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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-17

@Flyoverland22 1Co 14:34-35, 1Co 11:1-16, 1Ti 2:11-15,3:1-13, etc all have reasonable explanations showing how these are not forbidding women or enforcing gender hierarchy or gender roles in church leadership. This is certainly not an issue where one...

@Flyoverland22 1Co 14:34-35, 1Co 11:1-16, 1Ti 2:11-15,3:1-13, etc all have reasonable explanations showing how these are not forbidding women or enforcing gender hierarchy or gender roles in church le

1Co 11:1-16 1Co 14:34-35 1Ti 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-17

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies How do you know that Paul is speaking

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies How do you know that Paul is speaking of hierarchy of authority roles?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-17

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies If this was a chain of hierarchy, why

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies If this was a chain of hierarchy, why doesn't Paul start with God and end with the wife? God -> Christ -> Husband -> Wife Instead we see: Christ

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

Why is it becoming “Tier 1” (primary)? Because he believes it is an attack on t

Why is it becoming “Tier 1” (primary)? Because he believes it is an attack on the created order. But what is the created order? It is God creating Adam in time sequence before Eve. How does time s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-14

@BeardedAcctant @SDungersheim @RuthAmyAllan What created order? You mean the time sequence order of creation? We all agree to that. But there is no hierarchy required or authority implied by a time sequence. Adam had more responsibility because he w...

@BeardedAcctant @SDungersheim @RuthAmyAllan What created order? You mean the time sequence order of creation? We all agree to that. But there is no hierarchy required or authority implied by a time se

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-14

@pastherandie @B_Christs_Amb @MikeWingerii @JohnPiper @waynegrudem You aren’t wrong. The problem with these patriarchalists and complementarians is that they read head and headship and immediately translate to authority and hierarchy. They can’t see ...

@pastherandie @B_Christs_Amb @MikeWingerii @JohnPiper @waynegrudem You aren’t wrong. The problem with these patriarchalists and complementarians is that they read head and headship and immediately tra

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@landjax @Charb_izard The question was about who will be greatest in heaven and then Jesus gathered the 12 to explain that the greatest is the one who is the slave of all. This is about the idea of hierarchy and who has authority and how it is exerci...

@landjax @Charb_izard The question was about who will be greatest in heaven and then Jesus gathered the 12 to explain that the greatest is the one who is the slave of all. This is about the idea of hi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@DBryanRhodes @ronhenzel @Gates_of_Derry @CalebDixonSmith Paul is using that term in a specific way to refer to His being the source or origin of the church which is His body. This isn’t about authority or hierarchy so the English word isn’t the best...

@DBryanRhodes @ronhenzel @Gates_of_Derry @CalebDixonSmith Paul is using that term in a specific way to refer to His being the source or origin of the church which is His body. This isn’t about authori

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-10

@riemersonck @VCITW There was no such hierarchy at creation. Creating the man first does not confer authority over. Authority must be given as John the Baptist declares. When was Adam given authority over Eve? "John answered, 'A person cannot receiv...

@riemersonck @VCITW There was no such hierarchy at creation. Creating the man first does not confer authority over. Authority must be given as John the Baptist declares. When was Adam given authority

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-10

@BigYehudah @riemersonck I’m not quoting and agreeing with everything they belie

@BigYehudah @riemersonck I’m not quoting and agreeing with everything they believe silly. God didn’t implement a hierarchy of authority between male and female. https://t.co/IORdUu0T3w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX But you are taking order to mean hierarchy when Paul simply was referrin

@3GNRTX But you are taking order to mean hierarchy when Paul simply was referring to the sequential time sequence of creation and that this is why one wasn’t deceived but the other was.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX Where was a hierarchy of authority of the man over the woman established

@3GNRTX Where was a hierarchy of authority of the man over the woman established before the temptation? The claim is that God’s prophecy to Eve that Adam would rule over her is a result of the fall (

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve It’s very plain? Y

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve It’s very plain? Yea, Gen 1:28, 1Co 6:2-3 and Rev 3:21 are very plain. Women are to rule as well. What hierarchy? When you help carry th

Rev 3:21 1Co 6:2-3 Gen 1:28 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@kdclaunch Paul has no concept of “gender roles” with respect to authority or hi

@kdclaunch Paul has no concept of “gender roles” with respect to authority or hierarchy.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@LogicSaysBurn Both single and married progeny should continue to honor their pa

@LogicSaysBurn Both single and married progeny should continue to honor their parents. Honouring doesn’t mean subordinate or obedient to (in the same way as in their childhood). This is nothing to do

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@coramdeo1 Comps are speculating that creation order is about hierarchy and authority. What evidence is there that authority structures are present between the man and the woman in Gen 2-3? You claim that the serpent violates the order by approachi...

