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@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Let's test this theory out, shall we?

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Let's test this theory out, shall we? Here's a command: stop suppressing women. I'm a man. I'm an elder. Will you listen? Or are you just not doing what

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Where does the great commission exclude women from obeying all the commands Christ gave His apostles? Also⎯suggesting someone has to communicate without speaking was a way to see what your problem is with women. Then lik...

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Where does the great commission exclude women from obeying all the commands Christ gave His apostles? Also⎯suggesting someone has to communicate without speaking was a way

@jeanlesar @smashbaals It sounds like in your church, women are not trained to b

@jeanlesar @smashbaals It sounds like in your church, women are not trained to be good theologians and teachers. How is that working out? It also seems you don't have much exposure to women outside

@ronhenzel Why on earth does Paul need a generic woman when he could just make t

@ronhenzel Why on earth does Paul need a generic woman when he could just make the grammar simple and say "women will be saved through childbearing if they continue..."?

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the fact of women leading in scripture (albeit not as m...

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the f

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Let me guess…you want women to learn but not use tha

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Let me guess…you want women to learn but not use that knowledge to benefit others? What if they didn’t move their lips but used sign language instead? Or would you be ok

@WeakGameForever @NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii But Paul says "a woman" not "all women." And then this would also mean you are saying "All women will be saved through childbearing if all women continue in faith..." Which makes one wonder how men are sav...

@WeakGameForever @NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii But Paul says "a woman" not "all women." And then this would also mean you are saying "All women will be saved through childbearing if all women continue in

@WWUTTcom So what I hear you saying is that you don’t want to bother looking more carefully at this text because its just obvious to you that God forbids someone with a sex they were born with from teaching men. This despite the fact that I know man...

@WWUTTcom So what I hear you saying is that you don’t want to bother looking more carefully at this text because its just obvious to you that God forbids someone with a sex they were born with from te

@ZacharyGarris Male primacy is a problem needlessly dividing churches, relegatin

@ZacharyGarris Male primacy is a problem needlessly dividing churches, relegating women to second class status. It’s a poor witness but it is also not Biblical.

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and make all the decisions? Doesn’t it occur to you th...

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and m

@j_bambrick @MikeWingerii But Mike didn’t represent the best egalitarian arguments. Further, he doesn’t know what the “she” and “they” of verse 15 actually refer to. At least he acknowledges that women are to learn and not fundamentally defective, ...

@j_bambrick @MikeWingerii But Mike didn’t represent the best egalitarian arguments. Further, he doesn’t know what the “she” and “they” of verse 15 actually refer to. At least he acknowledges that wo

@smashbaals First, the reason only women meet is because you told them males can

@smashbaals First, the reason only women meet is because you told them males can’t be present when a woman is teaching. Second, false teaching spreads from a lack of discernment which affects men as

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word for woman is the same as wife and man the same as ...

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word

@DST_QA I've believed this since around 2009 but didn't make it a big issue until the last 5 years. I was in a complementarian church (Calvary Chapel), then non-denom (egalitarian), then Baptist (mostly complementarian but shifting). In the Baptist...

@DST_QA I've believed this since around 2009 but didn't make it a big issue until the last 5 years. I was in a complementarian church (Calvary Chapel), then non-denom (egalitarian), then Baptist (mos

@ronhenzel What does "women generically" mean? Womanhood? Womanhood is to be s

@ronhenzel What does "women generically" mean? Womanhood? Womanhood is to be silent and not teach?

@ronhenzel However, this is the case of a noun being repeated twice, not a prono

@ronhenzel However, this is the case of a noun being repeated twice, not a pronoun; one anarthrous and one arthrous. And we have two women in this case: Eve and an unknown unnamed woman. How would P

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

In 1 Tim 2:15, who are the “she” and the “they” referring to? Options: 1. A generic woman / all women 2. Eve / all women 3. Women* / all women 4. A specific woman / her and her husband 5. Something else? *Note: some translations change the singula...

In 1 Tim 2:15, who are the “she” and the “they” referring to? Options: 1. A generic woman / all women 2. Eve / all women 3. Women* / all women 4. A specific woman / her and her husband 5. Something

1 Tim 2:15 question

@ymmotrojam Need I remind you that 1 Cor 14:34-35 comes after 1 Cor 11:5? If your interpretation is correct, Paul would have to say in chapter 11 that the women were doing something that they weren’t supposed to because it assumes they were doing ...

