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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-10

@AverageSc0t @TheologySteve @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio I think this is hard for a man with authority over women to understand. Or perhaps functionally you act in a very egalitarian way 98% of the time and only pull your trump card to expedite dec...

@AverageSc0t @TheologySteve @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio I think this is hard for a man with authority over women to understand. Or perhaps functionally you act in a very egalitarian way 98% of the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-10

@MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio Complementarian is a bit deceiving because as an E

@MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio Complementarian is a bit deceiving because as an Egalitarian I also agree my wife and I complement each other. I just don’t think there are gender roles with respect to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-10

@Alex7Shiro To be fair he actually believes that God’s design is for him to make sure his wife does things right or else he is failing as a husband. He believes he is emulating God’s order of authority. Interestingly, people don’t obey God and I’m ...

@Alex7Shiro To be fair he actually believes that God’s design is for him to make sure his wife does things right or else he is failing as a husband. He believes he is emulating God’s order of authori

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife submits to the husband. The husband

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife submits to the husband. The husband submits to the wife. Neither is the authority over the other (except when it comes to their bodies related to sex).

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Sarah's calling Abraham lord is similar to how we use the term "sir" or "mister" today. The husband and the wife are the leaders of the home and work together as a team. The Biblical statement of the husband as th...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Sarah's calling Abraham lord is similar to how we use the term "sir" or "mister" today. The husband and the wife are the leaders of the home and work together as a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The issue is his misunderstanding of what the

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The issue is his misunderstanding of what the apostle Paul means by "head" and his complete missing the mark on mutual subjection and servant leadership.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT If the problem was his, why doesn't he think

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT If the problem was his, why doesn't he think that picking up the broom and leading by example, and inviting the kids to participate isn't the solution?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl If I was your boss and I commanded you to obey me, your complete obedience to me would certainly make things work. The measure of Biblical is not simply what works. But this is not how Jesus wants our relationship...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl If I was your boss and I commanded you to obey me, your complete obedience to me would certainly make things work. The measure of Biblical is not simply what works.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-08

@smashbaals Christ will rule at the second advent. He will reign on the throne of David from Jerusalem. In the mean time, "…I [Paul] urge that requests, prayers, intercession, and thanksgiving be made in behalf of all people, for kings and all who ...

@smashbaals Christ will rule at the second advent. He will reign on the throne of David from Jerusalem. In the mean time, "…I [Paul] urge that requests, prayers, intercession, and thanksgiving be ma

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, P

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder The driving force behind egalitarianism is not the culture but “for

@dougponder The driving force behind egalitarianism is not the culture but “for you are all sons” (Gal 3:26). If all sons—*now* (present active)—and all includes women and men, then who are you to di

Gal 3:26 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) ⎯ Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or w

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris This passage is such a strong corrective of the complementarian position because if women are also sons then why do they treat them as though they are not going to rule and reign with Christ one day? Are they ...

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris This passage is such a strong corrective of the complementarian position because if women are also sons then why do they treat them as though they are not going

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted with believe this passage is only about salvation. It doesn’t have anything to do with there here and now and the famil

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-05

@DriverXag @sparkobuzzer @ZacharyGarris Gal 3:26 is not dealing with physical land, but the inheritance given to Jesus. It’s about salvation and everything else. This includes the church. There’s nothing passed from male to male in terms of leader...

@DriverXag @sparkobuzzer @ZacharyGarris Gal 3:26 is not dealing with physical land, but the inheritance given to Jesus. It’s about salvation and everything else. This includes the church. There’s n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-05

@ronhenzel Are you saying that the PCA always restricted leadership to men in order to be in ecclesial fellowship? This should be a matter of conscience and ought to be removed from any requirements. What if the PCA required meeting on Saturday and...

@ronhenzel Are you saying that the PCA always restricted leadership to men in order to be in ecclesial fellowship? This should be a matter of conscience and ought to be removed from any requirements.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-05

@ronhenzel The pre-Luther Waldensiens understood that women could be leaders, so this isn’t new. The problem is that this is a secondary issue, and so one church operating with male only leadership should be able to remain in fellowship with another...

@ronhenzel The pre-Luther Waldensiens understood that women could be leaders, so this isn’t new. The problem is that this is a secondary issue, and so one church operating with male only leadership s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris I have your book—do you want me to refute it here? There is no where that says teaching men is a sin. That is not stated in 1 Tim 2:12 nor anywhere else. Teaching itself is not authoritative, the Word of God is the authority. The i...

@ZacharyGarris I have your book—do you want me to refute it here? There is no where that says teaching men is a sin. That is not stated in 1 Tim 2:12 nor anywhere else. Teaching itself is not autho

1 Tim 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris But an unrepentant, willful lifestyle of sin means you are outside of the faith. Again, where—and you must provide this—is a woman speaking, teaching, leading, overseeing, pastoring EVER stated to be a sin or listed in any list of sin...

@ZacharyGarris But an unrepentant, willful lifestyle of sin means you are outside of the faith. Again, where—and you must provide this—is a woman speaking, teaching, leading, overseeing, pastoring EV

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris Let me know what creed says that women cannot occupy positions of leadership or serve as a pastor or preach or teach truth. Next, you can take a look at any list of sin in scripture and you won’t find women speaking, teaching, leading...

@ZacharyGarris Let me know what creed says that women cannot occupy positions of leadership or serve as a pastor or preach or teach truth. Next, you can take a look at any list of sin in scripture an

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris Firstly, I absolutely do not deny the authority of the Bible! Be

@ZacharyGarris Firstly, I absolutely do not deny the authority of the Bible! Because you disagree with me does not give you a right to claim I deny the Bible’s authority. Do you consider me in sin?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

RT @ryanschatz: @VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places a

RT @ryanschatz: @VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places authority structures in the home and church, but that’s not…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places authority structures in the home and church, but that’s not at all what He is doing. Leadership does not imply authority. Authority is in the Word, not the person. Leadership is carryi...

@VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places authority structures in the home and church, but that’s not at all what He is doing. Leadership does not imply authority. Authority is

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Where is gender role in the text? If its ordained by God, role should be there as that's what everyone thinks is so important. Primacy means that it's the males that must do all the leading, preaching, judging doctrine, overs...

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Where is gender role in the text? If its ordained by God, role should be there as that's what everyone thinks is so important. Primacy means that it's the males that must do a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'authentein' a man/husband"⎯what this is referring to ...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'aut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Why use the word hea

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Why use the word head? The husband loves and leads. Yes, but does this mean the wife doesn’t love? Clearly not. The same reason why she

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Leading is possible but this doesn’t mean authority over or the boss of or the final decision maker. Jesus says the greatest leader is the greatest slave. Ideally both lead in an equal partnership according ...

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Leading is possible but this doesn’t mean authority over or the boss of or the final decision maker. Jesus says the greatest leader is the greatest slave. Id

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reason Paul refers to the creation order is not becaus...

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reas

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve This is actually the one instance where authority over the spouse is even mentioned! (I know of no other reference) "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise the...

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve This is actually the one instance where authority over the spouse is even mentioned! (I know of no other reference) "The wife does not have authority over he

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women *necessarily.* I have been part of several complementarian churches and they typically just reserved the lead pastoral role for a...

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women *necessarily.* I have been part of several complementarian churches and they ty

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@smashbaals Men can literally: - Engage in unprotected sex, often avoiding its consequences - Consume porn, fueling the objectification of women - Claim authority over women, yet shirk responsibility for societal outcomes And when called to the car...

@smashbaals Men can literally: - Engage in unprotected sex, often avoiding its consequences - Consume porn, fueling the objectification of women - Claim authority over women, yet shirk responsibility

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @IvanIvez440026 @Brian_Sauve Interesting take. I sense you are not advocating for blind authority to obedience, but simply using healthy sexual (marital) relationships to show how the man’s strength if harnessed appropriately is exactl...

@lastadolphin @IvanIvez440026 @Brian_Sauve Interesting take. I sense you are not advocating for blind authority to obedience, but simply using healthy sexual (marital) relationships to show how the m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve In a relationship, the husband and wi

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve In a relationship, the husband and wife lead; children follow.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @SarahHOC @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve By reading in context and not ju

@ThandaM2 @SarahHOC @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve By reading in context and not just blindly taking the English word in your own context, you will see that Paul is referring to source and origin, not au

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve If you were in danger and your 8 year old daughter ye

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve If you were in danger and your 8 year old daughter yells "stay back," would you listen? Influence and authority are two different things.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I actually don't think this, but many complementarians see this as the role of the "head" of the marriage and church. For context, I am an engineer and both lead and serve an individual contributor role on projects at a...

@ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I actually don't think this, but many complementarians see this as the role of the "head" of the marriage and church. For context, I am an engineer and both lead and ser

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the fact of women leading in scripture (albeit not as m...

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn't to take authority over your wife and make her o...

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Interesting. I think men need to lead more, but I don't think that means they need to be in authority over their wives and break every tie in decision making. Egalitarianism is not Matriarchy; it is equality, mutuality an...

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Interesting. I think men need to lead more, but I don't think that means they need to be in authority over their wives and break every tie in decision making. Egalitariani

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@StothersRyan @GodandQountry Where are you getting authority from? I think you are thinking that submission means unquestioning allegiance or obedience to, but this is not what is going on in Eph 5:21. Biblically, it means willingly "standing under...

@StothersRyan @GodandQountry Where are you getting authority from? I think you are thinking that submission means unquestioning allegiance or obedience to, but this is not what is going on in Eph 5:2

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but source. The only place authority between the husban...

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but so

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I disagreed with him on Calvinism, I would not be allo...

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I di

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Wh

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Where is the word role even in the text? Why would a woman being a co-leader of her home with her husband—notice, both ar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@DST_QA I don't make this a "hill to die on" as I have attended complementarian churches and am able to work within their restrictions. However, I find that most comp churches won't allow those who are convinced egalitarians into leadership, so it h...

@DST_QA I don't make this a "hill to die on" as I have attended complementarian churches and am able to work within their restrictions. However, I find that most comp churches won't allow those who a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastors, but they weren’t the mainstream. Luther disagr...

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastor

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

I’m meeting people who feel like gender roles are connected to the gospel and that the husband having authority over the wife in a marriage demonstrates God’s order to the world. I think this is a misunderstanding of the scriptures. The following m...

I’m meeting people who feel like gender roles are connected to the gospel and that the husband having authority over the wife in a marriage demonstrates God’s order to the world. I think this is a mi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Can you give me an idea of how this authority plays out for you? - She wants another child, you don’t. You talk about it, but still disagree. What do you do? - She does NOT want another child, you DO. You ...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Can you give me an idea of how this authority plays out for you? - She wants another child, you don’t. You talk about it, but still disagree. What do you do

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 What authority do YOU have that you ar

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 What authority do YOU have that you are to use over your wife? (assuming you have one)

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

RT @ryanschatz: @Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, rig

RT @ryanschatz: @Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, right? Then by the authority vested in me because of my famil…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, right? Then by the

@Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, right? Then by the authority vested in me because of my family jewels, I proclaim that my wife and I are equals in our marriage. There…fi

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