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@EarthyLilly It’s not just that only women are the helpers! I often open stuck

@EarthyLilly It’s not just that only women are the helpers! I often open stuck jars and lift heavy things from high places for my wife. We use the gifts that God gives each of us to support and upli

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@kelcy_lowry @MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ The idea that godly women are not prevented from teaching true doctrine or caring for God’s people is what all the cults believe ?? According to 1 Tim 4:1-5, it seems that Paul says that *forbid...

@kelcy_lowry @MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ The idea that godly women are *not* prevented from teaching true doctrine or caring for God’s people is what all the cults believe ?? According to

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@MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ Well, Paul's Greek leads me to my conclusions. He chooses not to use male pronouns but rather τις which means "anyone" or "someone." Further, he doesn't exclude women but says "women likewise..." Forbidding ...

@MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ Well, Paul's Greek leads me to my conclusions. He chooses not to use male pronouns but rather τις which means "anyone" or "someone." Further, he doesn't exclu

@EarthyLilly It’s not just that only women are the helpers! I often open stuck

@kelcy_lowry @MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ The idea that godly women are *not* prevented from teaching true doctrine or caring for God’s people is what all the cults believe ?? According to 1 Tim 4:1-5, it seems that Paul says that *forbid...

@MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ Well, Paul's Greek leads me to my conclusions. He chooses not to use male pronouns but rather τις which means "anyone" or "someone." Further, he doesn't exclude women but says "women likewise..." Forbidding ...

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl Not having women as elders and counsellors is very unwise, though I understand it is done for theological reasons. However, they still serve in many ways. Using the gifts God gives them for wisdom, counsel and lea...

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl I’m really pleased when I see healthy complementarian churches that let women speak on Sunday mornings and value the gifts and leadership and sacrifice women bring to the church family. If male authority can be rel...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT 👉 ”[there needs to be recourse] especially for women” 👈 This is the reason for the discussion! Why especially for women? Why does a wife need to have multiple men intimidate her by breathing down her neck to get ...

@bibleradioapp @BenZeisloft Which is why it can sometimes appear like only one g

@TheChileabSon @MalcangiSarah It’s the idea that you say it’s Biblically required that’s concerning. It’s as if you think that my wife is sinning or doing something wrong if she also manages the home, why does 1 Tim 5:14 say women manage the househo...

@Omniisnotbussin @MarkGrote Do you have a Jewish male pastor, or are Gentiles allowed? By the same reasoning, women also are not excluded. Regarding 1 Tim 2:12, Paul left Timothy behind in Ephesus to stop false teaching not to stop females from t...

@MikeWingerii @j_bambrick Mike also ends his 11.5 hour discussion talking about authority. This is likely the entire basis which founds his understanding of complementarian practice—that males have a special authority over women that they cannot hav...

@ymmotrojam Tom, your comment makes men seem very weak. If “good men” struggle

@lynette_f815 @MarkGrote The only point I’d contest was your broad statement that “women were uneducated.” I’m not sure how you arrived at this. Priscilla, although she wasn’t from Ephesus, is an example of a very educated woman. Since Paul uses t...

@KurodaSenpai @smashbaals Smash said "it is unbiblical" meaning if you do it you are going against the Bible. Rather he should have said, there is no Biblical restriction on women joining the military, though it would seem preferable that men should...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Ok, I understand what you are trying to say. We don't follow the example of generals and the military because this doesn't necessarily reflect scripture. We are not fighting a physical war which requires physical strength, b...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC My wife previously did not want the responsibility to lead. When I showed her that she needed to accept her own responsibility and that it wasn't a sin to lead, she grew into this and matured as a person. Treating women as e...

@sympatheticNPC @DST_QA One more comment⎯Yes, Paul directs men to love their wives as Jesus loves His church, but do you think that women are not also to love as Jesus loves? Just because that is not stated doesn't mean it is not implied. Perhaps t...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC “Women and children have wilfull submission” All submission is to be willful. Did you forget that men need to submit to all in the body too? If so, then submission has nothing to do with authority otherwise mutual submissio...

@BibleBashed Women are not looking to avoid doing things for others, they just want to be allowed to serve in the capacity of their gifting and desire. Housework can be shared or taken by either the husband or the wife or ideally the whole family. ...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl This line of reasoning is interesting to me because on your accounting, the husband represents Jesus (who is God) and the church represents redeemed but sinful humans. This is a setup for serious abuse as all men a...

@InnovationHQ2 @punkrockproseco @ADRoblesMedia A heretic is someone who teaches contrary to the essentials of the faith. A heretic is not someone you disagree with on a non essential, but is a non Christian. Please tell me⎯what council or creed ass...

@kelcy_lowry @JeremyMBauman @hamillaaron @MarkGrote You are free to share your opinions without substantiating them if you choose, but the fact that we disagree is already on the table. Also, treating women as equal in that those of godly character ...

