheroi I’m not conflating the advise for younger widows with 1 Tim 3 but showing that the requirements for elders are similar to widows in that they had to be monogamous and they need to show that they can ‘manage their housholds’ (...

@Nkajunwa @HwsEleutheroi I’m not conflating the advise for younger widows with 1 Tim 3 but showing that the requirements for elders are similar to widows in that they had to be monogamous and they nee

1Ti5:14 debate

@MarvinMediocre @cpa_dallas @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi Yes literally written

@MarvinMediocre @cpa_dallas @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi Yes literally written, but it means monogamous (if married) as Paul wasn’t married himself. If an elder must not be female then that needs t

@cpa_dallas @MarvinMediocre @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi Yes, the Greek is literally “one woman (genitive) man (accusative),” that is that the woman belongs to the man. But this does not 1/ require that an elder must be married as Paul wasn’t marr...

@cpa_dallas @MarvinMediocre @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi Yes, the Greek is literally “one woman (genitive) man (accusative),” that is that the woman belongs to the man. But this does not 1/ require

@cpa_dallas @MarvinMediocre @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi But Paul isn’t himsel

@cpa_dallas @MarvinMediocre @LauralovsJesus @HwsEleutheroi But Paul isn’t himself “the husband of one wife.” Can someone who doesn’t meet the requirement himself be in a higher position to appoint th

@MarvinMediocre @LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi I’m sorry, I think I

@MarvinMediocre @LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi I’m sorry, I think I missed this clear point. I’m not interested in what I like or don’t like but what the Bible says and truth. Please hel

@Nkajunwa @HwsEleutheroi While 1 Tim 5:9 is referring to widows, the same things

@Nkajunwa @HwsEleutheroi While 1 Tim 5:9 is referring to widows, the same things are said, in fact the “one man wife” is translated as “faithful to her husband” but could have been “monogamous.” And

1 Tim 5:9 debate

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi I’ve read it and studied it carefully. I used to believe as you. The passage in context is not saying women cannot teach men, but ‘a’ woman cannot teach or “take authority” (means murderer, absolute master...

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi I’ve read it and studied it carefully. I used to believe as you. The passage in context is not saying women cannot teach men, but ‘a’ woman cannot teach or

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi If “anyone” (Greek ‘tis’) desires to be an overseer (feminine), they desire a good thing. An overseer (masculine)… The phrase “husband of one wife” is literally “one woman husband” just like it says “one m...

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi If “anyone” (Greek ‘tis’) desires to be an overseer (feminine), they desire a good thing. An overseer (masculine)… The phrase “husband of one wife” is lite

1 Tim 5:9 commentary

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi My wife felt relieved that she didn’t have the responsibility to lead in the home, but I showed her from scripture that we both have that responsibility. She was abdicating her God given responsibility. Sh...

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi My wife felt relieved that she didn’t have the responsibility to lead in the home, but I showed her from scripture that we both have that responsibility. Sh

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi Where does scripture say that man (I take it every man) will answer to God for yielding his ordained position over to women? You mean if I let my wife participate so we make decisions together, God will hol...

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi Where does scripture say that man (I take it every man) will answer to God for yielding his ordained position over to women? You mean if I let my wife parti

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi The reason is given as 1/ Adam was formed first and 2/ Adam was not deceived but Eve was (though he was beside her). So the order and deception are related. This couple in Ephesus had a similar situation, ...

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi The reason is given as 1/ Adam was formed first and 2/ Adam was not deceived but Eve was (though he was beside her). So the order and deception are related.

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi By no means am I suggesting that every woman should be a pastor. It’s a gifting from God and there are requirements. I just don’t think biblically that gender is a requirement for leadership. Women can le...

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi By no means am I suggesting that every woman should be a pastor. It’s a gifting from God and there are requirements. I just don’t think biblically that gen

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi Then why wasn’t Paul more clear to sa

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi Then why wasn’t Paul more clear to say “an elder must not be a woman”? Why isn’t it very clear as you state? Should a man counsel a woman alone or might it

@cybrohornet @noahsflood_ @pastordmack @RickWarren Not much more that I can say

@cybrohornet @noahsflood_ @pastordmack @RickWarren Not much more that I can say to that. At least you are honest.

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren No, that’s called the genetic fallacy. I

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren No, that’s called the genetic fallacy. It doesn’t follow that being egalitarian because of scripture leads to promoting clear sin.

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where is a man said to authentein over a

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where is a man said to authentein over anyone? Have you read Belleville’s paper showing how this is almost certainly a term with a strong negative connotation?

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren So your view is that you are not supposed to listen to a woman preaching true doctrine or prophesying the truth. Am I correct? That this is what Paul means? And he could not have a specific couple in mind wi...

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren So your view is that you are not supposed to listen to a woman preaching true doctrine or prophesying the truth. Am I correct? That this is what Paul means?

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Not suggesting to ignore it! But this w

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Not suggesting to ignore it! But this word has a negative connotation not positive. You said “men” but Paul said “a man.” Does Paul not know how to use the p

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where does Paul ever say that a man is to have “authentein” over anyone? Why does he use this rare word? The context is to stop FALSE teachers, not women. He highlights that there are ignorant and not ignora...

