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Scripture Commentary article 2006-09-23

Another Complementarian Pastor Responds

I am preparing a talk on women in ministry partly based on questions and challenges presented to me by a complementarian Pastor from a large denomination which restricts women from teaching the bible to men. Here are excerpts that he gave regarding our DVD teaching series on Women in Ministry:

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism

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@fab1usger @Crystalisives @TabeStorm @MikeWingerii You said Genesis, not the garden of Eden. And yes, no animals were being killed before the fall, so ruling them didn't mean killing them in the original creation. What in your view does it mean to r...

@fab1usger @Crystalisives @TabeStorm @MikeWingerii You said Genesis, not the garden of Eden. And yes, no animals were being killed before the fall, so ruling them didn't mean killing them in the origi

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@lynne_catmom @Truth_matters20 In general, most protestant denominations (who are not 1 inch away from the RCC) teach scripture alone and don’t add tradition as authoritative. That they still fall into the trap of adding things at times happens but a...

@lynne_catmom @Truth_matters20 In general, most protestant denominations (who are not 1 inch away from the RCC) teach scripture alone and don’t add tradition as authoritative. That they still fall int

Another Complementarian Pastor Responds

@fab1usger @Crystalisives @TabeStorm @MikeWingerii You said Genesis, not the garden of Eden. And yes, no animals were being killed before the fall, so ruling them didn't mean killing them in the original creation. What in your view does it mean to r...

@lynne_catmom @Truth_matters20 In general, most protestant denominations (who are not 1 inch away from the RCC) teach scripture alone and don’t add tradition as authoritative. That they still fall into the trap of adding things at times happens but a...

@ThePolemikOne That’s the appeal to authority fallacy. Rather, one should consid

@JohnRayKite @TheLaurenChen Finding an interpretation that makes sense of all the details in the context, the grammar and the rest of scripture is not looking for loopholes. I prefer the scripture over man’s infallible interpretation. If you want to...

@JohnRayKite @TheLaurenChen Hm. So the Jews were first. Even Paul says “to the Jew first, then the Gentile.” Does that mean only Jews can be leaders? As for the fall, there is certainly something there to be explored. Paul says that Adam wasn’t dece...

@pacoleman9020 I know, we need to correct them because they are falling into the

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Westfall seems to see the issue here being that the woman is forcefully taking over leadership; my view is that this is not about 'usurping authority' or anything of that sort, simply that those who kno...

@TruthBToldNow1 I appreciate you engaging and sharing where you disagree. I have no problem with you disagreeing! Why doesn’t Paul use Eve’s name? Why does Paul use “the woman”? You suggest that Paul is simply referring to what she was called pre-f...

@tom_huguenard Just reminds me of when John Wick killed two men with a pencil an

@robotcop1984 @sola_chad It’s a real wonder to me why complementarians dont stru

@Anglokinist @ClarkeMicah Wow. So if they are wrong on those passages, the whole house of cards of their authority falls over, huh? To the men that think women should be silent in the church, Paul says, “What? came the word of God out from you [men]...

@carol66944 @OrinRomine I believe that in the context Paul was reaching for an o

@carol66944 @5pur5y I don’t understand how you connect scripture like that. That Adam would rule was spoken to Eve and wasn’t an imperative and was a consequence of the fall. That God rules is a given. His humbling Himself to take on flesh and subje...

@carol66944 @5pur5y I appreciate your desire to see redemptive threads throughout Scripture, but I think your symbolic reading of Gen 3:16 stretches the text beyond what it actually says. Gen 3:16 is part of the consequences spoken to the woman afte...

@BronWen727104 @EricisAmerican @Protestia Yes, true enough. She did seem to be p

@Ashwin_Vengayil @EricisAmerican @Protestia Well, I may be tainted by the Benny Hinn style of knocking people over, people falling back and laughing hysterically. I am glad you shared that experience from Roger Olsen. You are right, just because it i...

@Ashwin_Vengayil @EricisAmerican @Protestia What you stated there seems fine, but the idea of being "slain in the spirit" where people lay hands on others and they fall back is not something we see anywhere in scripture. The only instance of falling ...

@edlars53 @BeardedPresby @ronhenzel Where does the Bible say that God Willed 1/3

@CoreyJMahler An egalitarian view of M &amp; F does not deny creation. It emphasizes Gen 1:28 where God commands both to rule not the prophecy God made *to Eve* after the fall that Adam would rule over her. Again, fair that you disagree, but I’m not ...

@NateSchlomann Please tell me: what is the measuring standard? Is it sola script

@MarqueStuddock @smashbaals First, that men are physically stronger man mean they are more suited to plowing fields, but what does that have to do with teaching? Women cannot teach others? Second, the fall happened because Eve was deceived and Adam ...