@DrFrankTurek @MikeWingerii @MikeWinger It appears that Frank thinks only the lead pastor role is not available to women. But there is no lead or chief pastor prescribed in scripture except Christ himself. Overseers who have a lot of experience sho...

@DrFrankTurek @MikeWingerii @MikeWinger “Women, if they say that they can’t submit to the proper leadership of a man, are saying they can’t follow their saviour”⎯Frank Turek. Leadership simply means one who leads the way (by example) in following Ch...

@BibleBashed @sympatheticNPC Yea, God uses pejoratives too. Question: can men a

@BibleBashed @sympatheticNPC Women in that time were not usually the ones who trained for war, men did. So to "be like women" is simply a pejorative stereotype showing how these Egyptian men will cower before the Lord. BTW, if men can act like wome...

@The_Wry_Griot @BibleBashed I appreciate you admitting the obvious, though you still have your head in the patriarchy sand. Do I need to provide examples that women are not just courageously sweeping up spiders? 1. Irena Sendler - A Polish nurse an...

@BibleBashed @NoCapybara116 There you go! You've seen a few courageous women in

RT @ryanschatz: @BibleBashed Wait...women are unable to be courageous??? 😮 You

@BibleBashed Wait...women are unable to be courageous??? 😮 You might be thinking of “Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.” (1 Corinthians 16:13, NASB 2020) However, this is in the plural and Paul is writing to the chur...

@AverageSc0t @TheologySteve @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio I think this is hard for a man with authority over women to understand. Or perhaps functionally you act in a very egalitarian way 98% of the time and only pull your trump card to expedite dec...

@NathanFinochio @MikeWingerii I think it’s a mischaracterization to say complementarians hate women. They see them as equals but treat them as having a subservient role to males at least while on this earth and believe that this is the Biblical mode...

@woodsywomxn The woman is both the glory of God and the glory of man. Paul’s comment about women submitting to their husbands does not negate the instruction that all are to submit to one another in Eph 5:21 in the fear of Christ—that includes husba...

@MarkGrote What type of speech? Women are assumed to be praying and prophesying in 1 Cor 11:5. Paul’s concern was not about silencing one gender but about the orderly use of the gifts for the benefit all: 1 Corinthians 14:31 (NASB 2020): “For you ...

@Forms_Respecter While I’m egalitarian, I didn’t get there because of all the things egalitarian scholars say. Sometimes they are guessing because they see women being used in the Bible in significant capacities and so they know that Paul can’t mean...

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, P

@dougponder The driving force behind egalitarianism is not the culture but “for

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women just as men should shepherd younger men. The latte...

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris This passage is such a strong corrective of the complementarian position because if women are also sons then why do they treat them as though they are not going to rule and reign with Christ one day? Are they ...

@ronhenzel The pre-Luther Waldensiens understood that women could be leaders, so this isn’t new. The problem is that this is a secondary issue, and so one church operating with male only leadership should be able to remain in fellowship with another...

@ZacharyGarris This verse is a very strong correction to Patriarchalists and complementarians because all of us—men and women—are considered sons. The 2020 version is trying to point out that these sons include males and females (the NASB still show...

@ZacharyGarris Let me know what creed says that women cannot occupy positions of leadership or serve as a pastor or preach or teach truth. Next, you can take a look at any list of sin in scripture and you won’t find women speaking, teaching, leading...

@IIIIIJOSHIIIII Where does the Bible speak of gender roles? Men and women bring

By banning women…even from administering communion, churches have no choice but to leave these denominations. It is these denominations that are causing division. Jesus cares about the unity of His body and causing division over these matters is no...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'authentein' a man/husband"⎯what this is referring to ...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff Paul is dealing with false teaching and its affects on the Ephesian church. Men were using anger in their prayers probably complaining about false teaching, women were using outward adornments to show which one was holy and sh...

@oddlyadding @BrassVon @pauldirks @KaeleyT I think he meant property, as in for women who were their property. He disagrees — I think he is saying that men fight to defend the woman they love perhaps proving that it’s not about treating them as prop...

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women *necessarily.* I have been part of several complementarian churches and they typically just reserved the lead pastoral role for a...

@smashbaals Men can literally: - Engage in unprotected sex, often avoiding its consequences - Consume porn, fueling the objectification of women - Claim authority over women, yet shirk responsibility for societal outcomes And when called to the car...

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@kelcy_lowry @MrRoyMcAvoy @The_Wry_Griot @JonnyRoot_ The idea that godly women are not prevented from teaching true doctrine or caring for God’s people is what all the cults believe ?? According to 1 Tim 4:1-5, it seems that Paul says that *forbid...

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women necessarily. I have been part of several complementarian churches and they typically just reserved the lead pastoral role for a...