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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-22

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @nakedpastor I am not skipping scripture. I am taking ev

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @nakedpastor I am not skipping scripture. I am taking every word, its grammar, the context, the purpose of the letter, the surrounding commands—everything into consideration.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-22

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Word of God. But Paul is quoti

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Word of God. But Paul is quoting from the Corinthian letter to Paul in this passage. What Paul is doing in refuting them from silencing women is the

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @nakedpastor I am not skipping scripture. I am taking ev

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Word of God. But Paul is quoti

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor The same statement is made for overseers. Paul was most definitely an apostle and an overseer. He wrote letters, appointed elders, dealt with problems, traveled from church to church preaching and te...

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Paul here is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians—go back to 1 Cor 7:1 to see where he starts this. There’s no quotes in the original manuscripts so you have to infer quotes from the context. ...

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor But not all women teach false doctrine and there are men who also teach false doctrine. We cannot generalize something that Paul doesn’t generalize. He left Timothy in Ephesus to stop false teachers ...

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor The reason here is because there is a woman who is deceived who is teaching false doctrine and committing spiritual murder over her husband who is not deceived by is silent. Paul uses Adam an Eve as p...

@AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Paul wasn’t advocating for a hierarchy of authority. He was talking about Jesus being the source or origin of His church and Adam being the source or origin of Eve thus giving the grounding for marria...

@AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor This isn’t about whether you like a male over a female teacher. You likely would see the problem with “I prefer a white male over a black male preacher” or “I prefer a wealthy person over a poor perso...

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Here’s a short summary of what

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor If this means a deacon must be

@DanielvsBabylon @AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor That snip says that the word is also used for deacon/deaconess which is an office. It is also used of Jesus and Paul calls himself a servant. All Christians are servants also. So th...

@BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor I have been working on some reasons why the apostles selected only men for this role in the early church. Here are some of my thoughts at this point. Reasons Why They Likely Chose Only Men: 1. *Cultural Norms:* The norms ...

@nakedpastor Jesus had reasons for the 12 being male but it is true that many women also were of his disciples. And yhe apostles were before the start of the church. In the church, the ethnic, gender and socioeconomic barriers were torn down. I go...

@DickSaban1 @Peacemaker811 @PubliusJosephus Qualifications are based on character, not one’s sex, skin color, whether they are married or not or their social status. You are reading into the requirements what you were brought up to believe. Not sur...

@Mockinglogos @DBrimzim @smashbaals It’s an idiom for monogomy. The same thing is said about deacons where we have women mentioned and Phoebe is a deaconness. If it means must be married, then Paul is disqualified given he is single and he wishes e...

@Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals I explained that in the post I linked. Was Paul not an overseer himself? Surely he was. Yet he was single and advocated for singleness (1 Cor 7:7). Therefore, if it doesn’t require marriage (but means faithful if marrie...

@mattkeegan @NCDebbieDixon The text cannot require marriage because Paul, an Apo

@PastorObscure @William_E_Wolfe @G3Conference Not sure how you are defining your terms, but here’s the way I’m using them: ⎯ feminism/Matriarchy: female priority —masculinism/Patriarchy: male priority —egalitarianism: merit based, skills and qualific...

@AmericanAccolon @BonifaceOption History of the mainline churches is not what determines proper interpretation on these matters. However, the Waldensians (late 12th century) believed in Salvation by Faith alone (pre Luther) and believed in the pries...

@VeiledGlory I’m a man and I quote Gal 3:26-29 to show this. And I know hermene

@wgrapperhaus Where does Jesus command that women should not teach, pastor or ov

@The_Lilion @HeidiSchlumpf I don’t know what this picture is referring to or pro

@BrotherBoaz @ThomasReeseSJ @NCRonline @HeidiSchlumpf @dearmisskate Thanks for interacting and challenging me on this. The only person actually called a shepherd is Jesus and only two people self identify as elders: Peter and John. No one else is s...

@ThomasReeseSJ @NCRonline @HeidiSchlumpf @dearmisskate Hmm…but scripture says we are ALL priests (1 Pet 2:5,9), so the idea that women who are already priests can’t become priests is a non-issue. Rather, the real question is whether someone can serv...

