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For him it seems to come down to simply acting the part of an elder which he doe

For him it seems to come down to simply acting the part of an elder which he doesn't fully define. If teaching theology, then don't do it with authority; if correcting, then speak what you think but t

I think scripturally a deacon should be reserved for leaders, not just volunteer

I think scripturally a deacon should be reserved for leaders, not just volunteers. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to agree with Mike on this point as it does confuse people to think that pastor is above a

Mike says that he is trying to be consistent with the fact that the bible seems

Mike says that he is trying to be consistent with the fact that the bible seems to show that women can be in the highest position of authority, but rarely and not ideally (in his opinion). Mike seems

So although Mike agrees that a woman can lead and correct a king and judge matte

So although Mike agrees that a woman can lead and correct a king and judge matters of doctrine and settle disputes over anyone in Israel, somehow that still makes her less of an authority than a husba

Mike reasons that women can be in positions of authority because those positions

Mike reasons that women can be in positions of authority because those positions are not as important as marriage or church. [1:52:00] So Mike makes distinctions based on how he values positions in s

Mike talks about Abigail being in the right to subvert Nabal’s authority [1:42:0

Mike talks about Abigail being in the right to subvert Nabal’s authority [1:42:00] So Mike doesn't see it as unquestioning authority which is good. However, women will think 2x or 3x before they do t

However, vessel applies to our human body, not to things like authority. Is he m

However, vessel applies to our human body, not to things like authority. Is he making this up as he goes along? /30

Mike offers a correction to those who would take advantage of their greater auth

Mike offers a correction to those who would take advantage of their greater authority: “You should not think of this as a way to degrade women and think of them as less, but to treat them with underst

Mike talks about 1Pe 3:7, how women are the "weaker vessel" and how they are mor

Mike talks about 1Pe 3:7, how women are the "weaker vessel" and how they are more delicate (he says his wife’s hands are small "like a child’s"). Mike goes on to say, “But also weaker in that they hav

1Pe 3:7 debate

Mike says that women will inherit the authority of sons and will be full heirs.

Mike says that women will inherit the authority of sons and will be full heirs. [1:22:35] I recall him saying elsewhere that he thinks that the roles we are playing here on earth are temporary, and t

“Fast-forward to the future age, and we are all ruling and reigning with Christ,

“Fast-forward to the future age, and we are all ruling and reigning with Christ,” Mike says. So at least he acknowledges that there will be no difference in the next age and that both men and women wi

Yet it seems he still reserves the right to force his will because otherwise his

Yet it seems he still reserves the right to force his will because otherwise his authority is meaningless or token only. So Mike's only objection would have to be that forcing sex is not loving her a

Mike mentions the wife has authority over the husband’s body [1:16:35]. Well no

Mike mentions the wife has authority over the husband’s body [1:16:35]. Well now, who is the tiebreaker when there’s a stalemate on sex? 😂 I guess you don’t always need a tie breaker, eh Mike? /21

Mike's complaint is against those who believe that women share equal authority w

Mike's complaint is against those who believe that women share equal authority with men because being a man means to him that you are supposed to have higher authority than women, and unless you occup

Mike quotes 1Ti 5:14 which uses the word translated "manage" and says that women

Mike quotes 1Ti 5:14 which uses the word translated "manage" and says that women are called “despots” who also manage the home. Mike uses this to show that he believes women also have some authority.

1Ti 5:14 debate

Mike says that wives have authority over the children. He critiques those who tr

Mike says that wives have authority over the children. He critiques those who treat wives as having no authority and those who claim that complementarians believe that wives have no authority. (They a

However, laying down one's life is actually laying down your own needs and desir

However, laying down one's life is actually laying down your own needs and desires in order to come under and lift up another to satisfy their needs and/or desires. Perhaps he was just saying that re

Mike says that driving a car is an "authority" that we have. He says this in res

Mike says that driving a car is an "authority" that we have. He says this in response to Patriarchalists, including Muslims who don’t let their women drive. [1:06:58] How is this an authority? It see

Mike conflates father with head (ie. the authority) and mother as the one who su

Mike conflates father with head (ie. the authority) and mother as the one who submits him. So to Mike, to be a father is to be the authority. This is why he says a woman cannot be the authority. [1:05

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-02

@RenOfMen @michael_ronning @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @ZacharyGarris That's not at all what egalitarians think this verse means! Mothers can only be mothers and fathers, fathers, but what does that have to do with leadership roles? Patriarchalists a...