@ymmotrojam Need I remind you that 1 Cor 14:34-35 comes *after* 1 Cor 11:5? If your interpretation is correct, Paul would have to say in chapter 11 that the women were doing something that they weren

1 Cor 11:5 1 Cor 14:34-35 question

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

Here’s how 1 Tim 2:10-15 works syntactically and contextually⎯ Paul is not referring to a typical woman or women in general, but instructing Timothy on how to deal with a specific unnamed deceived woman who⎯like her prototype "Eve"⎯is handing the "a...

Here’s how 1 Tim 2:10-15 works syntactically and contextually⎯ Paul is not referring to a typical woman or women in general, but instructing Timothy on how to deal with a specific unnamed deceived wo

1 Tim 2:10-15 commentary

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Except for si

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Except for single women who Paul said shouldn’t seek to get married (1 Cor 7). Are they left lost and in danger of deception because

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So Paul is describing sal

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So Paul is describing salvation for women only? Since when is there a means of salvation for women different from men?

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom. I'm not making this up. I'm just describing the grammar. A particular deceived woman is simply noting that Paul moves from plural "all women" to "a woman/wife" and in v14 says...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom. I'm not making this up. I'm just describing the grammar. A particular deceived woman is simply noting that Paul moves from pl

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@Deigratia1985 @SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii I look forward to seeing whatever evidence you have. I’d also like to know what personal benefit you think I gain by being attacked all day long defending the right of women to be tr...

@Deigratia1985 @SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii I look forward to seeing whatever evidence you have. I’d also like to know what personal benefit you think I gain by being attacked

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So “she (singular)” and “they (plural)” are referring to the same group? To individual typical women in the church? Where does Paul ever use the plural to refer to individuals? Most single/bar...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So “she (singular)” and “they (plural)” are referring to the same group? To individual typical women in the church? Where does Paul ever use th

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastors, but they weren’t the mainstream. Luther disagr...

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastor

@ymmotrojam It sounds like in this view, Paul is speaking to the women who are objecting to being silenced. It's as if he is saying to them: "If you find this hard to accept, consider this⎯did the word of God originate with you? Or has it come to y...

@ymmotrojam It sounds like in this view, Paul is speaking to the women who are objecting to being silenced. It's as if he is saying to them: "If you find this hard to accept, consider this⎯did the wo

@ymmotrojam So what you think that Paul is saying is that those women who believ

@ymmotrojam So what you think that Paul is saying is that those women who believe they should be able to speak as God leads should be ignored because they are females and they are usurping the primacy

@ich1ban123456 @psalm119164 @ymmotrojam In the context of husbands and wives being in a sort of master-slave relationship, women being treated like property, there was a common issue here that Paul was addressing in his corrective. The wives were ob...

@ich1ban123456 @psalm119164 @ymmotrojam In the context of husbands and wives being in a sort of master-slave relationship, women being treated like property, there was a common issue here that Paul wa

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I already explained that I just find it ironic that if the position of elder must be male that the word itself is feminine. I didn't say that elders must be women. You are deceptive in how you are framing what I said and ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I already explained that I just find it ironic that if the position of elder must be male that the word itself is feminine. I didn't say that elders must be women. You are

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam My point is that even in cases where there is actually a male pronoun, we use context to understand that it includes all people. This means if you are going to exclude and restrict women from something and make it a sin if...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam My point is that even in cases where there is actually a male pronoun, we use context to understand that it includes all people. This means if you are going to exclude and

@psalm119164 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam This is not about encouraging false teaching or false prophecy! After all, that is precisely what Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to stop. A godly woman teaching true doctrine to women to groups including men is...

@psalm119164 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam This is not about encouraging false teaching or false prophecy! After all, that is precisely what Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to stop. A godly woman teaching

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam 1 Tim 2:11 doesn't say women cannot be pastors. Titus 1 uses generic pronouns like τις (tis⎯anyone, someone), same for 1 Tim 3. Headship has nothing to do with authority but source relationships. You have been thoroughly...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam 1 Tim 2:11 doesn't say women cannot be pastors. Titus 1 uses generic pronouns like τις (tis⎯anyone, someone), same for 1 Tim 3. Headship has nothing to do with authority b

1 Tim 2:11 debate

@ymmotrojam If you think I’m disobeying Paul then all you have to do is ignore m

@ymmotrojam If you think I’m disobeying Paul then all you have to do is ignore me and the women speaking.