@PastorMark What? Church was in someone’s home and they traveled to get there.

@DeeGoingsGirl There’s only two who are listed as elders in the New Testament: P

@ryanvisconti I came across the following on the requirements of pastors and found it quite enlightening as well. "Such requirements disqualify from service not only women, but also all men who are single; all men married but childless; all men marr...

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@PastorTSheppard @Jgrey2003 @pastordmack Gen 3:16 is not a command for Adam to rule over Eve. If it was, why did God say it to Eve? "To the woman He said..." - The word "rule" is in the imperfect. It could be considered future tense. God is sayin...

@JackSpa31473121 On what basis are you making these allegations about me? Because we disagree? I’m a conservative…what is this about New World Order? What is a ‘libtard’? That the idea that a woman can teach or act in the role of a pastor/elder i...

@PastorTSheppard @Jgrey2003 @pastordmack You are making statements and not givin

@PastorTSheppard @Jgrey2003 @pastordmack Sorry, where does scripture COMMAND wom

@William_E_Wolfe The law amendment is divisive. How is he shaming and slanderin

@PastorTSheppard @Jgrey2003 @pastordmack Where is the law in the Bible that women were to be “completely silent” in the congregation? It doesn’t say “women should not lead” but “women should remain silent” and the reason that speaking in the assembl...

@megbasham It is fine for those who believe the pastorate should be males to keep on doing what they are doing. But they shouldn’t be kicking out other churches that disagree with their views on this. Why not? Because it’s not a primary matter of ...

@William_E_Wolfe The problem is that the SBC should never have made restricting leadership to males a statement of faith. Where is a qualified and gifted woman teaching true doctrine or pastoring called a sin in any list of sins? Or is it just a si...

@trulyheisrisen @ortrails @goteamcarr Are you a pastor by chance?

@CivicNatalist @jchasedavis Right, not everyone is a leader. There is considerable variation in complementarian circles. The point being that dividing churches because women occupy a pastoral or elder or overseer role harms the body of Christ. It ...

@Jeffersonian77 @TheMuppetPastor @ROBERTFERDINA14 @onegospel2021 No, that was Paul correcting something the Corinthians wrote in their letter to him. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): “What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men...

@Jgrey2003 @PastorTSheppard @pastordmack Why do you think it is wrong? Paul is responding to the letter from the Corinthians (1 Cor 7:1). The statement in 1 Cor 14:34-35 contradicts the inclusivity of the rest of the chapter (see v31). The referen...

@CovenantReform2 @SophieLuther83 @GingerSnapKid The apostles were selected before the start of the church. Maybe Jesus had some other reason why He chose 12 Jewish males...remember, there were 12 sons of Jacob, 12 tribes of Israel? Yet just as we d...

@aleciajonesnow @btgolz @goteamcarr An Apostle is an overseer by definition. Th

@btgolz @aleciajonesnow @goteamcarr Really?! Only two people call themselves el

@aleciajonesnow @btgolz @goteamcarr And have multiple children too, right? Yet Paul who was an overseer and wrote this requirement is single and has no kids. And to boot says he wishes everyone was as he is—single (1 Cor 7:7)! Paul is most definit...

@WolfePack_Dad @StefonNapier @megbasham @pastordmack Yep, my church. https://t.c

@btgolz @aleciajonesnow @goteamcarr Women being pastors is never listed in any l

@Christocentrism Isn't that what an overseer means? Someone who oversees the te

@DoomguyN7 @pastordmack People keep using that verse....I do not think it means

@TheMuppetPastor FYI⎯people are misconstruing 1 Tim 2:11-15. Take another look.

@PastorTSheppard @pastordmack Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians (ref 1 Cor 7:1) and refuting their silencing of women. Paul says that those who do not recognize that the things which he writes are the Lord's commandment should be ...

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@BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor I have been working on some reasons why the apostles selected only men for this role in the early church. Here are some of my thoughts at this point. Reasons Why They Likely Chose Only Men: 1. Cultural Norms: The norms ...