@coramdeo1 Comps are speculating that creation order is about hierarchy and authority. What evidence is there that authority structures are present between the man and the woman in Gen 2-3? You clai

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

Here he intentionally misconstrues Satan’s temptation as violating gender hierar

Here he intentionally misconstrues Satan’s temptation as violating gender hierarchy rather than Satan taking advantage of Eve’s lack of experience of God. In conclusion, Kyle has not presented any ev

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

Kyle forgets that this is a personal letter to Timothy, not a general letter to the church. Paul states expressly that his intent was to leave Timothy behind to stop some from teaching false doctrines. Paul’s intent was not to setup some sort of gend...

Kyle forgets that this is a personal letter to Timothy, not a general letter to the church. Paul states expressly that his intent was to leave Timothy behind to stop some from teaching false doctrines

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

The serpent approaches the woman as she can be deceived. There is no evidence that anyone present is aware of any gender-based hierarchy. The serpent doesn’t say anything about being liberated from Adam’s authority. Adam is also right beside Eve li...

The serpent approaches the woman as she can be deceived. There is no evidence that anyone present is aware of any gender-based hierarchy. The serpent doesn’t say anything about being liberated from A

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

While it is true that mankind was given authority over the rest of creation, the woman was uniquely created from Adam’s flesh and bone whereas the other animals were individually created from the dust. This shows there is no hierarchy between the ma...

While it is true that mankind was given authority over the rest of creation, the woman was uniquely created from Adam’s flesh and bone whereas the other animals were individually created from the dust

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

The second mistake is missing that Paul is referring to the time sequence of creation not gender hierarchy. Since Adam was created first and observed God creating he was prepared for the temptation of the serpent and could not be deceived. Eve was c...

The second mistake is missing that Paul is referring to the time sequence of creation not gender hierarchy. Since Adam was created first and observed God creating he was prepared for the temptation o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-22

@RobertANacci @DefendTheSheep Because Biblical submission is mutual. Those who w

@RobertANacci @DefendTheSheep Because Biblical submission is mutual. Those who want to be the greatest should be the slave of all. There should not be anything of a master slave hierarchy in the churc

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-22

@KillmanBuck @JoInAthensGa @Eric_Conn Wives are not told to be obedient to their husbands as though their husbands are the master and they are the slave. Where are you getting that from? While hierarchy is the way the world works, it is not how the c...

@KillmanBuck @JoInAthensGa @Eric_Conn Wives are not told to be obedient to their husbands as though their husbands are the master and they are the slave. Where are you getting that from? While hierarc

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-03

@industriousmom4 @InnovationHQ2 @elijahtmadison @SpecterAndBride @tigereyes1972 I think you are reading in our modern understanding of "headship" which means hierarchical authority. Adam was created in time sequence before Eve, but not in hierarchy. ...

@industriousmom4 @InnovationHQ2 @elijahtmadison @SpecterAndBride @tigereyes1972 I think you are reading in our modern understanding of "headship" which means hierarchical authority. Adam was created i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-29

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Wow, I’m glad you don’t think that hair length affects one’s eternity!! Yes, men and women are different. Complementary would be a word I might choose, but a group that thinks there is gender hierarchy co-opted t...

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Wow, I’m glad you don’t think that hair length affects one’s eternity!! Yes, men and women are different. Complementary would be a word I might choose, but a grou

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-26

@elumeze_felix @LttleOleMe0513 @DoulosDean68 Just as saying that the husband should love his wife doesn't mean that the wife should not love her husband or that the wife should respect her husband doesn't mean that the husband should disrespect his w...

@elumeze_felix @LttleOleMe0513 @DoulosDean68 Just as saying that the husband should love his wife doesn't mean that the wife should not love her husband or that the wife should respect her husband doe

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@DabDabChill Except this passage which is supposedly an authority hierarchy. And

@DabDabChill Except this passage which is supposedly an authority hierarchy. And that doesn’t tell you anything?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@ronhenzel @carol66944 There’s no slippery slope here as I’m merely rejecting a doctrine created by man. The idea of gender hierarchy of authority is not the teaching of the New Testament. Even in the OT, there was no sense that obeying a woman in a ...

@ronhenzel @carol66944 There’s no slippery slope here as I’m merely rejecting a doctrine created by man. The idea of gender hierarchy of authority is not the teaching of the New Testament. Even in the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@ronhenzel @carol66944 Paul is identifying two things: the time order of the cre

@ronhenzel @carol66944 Paul is identifying two things: the time order of the creation of Adam and Eve and that this was why Adam wasn’t deceived but Eve was. Whatever teaching you are inferring about

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-31

@B_Christs_Amb Yes, our inheritance which includes ruling and reigning with Christ on His throne (Rev 3:21), judging the nations and even judging angels (1Co 6:2-3; Rev 2:26-28). There is no gender-role hierarchy of authority of husband over wife. Y...

