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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-03

@smashbaals Maybe you are having trouble reading the Bible in context. No scholar would take one of the most contested passages and call it “clear.” Think about this: why do women need to be silent in church? Is it to protect vulnerable, weak men ...

@smashbaals Maybe you are having trouble reading the Bible in context. No scholar would take one of the most contested passages and call it “clear.” Think about this: why do women need to be silent

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@holytension @holytensionhub I don’t disagree with you. I find a lot of reference to Greek for what appears to be for little reason other than to sound sophisticated like one knows what he is taking about. Ultimately, specifying what a Greek word c...

@holytension @holytensionhub I don’t disagree with you. I find a lot of reference to Greek for what appears to be for little reason other than to sound sophisticated like one knows what he is taking

@smashbaals Maybe you are having trouble reading the Bible in context. No scholar would take one of the most contested passages and call it “clear.” Think about this: why do women need to be silent in church? Is it to protect vulnerable, weak men ...

@holytension @holytensionhub I don’t disagree with you. I find a lot of reference to Greek for what appears to be for little reason other than to sound sophisticated like one knows what he is taking about. Ultimately, specifying what a Greek word c...

@brmorris Or we can apply ourselves to studying the context and with God’s help

@3HillsMinor @graceforprize @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Paul says “a woman” or “a wife” (which it is has to be determined by the context) and later says “the woman” in verse 14. This is an anaphoric use of the article back to “a woman”...

RT @ryanschatz: @kelcy_lowry @MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ That’s not

@kelcy_lowry @MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ That’s not what 1 Tim 2:12 means. One has to base their interpretation on the context. Every time I deal with someone from a cult—almost without fail—their bad readings of scripture come from rea...

@MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ Well, Paul's Greek leads me to my conclusions. He chooses not to use male pronouns but rather τις which means "anyone" or "someone." Further, he doesn't exclude women but says "women likewise..." Forbidding ...

@holytensionhub @holytension Great article! I agree that we shouldn’t need to know Greek to understand the meaning of the text. I think this is primarily because of how important context is and which is sufficient to guide the interpretation of the...

@felipeswife 1 Cor 14 talks about 2 or 3 people prophesying, plus all the other ways to contribute like prayers, tongues and interpretation, words of knowledge, etc. I think if more people came with the expectation of contributing rather than just c...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl The idea of "obeying your leaders" in the Greek means to be willing to be convinced. It doesn't mean "blind obedience" but openness and not a stubborn refusal to listen. But doing what they say requires that it mu...

@MikeWingerii @j_bambrick As for “I do not permit” being temporary or universal and the nature of authentein being positive because teaching can only be positive, Mike missed the forest for the trees. As Mike clearly proclaimed after his 4.5 hour di...

@ich1ban123456 @sympatheticNPC @DST_QA @ymmotrojam Just because Paul is dealing with a specific concern in the marital relationship doesn’t mean that he is affirming the already culturally acceptable idea that the husband is the master over his wife....

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, authority needs to be given. We need to deal with the text and not add things in that are not there when authority is given in this very context to both Adam and Eve. God gave dominion to humans as an imperative in Gen ...

@kelcy_lowry @chimpchompchamp Misinterpretation of God's word is certainly more common than sand on the seashore these days! However, I don't think the evidence points to Eve misinterpreting or adding to (lying about) what God said. Here's why: 1⃣...

@sympatheticNPC Here’s the result of debating with GPT just now: In the context of Genesis 3:17, the phrase "listened to the voice of his wife" indeed presents a nuanced situation. Since the text does not record a direct verbal exchange between Eve ...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Kephale having the possible meaning of source (supported by how the word is being used in its context) is absolutely important to the egalitarian view of these supposed gender hierarchy passages. Everything goes ba...

@BibleBashed @sympatheticNPC BDAG interprets this to mean to behave in a courageous way. This doesn’t mean a woman can physically overpower a man just like David couldn’t physically overpower Goliath. But the more the power differential, the more c...

@bagby_abe @BibleBashed You're referring to Mr. Bashed, right? Just look at the

@JonKismetCalvin @ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Hi John, I'm not sure that Artemis is something Paul is bringing into the context of 1 Timothy. Paul references: 1. v4: fables and genealogies (which cause disputes rather than ...

