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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-25

@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotr

@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I think God left the original statement out of the text to challenge Complementarians and Patriarchal

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-25

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @ewarner88 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Male covenantal headship is being read into the account. All that the account states is that Adam was created first in time sequence and therefore expe...

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @ewarner88 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Male covenantal headship is being read into the account. All that the account states is that Adam was

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-24

@TheMuppetPastor @ryancduff @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland You don’t evaluate som

@TheMuppetPastor @ryancduff @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland You don’t evaluate something by your experience; you evaluate it by scripture.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-24

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Where are women forbidden from Se

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Where are women forbidden from Serving as leaders and pastors?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-24

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland We were an RCA church

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland We were an RCA church but left the denomination because RCA didn’t vote down gay marriage.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-24

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland My church is following

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland My church is following the Biblical instruction. That instruction doesn’t forbid godly women from teaching truth, leading or pastoral ministry

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-24

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Are women supposed to submit to n

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Are women supposed to submit to not taking leadership roles in church? Are women supposed to submit to male only pastors (since there are no female past

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-24

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland The complementarian argument is t

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland The complementarian argument is that because of biological differences, women are to submit to men (not mutually) and are not to hold leadership roles. T

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii That's correct, both women and men are very convinced that only men can lead in church⎯for sure for the 2 hours church is on. Then I find the same women out corre...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii That's correct, both women and men are very convinced that only men can lead in church⎯for sure for the 2 hours

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeW

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii (Says the man). Hey, Ron, what would happen perchance if your wife disagreed with you and became an egalitarian

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@RyanMessano Huh? Lukewarm? Because I disagree with you on the basis of scripture itself? A godly women who speaks true doctrine, teaches it or pastors is not in rebellion to God. You cannot make up prohibitions. Prohibiting things that God doesn't p...

@RyanMessano Huh? Lukewarm? Because I disagree with you on the basis of scripture itself? A godly women who speaks true doctrine, teaches it or pastors is not in rebellion to God. You cannot make up p

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Do you want to follow doctrines of demons or what the Bible actually means?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Ok, let me rephrase, you are the one who believes the Bible is forbidding, just like the Pharisees and the Jewish leaders in the time of Jesus who...

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Ok, let me rephrase, you are the one who believes the Bible is forbidding, just like the Pharise

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii You are the one doing the forbidding. Did you know that there is a scripture about those who for

1Ti 4:1-3 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @Happy_AHeathen @JollyStine @pastherandie @

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @Happy_AHeathen @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii So the serious error that Paul left Timothy behind to fix was that godly women were teaching cor

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @Happy_AHeathen @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii But in the one case, he is saying the opposite of what you said, and in the other case he is dealing with false teaching, not telling anyone to st...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @Happy_AHeathen @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii But in the one case, he is saying the opposite of what you said, and in the other case he is dea

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii But we both believe that the Bible is inspired, right? In every word and even the grammar? I am not throwing out any part of it. Everything in com...

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii But we both believe that the Bible is inspired, right? In every word and even the grammar? I am

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @

@ymmotrojam @Happy_AHeathen @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii You are framing this as a fundamental disagreement over the Bible? Wow, Tom. That certainly turn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@Aliphaire @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom is misrepresenting Paul’s words. Paul actually quoted those who though like Tom and said the following: "What? came the word of God out from you? ...

@Aliphaire @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom is misrepresenting Paul’s words. Paul actually quoted those who though like Tom and said the foll

1Co 14:36 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, I’ll go to the church without leaders who believe that they as men are the only ones who the word came to and the only ones who the word comes forth from. I...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, I’ll go to the church without leaders who believe that they as men are the only ones who the word came to a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just read "Hard Sayings of the Bible," by Walter C. Kaiser Jr, Peter H Davids, FF Bruce, Manfred T. Brauch from 1996. The part on 1Co 14:34-35 does not propose...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just read "Hard Sayings of the Bible," by Walter C. Kaiser Jr, Peter H Davids, FF Bruce, Manfred T. Brauch fro

1Co 14:34-35 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeW

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii No, they are there to teach us something. No sharpie required. The fact that Paul is refuting what these Judiaze

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii You said it was dishonouring to say Paul was quoting from the Corinthians (well, likely the Judiazers who infiltrated them like the church at Galatia). How is tha...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii You said it was dishonouring to say Paul was quoting from the Corinthians (well, likely the Judiazers who infilt

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ortrails This isn’t about what happens to some men as if it was about losing ou

@ortrails This isn’t about what happens to some men as if it was about losing our hair covering then Paul would be advocating for the *men* to cover their bald heads. Here’s what this passage means. h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii You know that Paul is quoting from the Corinthians elsewhere too, right? It’s dishonouring to the Holy Spirit for Paul to quote them and to correct them? Why are ...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii You know that Paul is quoting from the Corinthians elsewhere too, right? It’s dishonouring to the Holy Spirit fo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii The vi

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii The view that Paul is silencing unruly women in all the churches doesn’t make sense of the details in these verses. The only v

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, Ron, you think everyone always agrees? So you agree with all complementarians? Mike Winger thinks women can be deacons. About 1Co 14:34-45. Philip Payne thinks these vers...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, Ron, you think everyone always agrees? So you agree with all complementarians? Mike Winger thinks women can be deacons.