@ymmotrojam You completely ignore 1 Cor 7:1 in that Paul is responding to things they wrote in their letter but there are no quotes in the Greek. You act like quoting from them is not even a possibility. Why? Paul is warning those that forbid peop...

@ymmotrojam You completely ignore 1 Cor 7:1 in that Paul is responding to things they wrote in their letter but there are no quotes in the Greek. You act like quoting from them is not even a possibil

1 Cor 7:1 debate

@ZacharyGarris @JohnnyABenson I am an egalitarian. I believe in mutual submission one to another in the body of Christ (which means wives to husbands and husbands to wives, congregants to pastors and pastors to congregants). Women are not restricte...

@ZacharyGarris @JohnnyABenson I am an egalitarian. I believe in mutual submission one to another in the body of Christ (which means wives to husbands and husbands to wives, congregants to pastors and

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Where do we find any statement of women speaking in church or teaching from the pulpit listed as a SIN? The word SIN is never used. If you think that sin is defined by disobeying a command, then consider the following comm...

@ronhenzel @ZacharyGarris Where do we find any statement of women speaking in church or teaching from the pulpit listed as a SIN? The word SIN is never used. If you think that sin is defined by diso

@ymmotrojam The Amplified Bible says that anyone who doesn’t recognize the Lord’s commandments (throughout chapter 14) is to be disregarded and not recognized. The ISV says "he should be ignored." Those who refuse to acknowledge that it is the comm...

@ymmotrojam The Amplified Bible says that anyone who doesn’t recognize the Lord’s commandments (throughout chapter 14) is to be disregarded and not recognized. The ISV says "he should be ignored." T

1 Cor 14:34 1 Tim 2:11 1 Tim 3:15 general

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the faith with a clear conscience, etc)⎯it also doesn't ...

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the fa

@ymmotrojam Again, you are making up this whole idea of formal/informal, and it only causes confusion, especially when you tie it to sin. Further, Paul's instruction was actually NOT to cover one's head. That includes women. Except if a woman is m...

@ymmotrojam Again, you are making up this whole idea of formal/informal, and it only causes confusion, especially when you tie it to sin. Further, Paul's instruction was actually NOT to cover one's h

@ymmotrojam This makes this prohibition very confusing. If you have a gathering that is studying scripture and communing together and women can speak and share, but in the case of a full gathering they have to be silent or otherwise be in rebellion ...

@ymmotrojam This makes this prohibition very confusing. If you have a gathering that is studying scripture and communing together and women can speak and share, but in the case of a full gathering th

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 If a church goes egalitarian in rebellion to what they think is the clear teaching of the text, this spells problems. I agree with that. But that is not what I and my church are doing. We don’t believe that these scriptu...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 If a church goes egalitarian in rebellion to what they think is the clear teaching of the text, this spells problems. I agree with that. But that is not what I and my chur

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they value males more highly than females. You say it’s ju...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they valu

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Balance does not equate to only males speaking. Many churches today only have the pastor and maybe one other person speaking, so what you are saying to restrict women from speaking from the front doesn't make much differen...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Balance does not equate to only males speaking. Many churches today only have the pastor and maybe one other person speaking, so what you are saying to restrict women from

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Singing is just speaking put to music. If she cannot speak then she cannot sing. That would be taking away the glory of a man. In church only males can have God’s glory. Women should be sitting silently and listening to the...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Singing is just speaking put to music. If she cannot speak then she cannot sing. That would be taking away the glory of a man. In church only males can have God’s glory. Wom

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So women cannot speak or sing then? You said their r

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So women cannot speak or sing then? You said their role in church was to be silent.

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone which is what the woman in Ephesus was doing. I'm ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone w

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam If that is the case, why isn't church just for comple

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam If that is the case, why isn't church just for complementarian men and the rest of us can meet separately and call it a gathering so that the women can participate like the

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So all doesn't mean all? It doesn't even mean all ki

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So all doesn't mean all? It doesn't even mean all kinds? It just means all males? 1 Cor 11:5 presumes women are praying and prophesying in church, but you believe that it

1 Cor 11:5 debate

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam So they can teach the Bible to children and adult wom

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam So they can teach the Bible to children and adult women, but as soon as the boy turns from 17 to 18, it's a sin?

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam What do you mean Ch 11 is not speaking about in the church? Where are they praying and prophesying? Outside the front door? In the prayer room? To themselves? So, according to your view of Ch 14, women can speak when p...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam What do you mean Ch 11 is not speaking about in the church? Where are they praying and prophesying? Outside the front door? In the prayer room? To themselves? So, accor