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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@MrRoyMcAvoy @kelcy_lowry @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ Are you suggesting I’m a false convert because I demonstrate a scriptural basis for godly women teaching true doctrine and pastoring? This is not a fundamental of the Christian faith. Can you poi...

@MrRoyMcAvoy @kelcy_lowry @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ Are you suggesting I’m a false convert because I demonstrate a scriptural basis for godly women teaching true doctrine and pastoring? This is not

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-30

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl Not having women as elders and counsellors is very unwise, though I understand it is done for theological reasons. However, they still serve in many ways. Using the gifts God gives them for wisdom, counsel and lea...

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl Not having women as elders and counsellors is very unwise, though I understand it is done for theological reasons. However, they still serve in many ways. Using th

@MrRoyMcAvoy @kelcy_lowry @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ Are you suggesting I’m a false convert because I demonstrate a scriptural basis for godly women teaching true doctrine and pastoring? This is not a fundamental of the Christian faith. Can you poi...

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl Not having women as elders and counsellors is very unwise, though I understand it is done for theological reasons. However, they still serve in many ways. Using the gifts God gives them for wisdom, counsel and lea...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT I think if I was a pastor I would wonder what

@Omniisnotbussin @MarkGrote Do you have a Jewish male pastor, or are Gentiles allowed? By the same reasoning, women also are not excluded. Regarding 1 Tim 2:12, Paul left Timothy behind in Ephesus to stop false teaching not to stop females from t...

@MarkGrote Education plays a part as elders need to be able to teach and to correct those who contradict the Word, but none of the 12 disciples were educated. What was important was that they spent time with Jesus and were discipled. What changed i...

@kelcy_lowry @JeremyMBauman @MarkGrote @hamillaaron @MikeWingerii My parents are not the pastors nor do they attend my church. It was part of the Reformed Church of America denomination but is in process of leaving because the denomination doesn’t a...

@DothanDave @MarkGrote True enough. It does appear that the sometimes arbitrary

@DeeGoingsGirl @pauldirks @KaeleyT Yes, and your willingness to do what you believe is right is commendable. For the record, as an egalitarian I don’t believe in forcing oneself into positions just because you believe you have the right to. Even as...

@JeremyMBauman @MarkGrote @kelcy_lowry @hamillaaron @MikeWingerii Unfortunately he didn’t steelman the view that there was a particular deceived woman in Ephesus teaching false doctrine whose husband (likely an elder or respected person) was being si...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Well, I didn't say it should be done without telling the elders, but that the elders are not the church. It would be probably wise to tell the elders first. However, my prior church added the elders as the third a...

@DeeGoingsGirl @pauldirks @KaeleyT Matt 18:15-20 and church discipline doesn’t even say “if he refuses to listen to the 1 or 2 (additional) witnesses, then take it to the elders”—no, it says “take it to the church” and that doesn’t mean to the “staff...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, but the elders were not called to get him

@DrFrankTurek @MikeWingerii @MikeWinger It appears that Frank thinks only the lead pastor role is not available to women. But there is no lead or chief pastor prescribed in scripture except Christ himself. Overseers who have a lot of experience sho...

@JonnyRoot_ So a godly woman teaching true doctrine and pastoring in the truth i

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Yes, everyone who is able bodied should do something to contribute, though clearly there are obvious cases where this doesn't apply. But are you saying that if there is something she isn't keeping up with, your opt...

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Heb 5:12 says “In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!” If they could all be teachers, what’...

@dougponder @CovenantReform2 Where is the term “role” ever mentioned? And where

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, P

@dougponder I agree with you that pastor and elder/overseer should not be distin

@dougponder Elders are not meant to “rule” because they are not kings over the c

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John

@dougponder Isn’t it normal to use the male gender of words if either female or

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women just as men should shepherd younger men. The latte...

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@ZacharyGarris But an unrepentant, willful lifestyle of sin means you are outside of the faith. Again, where—and you must provide this—is a woman speaking, teaching, leading, overseeing, pastoring EVER stated to be a sin or listed in any list of sin...

@ZacharyGarris Let me know what creed says that women cannot occupy positions of leadership or serve as a pastor or preach or teach truth. Next, you can take a look at any list of sin in scripture and you won’t find women speaking, teaching, leading...

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Where is gender role in the text? If its ordained by God, role should be there as that's what everyone thinks is so important. Primacy means that it's the males that must do all the leading, preaching, judging doctrine, overs...

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women *necessarily.* I have been part of several complementarian churches and they typically just reserved the lead pastoral role for a...

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Let's test this theory out, shall we?

@GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle Hi Glenn! I’m looking forward to the day we can meet. It’s always enriching to connect with fellow pastors in our area. Your comment about the failures of various prominent pastors caught my attention. While these insta...

@skafoure @Brian_Sauve I answered this one to a pastor friend of mine earlier.

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but source. The only place authority between the husban...

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I disagreed with him on Calvinism, I would not be allo...

@MaryThurma27729 @RushiXmakima You are correct that they are synonymous in scripture. They are used interchangeably. While one may oversee multiple churches, overseeing one church or multiple churches is still performing the same function but on a ...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Of course I have a pastor, it's not Winger but I do appreciate much of his work. There are female elders in my church (as you might expect). We are leaving the Reformed Church of Am...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Was Paul hims

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastors, but they weren’t the mainstream. Luther disagr...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I already explained that I just find it ironic that if the position of elder must be male that the word itself is feminine. I didn't say that elders must be women. You are deceptive in how you are framing what I said and ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam We don't interpret scripture by history, but by the text. - No-one is specifically identified as a pastor in the New Testament except Jesus. - Only two identify as elders (Peter and John), and they self identify. - No one i...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Right, but isn't it just funny that people are saying that being an elder must be male but the word itself is feminine? Don't you see the irony? Hey, I replied to a number of other things you stated. I hope you take the ...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m not saying it has to be a female, but you are saying it has to be a male and it is sin if it’s a female. All this with no male pronouns. I’m just showing what is kinda funny…that overseer is feminine. I don’t nee...

RT @ryanschatz: @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Oh, and just to make your head spin..

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Oh, and just to make your head spin... overseer in 1

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam 1 Tim 2:11 doesn't say women cannot be pastors. Titus 1 uses generic pronouns like τις (tis⎯anyone, someone), same for 1 Tim 3. Headship has nothing to do with authority but source relationships. You have been thoroughly...

@ZacharyGarris @JohnnyABenson I am an egalitarian. I believe in mutual submission one to another in the body of Christ (which means wives to husbands and husbands to wives, congregants to pastors and pastors to congregants). Women are not restricte...

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the faith with a clear conscience, etc)⎯it also doesn't ...

@ymmotrojam Ok, but you are literally making this up. The church is the people...whoever can make it...whether they knew about a formal invite or not. So every woman is going to come and say "Hey, pastor, was there a formal invite that went out? I...

@RushiXmakima Thanks for contributing! I agree that at least the way we view pastors today goes beyond what they were in the first churches. Today we seem to desire a charismatic leader, someone who will just tell us what to do, rather than someone...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Balance does not equate to only males speaking. Many churches today only have the pastor and maybe one other person speaking, so what you are saying to restrict women from speaking from the front doesn't make much differen...

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explicitly identified as elders (Peter and John) - No one...

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@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women necessarily. I have been part of several complementarian churches and they typically just reserved the lead pastoral role for a...