1Co 14:34-45 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-12 is about a specific woman appears to be the ext...

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-

1Ti 2:11-12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, you are putting artificial constraints on the text. Why does Paul have to give women permission separately when his instructions are meant for all? "For you can ALL proph...

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, you are putting artificial constraints on the text. Why does Paul have to give women permission separately when his instr

1Co 14:31 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, this is not a defeater of my assertion that “the woman” is an anaphoric reference to “a woman.” Without v14 and the article, we would have more reason to consider vs11-12 ...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, this is not a defeater of my assertion that “the woman” is an anaphoric reference to “a woman.” Without v14 and the artic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus couldn’t be an elder in His own church! The require...

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus co

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@ScottCross_8 @ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii What Ron said is disingenuous. He knows that this has nothing to do with beginner Greek. I can even show Dr Wallace saying that the article is not required to poi...

@ScottCross_8 @ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii What Ron said is disingenuous. He knows that this has nothing to do with beginner Greek. I can even show Dr Wall

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Your s

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Your statement that I’m making a beginner Greek mistake is disingenuous. You should take it back, Ron, because I know that you

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii From Dr. Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: “Most individualizing articles will be anaphoric in a very broad sense. That is, they will be used to point out something t...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii From Dr. Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: “Most individualizing articles will be anaphoric in a very broad sense. T

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, y

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, you *absolutely know* that what I’m explaining works. This has nothing to do with “beginner Greek” because the same idea

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@Torncurtainorg @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii In addition to Scott's question, my question is why the physical aspect of protection has anything to do with leadership in church. Women have the instinc...

@Torncurtainorg @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii In addition to Scott's question, my question is why the physical aspect of protection has anything to do

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @JollyStine @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My former church went to this as the last stage before becoming egalitarian. The trigger was when the senior pastor left and the associate, a female, wanted to be consi...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @JollyStine @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My former church went to this as the last stage before becoming egalitarian. The trigger was when the senior pastor le

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. K

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. Keep it up! The Christ/church picture demonstrates mutual submission, not one person with the trump card over the other.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@Aub42 Fair. It's more important once people start acting on difficult passages like this and using them to suppress women. But when you understand what it really means, you get a really great appreciation for what God wants us to understand in scrip...

@Aub42 Fair. It's more important once people start acting on difficult passages like this and using them to suppress women. But when you understand what it really means, you get a really great appreci

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians time to catch up and many believe that as long as...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1,5 (elect lady) and vs 13 (chosen sister)? Also, w...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@FraudDMartin Not everyone thinks this way. I’m not even sure Smash does…he seem

@FraudDMartin Not everyone thinks this way. I’m not even sure Smash does…he seems to generate click bait posts. His concern is that woman should not be pastors as he thinks the Bible forbids them. Bu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such pra...

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone

1Co 11:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritativ

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritatively” (whatever that means), nor occupy the role of an elder, nor do anything to make it appear that they are acting in t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral roles. It is referring to “a woman” which v14 spec...

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@Here4Now0829 @smashbaals @bornagainbrett I see. It may be that there are no wom

@Here4Now0829 @smashbaals @bornagainbrett I see. It may be that there are no women prophets or gifted to teach in your entire church, but do they forbid women from teaching, reading scripture, prophes

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@aMalacandra That’s certainly how it can feel though most seem to say that women

@aMalacandra That’s certainly how it can feel though most seem to say that women should learn. They are just stuck on the whole pastor thing.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Where is “exerting authority over” someone stated in a

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Where is “exerting authority over” someone stated in a positive way for anyone? Does you pastor exert authority over you on Sunday morning? What, by simply reading the Bible

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@MatneyWoodard Attacking women serving as pastors and calling them in sin is doi

@MatneyWoodard Attacking women serving as pastors and calling them in sin is doing exactly as you describe.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@SwordMasterPub It shows that an apostle can also be an elder/overseer/pastor.

@SwordMasterPub It shows that an apostle can also be an elder/overseer/pastor. Only Peter and John self identify as elders. Are there only two elders in the New Testament?

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