@RenOfMen @michael_ronning @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @ZacharyGarris That's not at all what egalitarians think this verse means! Mothers can only be mothers and fathers, fathers, but what does that h

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-02

@JonathanTreal Can't disagree with the craziness going on today, but it has noth

@JonathanTreal Can't disagree with the craziness going on today, but it has nothing to do with 1Ti 2:12 (at least based on what Paul intended in that verse). I also don't think males presenting as fem

1Ti 2:12 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-01

Pastor David Allen, critical of Calvinism and not vocally critical of women in l

Pastor David Allen, critical of Calvinism and not vocally critical of women in leadership might just be the change the #SBC needs. https://t.co/uIBWNG1vwO

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-29

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You presume leadership means authority over, when that is not the Biblical model. The woman described in Prov 31 exemplifies leadership and wisdom in her household and beyond. She influences and shows leadership to the fol...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You presume leadership means authority over, when that is not the Biblical model. The woman described in Prov 31 exemplifies leadership and wisdom in her household and beyo

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-29

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy In Romans 16, Paul mentions several women whom he praises for their work and contributions to the early Christian community, highlighting their roles and leadership. Here are the women mentioned: 1. Phoebe (Ro 16:1-2) - De...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy In Romans 16, Paul mentions several women whom he praises for their work and contributions to the early Christian community, highlighting their roles and leadership. Here ar

Ro 16:1-2 debate

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Everyone isn't cookie cut the way you seem to suggest as I know many women who are grade A leaders and teachers. Men tend to struggle more with the emotion called "anger"⎯did you forget that? Anger and fear can cloud one's ...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Everyone isn't cookie cut the way you seem to suggest as I know many women who are grade A leaders and teachers. Men tend to struggle more with the emotion called "anger"⎯di

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@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Just as the older men should instruct the younger men and lead by example, so also the older women should instruct the younger women and lead by example. But women teach males too. Women taught Timothy theology and were the...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Just as the older men should instruct the younger men and lead by example, so also the older women should instruct the younger women and lead by example. But women teach mal

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You are inferring that in order for her husband to fulfill his role as her authority (ie. by sitting in the gate of the city), that she has to deal with stuff around the home. Nowhere is this text saying that he is her aut...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You are inferring that in order for her husband to fulfill his role as her authority (ie. by sitting in the gate of the city), that she has to deal with stuff around the hom

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy That's correct. So you are presuming that if we don't see 50% females sitting in the gate then men are obviously in authority over women? I'm not saying she had to be in the gate. Maybe men like to sit around and watch peo...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy That's correct. So you are presuming that if we don't see 50% females sitting in the gate then men are obviously in authority over women? I'm not saying she had to be in th

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy I don't decide whether someone is suited for a role based on situational details alone. My previous church was in a bad situation, but current church is not. My previous church's situation was primarily because of a bad mal...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy I don't decide whether someone is suited for a role based on situational details alone. My previous church was in a bad situation, but current church is not. My previous chu

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Women tend to think differently which is why I'm glad that both me and my wife lead together. I don't trump her because she brings a different perspective or gifts to our relationship. My decision isn't final because I'm ma...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Women tend to think differently which is why I'm glad that both me and my wife lead together. I don't trump her because she brings a different perspective or gifts to our re

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Your comment "...they were not made for" is what I'm

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Your comment "...they were not made for" is what I'm contesting. Is the husband operating heavy machinery? Women were not made physically as the stronger partner. Leadership

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@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy "It's her husband who's in leadership" Actually, the whole passage is about how she is a competent leader in everything she touches with a verse noting that her husband is also a leader. Where did you read that she has to...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy "It's her husband who's in leadership" Actually, the whole passage is about how she is a competent leader in everything she touches with a verse noting that her husband is

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy So if I understand your point, the fact that the proverbs 31 woman isn’t stated as sitting in the gate with her husband means that he is an authority over her and tells her what she can and cannot do? The fact that Deborah ...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy So if I understand your point, the fact that the proverbs 31 woman isn’t stated as sitting in the gate with her husband means that he is an authority over her and tells her

@JoanBandy @BogdanOancea77 That's right. If Paul meant authority, why did he choose such an extremely rare verb even in non-Biblical sources. But with clues from the context and references, we can piece together what Paul is doing and confirm this ne...