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where does Paul ever say that a man is to have “authentein” over anyone? Why does he use this rare word? The context is to stop FALSE teachers, not women. He

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren That’s not an answer, it’s a scripture w

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren That’s not an answer, it’s a scripture which we evidently have different interpretations of. “A woman” and “a man” is not all women or all men. Paul knows how

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren The emphasis is “one” not “must be marri

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren The emphasis is “one” not “must be married.” Paul, who was appointing elders, was single. How doesn’t he even meet the requirement if it means “must be marrie

@cpcwesterville @RickWarren But if your statement of faith concerning requirements for elders isn’t consistent with the text, you’ll need to revise it. Why does Paul use “tis” in 1 Tim 3 as a generic “someone” or “anyone”? Why doesn’t he just say “...

@cpcwesterville @RickWarren But if your statement of faith concerning requirements for elders isn’t consistent with the text, you’ll need to revise it. Why does Paul use “tis” in 1 Tim 3 as a generic

@ryanfred @RickWarren You are right if scripture is purposely being ignored. I cannot say whether or not Warren is doing this, but generally speaking if you affirm women pastors because of scripture and not in spite of scripture, then there’s no rea...

@ryanfred @RickWarren You are right if scripture is purposely being ignored. I cannot say whether or not Warren is doing this, but generally speaking if you affirm women pastors because of scripture

@OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Warren is not giving exegesis on the difficult passages. I wish he was better at that. But that doesn’t mean he’s wrong. How is he mangling God’s inerrant word exactly? Is it possible…I mean even if only 1% chance tha...

@OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren Warren is not giving exegesis on the difficult passages. I wish he was better at that. But that doesn’t mean he’s wrong. How is he mangling God’s inerrant word exactly?

@noahsflood_ @pastordmack @RickWarren What? Since when is it a sin for ANYONE t

@noahsflood_ @pastordmack @RickWarren What? Since when is it a sin for ANYONE to teach truth? Even a donkey rebuking Balaam seems to get a better rap than women who preach truth.

@jchrisland @RickWarren If someone knows better he names them and hands them over to satan to be taught not to blaspheme. Someone who is ignorant needs to be treated more gently. And in this personal letter to Timothy, both Paul and Timothy would k...

@jchrisland @RickWarren If someone knows better he names them and hands them over to satan to be taught not to blaspheme. Someone who is ignorant needs to be treated more gently. And in this persona

@jchrisland @RickWarren Paul is very specific. He says “a woman” not “women” and “a man” not “all men.” From chapter 1 we understand that Timothy is to remain in Ephesus to stop FALSE teachers not women…and we find out there are two types: ignorant...

@jchrisland @RickWarren Paul is very specific. He says “a woman” not “women” and “a man” not “all men.” From chapter 1 we understand that Timothy is to remain in Ephesus to stop FALSE teachers not w

@MadJorgen @RickWarren My goodness! This is a secondary issue! Don’t you have

@MadJorgen @RickWarren My goodness! This is a secondary issue! Don’t you have the humility to recognize you may not be correctly interpreting every passage? Even Peter said in 2 Pet 3:16 that Paul

2 Pet 3:16 debate

@Vicar0fChrist @gdianenelson @RickWarren One reason why there needs to be both female and male pastors is that women who need counselling don’t put male pastors into compromising situations. But what you seem to be saying is that males are restricte...

@Vicar0fChrist @gdianenelson @RickWarren One reason why there needs to be both female and male pastors is that women who need counselling don’t put male pastors into compromising situations. But what

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13, Titus 1:5-16, Genesis 2-3 and it has to be consistent with not inv

1 Tim 3:1 1 Tim 3:2 1Ti3:2 question

@HwsEleutheroi Why is the first usage of “overseer” in 1 Tim 3:1 feminine while in 1 Tim 3:2 it is masculine? “One man woman” (1Ti3:2) or “one woman man” (1Ti5:9) has the emphasis on “one” and can simply mean monogamous. Notice “manage their househ...

@HwsEleutheroi Why is the first usage of “overseer” in 1 Tim 3:1 feminine while in 1 Tim 3:2 it is masculine? “One man woman” (1Ti3:2) or “one woman man” (1Ti5:9) has the emphasis on “one” and can si

@HwsEleutheroi Where does Paul say “an elder must not be a woman”? Why does Pau

@HwsEleutheroi Where does Paul say “an elder must not be a woman”? Why does Paul use the term “tis” instead of “aner” in his requirements? If an elder must be married, how is it that one who appoint

@HwsEleutheroi Not defending Warren’s exegesis, but how is it that authentein is not used to state how men can positively have authority? Why would Paul choose this unique word? And did you not see “Women LIKEWISE…” in 1 Tim 3:11? This word means “...

@HwsEleutheroi Not defending Warren’s exegesis, but how is it that authentein is not used to state how men can positively have authority? Why would Paul choose this unique word? And did you not see “

1 Tim 3:11 debate

@MikeWingerii I don’t think Rick is big on exegesis. However, Belleville has done an excellent job in “Lexical Fallacies in Rendering authentein in 1 Timothy 2:12: BDAG in Light of Greek Literary and Nonliterary Usage.” Also, Paul has other words h...

@MikeWingerii I don’t think Rick is big on exegesis. However, Belleville has done an excellent job in “Lexical Fallacies in Rendering authentein in 1 Timothy 2:12: BDAG in Light of Greek Literary and

1 Timothy 2:12 debate