@JamesPelton18 @Calebclind231 @autocorrect2_0 “History” is not an infallible int

@Tako1Fall A woman of godly character who is able to teach and teaches the truth

@Tako1Fall Wait, how is obeying Mt 28:18-20 good but then if you teach truth and

@LordFerguson09 @Dankrightanon If Paul isn’t using head (Kephale) to denote auth

@LordFerguson09 @Dankrightanon The thread was about Kephale and your question wa

@LordFerguson09 @Dankrightanon A concordance is a fallible tool. The definitive source is the Bible and its context. The word kephale means head. It's used all over, so there's no debate on this. What that means in context is the question. And every ...

@TheAwokeSlayer @rightresponsem Then, in Gen 3:16, after the Fall, God says to E

@KennyBurchard All that proves is that you have fallible humans who are not read

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi No, it’s not a pernicious fallacy. You said “there’s absolutely no remotely legitimate way” when there *is* a legitimate way since you have “she will be saved” all the way back to “a woman” in 2:12⎯ it seems...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi Ron, I think this is just confusing. The best way to make everything fit together is to understand a specific woman teaching heresy and Paul linking the situation between this woman and her husband to the f...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi I don’t think you can just label Paul’s switching from pl to sg and then sg back to pl as stylistic—though I agree that you have to say this or your view falls apart. But that would mean Paul is not being i...

@thisardentlife @nraleighsr @cgt1486 @CapturingChrist The Holy Spirit’s illumina

@Balduc13679 2Ti 3:16 says that all scripture (not excluding any) is sufficient

@DavidGalle94823 @HagemanJack @smashbaals The church fathers are the apostles. No one after them should 'trump' Jesus' apostles as recorded in scripture. Tradition has a way of doing that as unless you verify that it is in full agreement with scriptu...

@EManFleming Yes, I’m serious. Gen 1-2 is God’s design. Gen 3 is the fall and its consequences. Gen 3:16-19 has no imperatives, and the man and woman are not cursed. God prophesies that the husband will rule over his wife. If this was ideal, wouldn’t...

@Rick07200430 @wichman_matthew @CherylSchatz @autocorrect2_0 This passage from Hebrews clarifies that one can be enlightened, taste the heavenly gift of salvation and become partakers of the Holy Spirit and still fall away and yes, lose what they exp...

@Rick07200430 @wichman_matthew @CherylSchatz @autocorrect2_0 So are you saying there is no such thing as falling away from the faith? Or are you just saying that anyone who falls away or sins unrepentantly was never truly a believer? If the latter, w...

@Rick07200430 @wichman_matthew @CherylSchatz @autocorrect2_0 Ok, this is better. So you admit that you still sin? I still fail daily and I’m working on improving where I’m falling short. This is part of sanctification (not salvation). Yes, Jesus cove...

In p5, Ashley explains 2Th 2: the falling away (rebellion), the restrainer (Holy Spirit in the church), and the Antichrist. Paul reassures believers Christ’s return follows the Antichrist declaring himself God in the temple. In the pre-trib rapture, ...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Who said male headship stems from the fall? Head doesn’t automatically mean ruler or the one in authority in scripture. If that’s what was meant, what’s wrong with using the word authority? The only time authority is us...

@JacobPaul432 @MikeWingerii In Is 53:4-6, we see that Jesus actually bore our sin. Yet **WE esteemed Him** sticken, smitten of God and afflicted.” Calvinists say that Jesus WAS smitten by God. But instead of this, God has “caused the iniquity of us a...

@PatrickHen1776 @harmonizedgrace We are equal partners like Adam and Eve were be

@x9ishere @greg_hahn How do you know it’s my fallen nature? I believe in Jesus.

@Tailfeathers_WA @Antifaucist722 @dalepartridge Ge 3:16 is not imperative or a command but a prophecy of the fall’s result. Eve was deceived, Adam stayed silent, and ate the fruit she gave. He would hold a grudge and mistreat her by ruling over her. ...

@Antifaucist722 @dalepartridge Society does not fall apart when women lead well

In 1Ti 2:11-15, Paul is dealing with a specific woman who is teaching false doct

@carol66944 @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz That is correct. It is not an explicit statement. However, the scripture isn’t pablum, but rather meat and we are supposed to chew on it and draw reasonable conclusions from the text. This is a reasonable conc...

@TheVaxScene @ManiCompreshun2 @MikeWingerii Wait, the Hebrew scripture on the account about creation and the fall in Eden is a lie created to deceive? Then why does Jesus, Paul and Jude all refer to it? (Mt 19:4-6; Mk 10:6-9; 1Co 15:22,45-49; 2Co 1...

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@CoreyJMahler An egalitarian view of M & F does not deny creation. It emphasizes Gen 1:28 where God commands both to rule not the prophecy God made to Eve after the fall that Adam would rule over her. Again, fair that you disagree, but I’m not ...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi No, it’s not a pernicious fallacy. You said “there’s absolutely no remotely legitimate way” when there is a legitimate way since you have “she will be saved” all the way back to “a woman” in 2:12⎯ it seems...

@JacobPaul432 @MikeWingerii In Is 53:4-6, we see that Jesus actually bore our sin. Yet WE esteemed Him sticken, smitten of God and afflicted.” Calvinists say that Jesus WAS smitten by God. But instead of this, God has “caused the iniquity of us a...