@TheYagosto @AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio Indeed, the verses seem to suggest a restriction and wrestling with them is a good and necessary thing. I appreciate when complementarians move from simply quoting the verse to trying to dive de...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl This is a misinterpretation of what is meant

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, it seems you are suggesting that we are not understanding the context of his book. So now that I've spent the $9 to get access to the context... From my reading, he is treating her like a child and disciplini...

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Where is the term “role” ever mentioned? And where

@Ripple_Train @ZacharyGarris You are correct that the Greek only says sons. It also says that all are sons, which you’ve also correctly noted. However, if all are sons and receive the inheritance of sons then that clearly indicates that there is no...

@realvamphours @IssaDegen @smashbaals On the other hand, when a complementarian “exegetes” it, it’s usually them just quoting it. Many don’t even seem to recognize that Paul’s grammar and word usage is complicated in this personal instruction to Tim...

@taxpayer0011 @tradwifetoday @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel No, I mean the context of the passage. I’m not interested in bending scripture or conforming it to culture. Perhaps you are not aware but it takes strength and guts to do what ...

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Scripture matters 100%! Every word, all the context, the

@IssaDegen @smashbaals It's Greek words, not Hebrew. The point is who the 'she' and 'they' are referring to in 1 Tim 2:15? If we can find the answer to that and make it make sense in the context and the rest of the grammar, we can understand what P...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'authentein' a man/husband"⎯what this is referring to ...

@tradwifetoday @taxpayer0011 @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel Of cours

@WybrowRobb @FGHart @DardoSergio @autocorrect2_0 I assume you’d agree that Paul

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve The question is what does the text mean by head, because Paul sees Adam as the head of Eve. Kephale has a range of meaning and the meaning intended is understood by the context. In this, t...

@ThandaM2 @SarahHOC @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve By reading in context and not ju

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi However, in this case we have two anarthrous, "a woman" and "Eve" and one arthrous "the woman"⎯we have to determine who fits. They are both close and there is no hard and fast rule how close. Paul's context and grammar wil...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi So what you are essentially admitting though is that it could be either way? How then would Paul differentiate from "a woman" and "Eve" in the context of this passage? We have other reasons to believe that Eve cannot be "t...

@ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I actually don't think this, but many complementarians see this as the role of the "head" of the marriage and church. For context, I am an engineer and both lead and serve an individual contributor role on projects at a...

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but source. The only place authority between the husban...

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word for woman is the same as wife and man the same as ...

@ronhenzel Most people have never heard of this term, so to the average person...it's complicated. You have extensive training in Greek and years of teaching it, so for you this is a yawner. But yes, this is not unique to Greek. I'm glad you agree...

@ymmotrojam Need I remind you that 1 Cor 14:34-35 comes *after* 1 Cor 11:5? If your interpretation is correct, Paul would have to say in chapter 11 that the women were doing something that they weren’t supposed to because it assumes they were doing ...

@MikeWingerii I go through my explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 without referring to

Here is an explanation by Dr. James White explaining how the anaphoric use works. It's a bit complicated, so I hope that this clip helps you understand how I arrived at this in my exegesis of 1 Tim 2:11-15. This is how I inferred that the anaphoric...

Here’s how 1 Tim 2:10-15 works syntactically and contextually⎯ Paul is not referring to a typical woman or women in general, but instructing Timothy on how to deal with a specific unnamed deceived woman who⎯like her prototype "Eve"⎯is handing the "a...

@ymmotrojam I am working on an exposition of 1 Cor 11:1-16. Paul is not commanding anything in verse 5. In verse 7, the words cut (κειράσθω) and cover (κατακαλυπτέσθω) are imperatives of toleration, ie. "let her cut" or "let her cover." The follow...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Listen, go find your favourite Greek scholar and tell them to come here and rebuke me. Does MacArthur do X? Piper is here. How about Grudem? Dr. White? Or just wait until I get d...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I am not advo

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Think about w

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Do you talk when you are being taught, or do you not also listen silently? The point is not to do the “but…but…but…” stuff but listen for the whole explanation. Role is not in the G...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Rob blocked m

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Now isn’t that interesting. So now it is disrespectful to use someone’s teaching on grammar if it supports my interpretation of another passage? 🤔 Listen, I know he doesn’t agree wi...

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@ymmotrojam Need I remind you that 1 Cor 14:34-35 comes after 1 Cor 11:5? If your interpretation is correct, Paul would have to say in chapter 11 that the women were doing something that they weren’t supposed to because it assumes they were doing ...