@JoanBandy @BogdanOancea77 That's right. If Paul meant authority, why did he choose such an extremely rare verb even in non-Biblical sources. But with clues from the context and references, we can pie

@Carol52538896 @Revelation_14_7 BTW, you quoted 1Ti 2:12 and I presume you believe you are not supposed to teach or take authority over a man, yet here you are correcting me. Does that only apply for you on Sunday mornings for 90 minutes and you are ...

@Carol52538896 @Revelation_14_7 BTW, you quoted 1Ti 2:12 and I presume you believe you are not supposed to teach or take authority over a man, yet here you are correcting me. Does that only apply for

1Ti 2:12 debate

@baste_goblin @TomWarlord @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_

@baste_goblin @TomWarlord @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Is the one helping under the authority of the one being helped?

@OnionPizza68693 @TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_

@OnionPizza68693 @TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You mean “patriarchal minded women get cagey…”? When someone tells you that you are rebelling against God if you d

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn That’s because your wife is a complementarian. And it’s working for you and so the only thing that’s a problem is i

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Initially my wife was happy to not share the responsibility of leadership. But if she is going to judge the world and angels one day, I figured she should get some p...

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Initially my wife was happy to not share the responsibility of leadership. But if she is going to judge the world a

1Co 6:2-3 debate

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You know what I think? That you stand to lose if you give up your “overruling authority.” You don’t want to give that up. Who would? I’m glad that you don’t abuse y...

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You know what I think? That you stand to lose if you give up your “overruling authority.” You don’t want to give th

@baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Without a doubt, my wife and I do not share the same levels of Testosterone. However, your aggressive handling of me in this forum shows how high T levels are not li...

@baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Without a doubt, my wife and I do not share the same levels of Testosterone. However, your aggressive handling of m

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn I find the vast majority of complementarians and Patriarchalists assume I’m not even a believer and apostate simply because I don’t think a godly woman should be pre...

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn I find the vast majority of complementarians and Patriarchalists assume I’m not even a believer and apostate simply

@LutheranLifter I’m afraid to ask what that means. Egalitarian doesn’t mean that

@LutheranLifter I’m afraid to ask what that means. Egalitarian doesn’t mean that women become men but that women, if qualified, are not forbidden from leading. Gen 1:28 is a command given to both the

Gen 1:28 debate

@BlackPatriarch1 @princess_dee95 Those who promoted slavery using the Bible were doing the same kind of thing that people today are doing by using the Bible to forbid women from leadership and teaching roles. The only way to know if you got it right ...

@BlackPatriarch1 @princess_dee95 Those who promoted slavery using the Bible were doing the same kind of thing that people today are doing by using the Bible to forbid women from leadership and teachin

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Great, we are back to talking about scripture again. It's not hard to find a commentator that agrees with you, but of course, we both adhere to Sola Scriptura, so whatever they say has to be tested agains...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Great, we are back to talking about scripture again. It's not hard to find a commentator that agrees with you, but of course, we both adhere to Sola Scrip

@MartinMarkLuth1 I only mentioned them because you seemed to think women preache

@MartinMarkLuth1 I only mentioned them because you seemed to think women preachers only came about in the last 50 years. I am not saying we test doctrine by church history. We test it by scripture. I

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn A heretic, huh? So a godly woman teaching truth to someone is damnable heresy? Where do you find this "sin" in any list of sins? Go ahead and look for it. You are misinterpreting the scripture. You are fr...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn A heretic, huh? So a godly woman teaching truth to someone is damnable heresy? Where do you find this "sin" in any list of sins? Go ahead and look for it.

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first marriage, I as the husband am the source of my wif...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@EddieBucha10986 But my belief that God doesn’t forbid women is on Biblical grounds. I’m not ignoring anything in the Bible. To block godly, qualified and gifted women from serving as leaders would go against what I believe the Bible teaches and ther...

@EddieBucha10986 But my belief that God doesn’t forbid women is on Biblical grounds. I’m not ignoring anything in the Bible. To block godly, qualified and gifted women from serving as leaders would go

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@SpecterAndBride I've read them, but if you have one in particular we can go through it. If you get Genesis wrong, it taints your view of all these passages. Instead of viewing them as source relationships, you see everything in terms of authority an...

@SpecterAndBride I've read them, but if you have one in particular we can go through it. If you get Genesis wrong, it taints your view of all these passages. Instead of viewing them as source relation