@B_Christs_Amb Yes, our inheritance which includes ruling and reigning with Christ on His throne (Rev 3:21), judging the nations and even judging angels (1Co 6:2-3; Rev 2:26-28). There is no gender-r

1Co 6:2-3 Rev 2:26-28 Rev 3:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals There is an authority to serve the body by teaching, but it is not a hierarchy of authority over the body, but an authority of service. The elders are at the bottom⎯serving and pouring out th...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals There is an authority to serve the body by teaching, but it is not a hierarchy of authority over the body, but an authority of service. The e

Matt 18:15-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-16

@amoree @MikeWingerii No, that would be very unwise of me. Of course I have much

@amoree @MikeWingerii No, that would be very unwise of me. Of course I have much Biblically faithful reasons why I disagree with his view that God ordains Gender-based authority hierarchy. You can sta

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-16

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii It’s not about whether you can make it work but about what the Bible teaches. There is absolutely no hint of a hierarchy of authority in Gen 1-2 between the man and the woman. No one in the text appears to...

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii It’s not about whether you can make it work but about what the Bible teaches. There is absolutely no hint of a hierarchy of authority in Gen 1-2 between th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-16

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Adam didn’t name Eve, he recognized what God had created: Adam=Ish, Eve=Isha. Unless you believe she had two names and every woman had the same name as her? There is no hierarchy within God. That is a very...

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Adam didn’t name Eve, he recognized what God had created: Adam=Ish, Eve=Isha. Unless you believe she had two names and every woman had the same name as her?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@avyargo @MikeWingerii It’s not about not liking it. You are misreading these passages thinking they prohibit godly women who are gifted by God from fulfilling His calling for them. To restrict them is quenching the Holy Spirit. God does not implemen...

@avyargo @MikeWingerii It’s not about not liking it. You are misreading these passages thinking they prohibit godly women who are gifted by God from fulfilling His calling for them. To restrict them i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Ok, now I'm curious. I'd really like to understand your position. So only men can be pastors and leaders, so their is a hierarchy between leaders and congregants, right? Then only leaders can exer...

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Ok, now I'm curious. I'd really like to understand your position. So only men can be pastors and leaders, so their is a hierarchy between leaders a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-12

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Order means ti

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Order means time sequence not hierarchy of authority. I mean animals were made before Adam and they don’t rule him. The Jews were firs

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence has to do with one being deceived and another not. ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence ha

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the complementarian view that God has ordained a gend...

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-10

@Crystalisives @MikeWingerii @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @jdpritchett Mike sees the creation order as in hierarchy order rather than time-sequence order. This is where he go...

@Crystalisives @MikeWingerii @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @jdpritchett Mike sees the creation order as in hierarchy order ra

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

"For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who wa

"For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived…” (1Ti 2:13-14a). This is all about the time order of creation, not authority and hierarchy. Adam being cre

1Ti 2:13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@Ichthusproject @JollyStine @will_servant @pastherandie @Crystalisives @CherylSc

@Ichthusproject @JollyStine @will_servant @pastherandie @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Are you referring to gender hierarchy and authority structures? If so, I agree!

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-04

@MikeWingerii In that case, you’ll want to review your views on restriction of w

@MikeWingerii In that case, you’ll want to review your views on restriction of women in leadership, whether there really is any hierarchy of authority between husband and wife and in the church. To be

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

@mvpompa First, he said it was a secondary issue. You only repent of sins. If I

@mvpompa First, he said it was a secondary issue. You only repent of sins. If I sincerely hold to a conviction based on scripture that the Bible doesn’t restrict women and that there is no hierarchy o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Egalitarians are appealing to scripture. The only thing that they are throwing u

Egalitarians are appealing to scripture. The only thing that they are throwing under the bus is the idea that the Bible teaches there is authority hierarchy between male and female. And that is on scr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@LutheranLifter Crystal clear there’s a hierarchy? Not sure what you’re smoking but it’s clouding your vision. Paul says "For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man"⎯Paul is giving the reason why a married woman has two "heads" or sou...

@LutheranLifter Crystal clear there’s a hierarchy? Not sure what you’re smoking but it’s clouding your vision. Paul says "For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man"⎯Paul is giving the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@SpecterAndBride I've read them, but if you have one in particular we can go through it. If you get Genesis wrong, it taints your view of all these passages. Instead of viewing them as source relationships, you see everything in terms of authority an...

@SpecterAndBride I've read them, but if you have one in particular we can go through it. If you get Genesis wrong, it taints your view of all these passages. Instead of viewing them as source relation

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-24

@GodistheGoal @FlammablePink @GeauxGabrielle @myteacherafreak @MissBNasty 1Co 11

@GodistheGoal @FlammablePink @GeauxGabrielle @myteacherafreak @MissBNasty 1Co 11:1-16 is explaining the reasons for the tradition to NOT wear head coverings which represent shame for sin. 1Co 11:3 is

1Co 11:1-16 1Co 11:3 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@AsherJacob23060 @ronhenzel Except that relational hierarchy was not Paul’s stat

@AsherJacob23060 @ronhenzel Except that relational hierarchy was not Paul’s stated purpose of the letter nor does putting all women under the control of their husbands curtail false teaching unless th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@baste_goblin That’s correct. God does not create gender hierarchy of authority

@baste_goblin That’s correct. God does not create gender hierarchy of authority in the garden.

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